Are roids really that bad for your health?

listen to this user, a bunch of bros buying illegal drugs are the true medical masters

>those side effects
Anybody who’s been on this board more than a day has seen a million threads complaining about that shit posted by dyels who have low test.

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>Semen splattered sign
Who thought that was a good design?

Doctors know absolutely nothing about recreational steroid use.

no

>hurrr doctor stupid kno nothing lol
Me smart me figure out sterod recipe to get big strong man

Nah bro juiceheads do not have more pharmaceutical knowledge and skills to manage drug treatment than a doctor would sorry.

>doctor has no experience with AAS
>athlete who’s been on AAS for years
Which one has the knowledge you seek?

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If a doctor spent 10 minutes devising a recreational steroid treatment plan for bodybuilders it would be significantly safer than anything a roidmonkey comes up with and still not even close to 100% safe.

depends, do you actually fucking care?

God I wanna sniff that seat

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does a black girls brapper smell like coco butter?

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Look, just because you use the term roidmonkey, doesn’t mean you’ve made your point. Doctors aren’t any smarter than you or me, they have to look shit up in books or online every time they see a patient. There have been very few studies done on recreational steroid use and so the most knowledgeable sources are guys who have been on gear for years. No one has ever died from steroid use, it’s always some narcotic or pre existing health problem.

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I went to see an endocrinologist about a month ago because I was thinking about doing my first cycle around November and wanted to get blood work done beforehand to see if everything is ok

I mean, I've been working out for years now, mixing calisthenics with weightlifting and eating like a mofo without a grain of sugar, no coffee, regulated carbs, taking every kind of supplement available on the market, vitamins, creatine, "useless shit" like ZMA and Glutamine, you name it I'll take it religiously.

And I was never really able to make good gains

Turns out I'm a low test faggot, my total T was 444,72 ng/dL

At 22 years of age! 20 motherfucking 2 years old

Not only that but my estradiol was 45 pg/mL, test result said that normal levels for men around my age were up to 47 pg/mL so I was basically nearing the normal limit for estrogen

Doctor said it was completely fine, he pulled a Scooby on me and said that gains take years and that I was already looking good for my age, he said there was nothing he could do for me.

I'm a skinny faggot btw, I don't even look like I lift with a shirt on, 1,80m @ 74kg. Lifts with bar weight included: B:75kg 5x5, OHP:50kg 5x5, S:60kg 5x5 (knee injury).

Honestly, I agree with those guys, doctors don't seem to know shit about bodybuilding...

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If he ass smelled like straight shit I would jizz on the spot

this might come as a surprise to you but low test is not the reason your progress sucks. infact it barely comes into play in newer lifters. anybody can get to 1/2/3/4 in a reasonable timeframe no matter how low your test is. Hell even females can reach 3pl8 squat and 4pl8 DL so what are we even talking about here ? Your hormone levels have nothing to do with the fact you have been slacking off.

I have done extensive research on the topic and have concluded that they are as bad for you as sugar and alcohol.

And seeing as I abstain from sugar and alcohol because of the health detriments...

3 plate squat and 4 plate dead is top tier female athlete tier.

Roids aren’t that bad for temporary, short term use if you research what you’re doing, are careful about getting yourself tested, and know when to stop. If you’re really worried about what could happen I’d say to just not bother with them and play it safe. Maybe try seeing an endocrinologist and get their opinion on it. In some cases doctors will agree it’s worth it to deal with the potential side effects like in the case of a fat fuck being given test to help him lose weight, because a year of test use with doctor supervision is better than dying at 45 because he’s a fatass.

>Thirty years have a 30% increase
It's more of a year isnt that big a deal, but 10 years is almost a guarantee of health issues. Difference between Arnold and some dude who just does a light cycle for a year.

>having a heart that can get enlarged and fail is a pre-existing health problem
>having a brain that can become suicidal is a pre-existing health problem
>having a body that can grow tumors is a pre-existing health problem
Lol no one has ever died from taking steroids right

Yeah, but I personally feel like majority of low test posters tend to be the type of guys who just started exercise and diet and sports in general and are still recovering from years of treating their body poorly, although I may be biased as I assume I'm mid-high test as I've never suffered from any symptoms of low test and have been active all my life.

>No one has ever died from steroid use
That's a lie
medium.com/@anthonyroberts/study-professional-bodybuilders-have-34-higher-death-rate-afa86a49786c
That's a 34% increase over the average fatfuck American btw.

Before I had to remove a few centimeters from my right patella I was able to squat 3pl8 pretty easily.
Nowadays I'm having to adapt, it's only been a month since I started working out legs again, for that reason, I consider my 1pl8 squats pretty good.

And I don't know man, I've been working out non stop for a year and a half now, with total gym experience of around 4 years, and never in those periods did I look any different or lifted any more weights than I do today. Might be schizophrenia but I feel as if I'm being capped by my low test.

Now this is what I call a cope.

Don’t say “bar included.” We know it’s included...it’s always been included. It’s inferred, implied, inherent. Some cunt started trolling dyels on here and the idea that there was even an argument was born.

Most roids are probably bad for you regardless of the dose. Except for gh and testosterone, dont abuse it and youre golden m8.

whats the worst that could happen if I took anavar for a month?

>mensjournal.com/food-drink/heres-what-steroids-actually-do-your-body/

My sister can do that. Shes 6'3 210, not sure about female bf% but she has a 6 pack.

How large is her penis?

i had 2 doctors who had never heard of creatine. no bullshit.

It says more about him than anything else really, nobody lifts for years and says "bar included", this is babbys 4th time in the gym type stuff.

>NOOOOOO YOU CANT DO STEROIDS MY DOCTOR TOLD ME THAT ITS BAD FOR YOUR LIVER AND ITS CHEATING

The same Arnold who's alive and well after using gear for 50+ years? Bad example.

Dude, that's a study on pro bodybuilders. They take A LOT more than your average gym rat does. Plus, the cause of death wasn't listed for any of them. For all we know they could have been killed by other substances, like Rich Piana was. Party drugs are big in the bodybuilding scene since they don't drink as much.

Also, the the average fatfuck American has a life expectancy of 79 years, which isn't too bad.

Hasn't he had heart attacks and open heart surgery?

People really don't understand 'doctors'
They think all doctors are created equal, that one doctor will know as much about anything as another doctor. The truth is that GPs don't know FUCK, they don't know shit about fucking anything. If you are speaking to a GP about anything but getting a referral to a specialist you might as well be talking to a monkey.
Specialists only know their specialized area, and some don't know what the fuck they are talking about when it comes to particular aspects or applications of that filed.
For example, most endocrinologist will not know a THING about performance enhancement through usage of hormones. Why is this the case? Because most endos are specialized in dealing with diabetics as that is the largest applicable subject within the field. Most endos are diabetes specialists more than anything else. Trannies have the same problem when looking for an endo, none of them have a clue about people who wish to medically alter their sex hormones, they only know how to regulate SEVERELY ABNORMAL hormones.
So if you go to an endo and say 'hey I think I am low test and I am not making gains'. They will do a blood test you will likely be inside of the NORMAL range and they will not do anything, but the normal range for test is huge and the difference between the low end and the high end is night and day for a lifter or athlete. Okay, understand that? You can be at like 300 and they will NEVER give you TRT...even though to be a performer you need to be in the 900+ range. People talk about genetics like it is some immovable object, but what genes determine pragmatically is hormonal expression...which can be medically altered. The best thing you can do for yourself is tell an endo that you are going to do steroids and that you want them to monitor your health during your cycles. Speak frankly to them and tell them to understand that you are not content with being at the low end of your testosterone range

Not even in food?

>Without testosterone your body will literally stop functioning properly.

Yes, but you don't need to supplement it if your endocrine system functions normally.

yes considering you aren't going to have access to pharmaceutical grade but piss oil farmed by in a pajeet basement

nice bait

It’s not though. It’s definitely impressive, but not top tier. I’ve met several over my years of lifting, and no they weren’t roiding so I’ll stop that cope right there.

Yes but nowhere near as bad as legal stuff like alcohol or tobacco. It's actually kind of ridiculous how overplayed the liver damage angle is given that the average adult is wrecking their organs with fast foods and alcohol.

neither do most gym bros and random dickheads on the internet so what's your point mate

Absolutely based and redpilled, my fucking gp didn't even want to prescribe me a specialized visit to and endo when I told her my libido was low for a 22yo and she said "no user, you look good" god fucking damn I know I look good, I've been lifting for 5 years, I don't drink or smoke, train religiously, it's obvious that I will result in the normal range of test but you probably don't even know what the HPG is

How did you do this “extensive research” also post your proof or shit the fuck up

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