Are personal trainers worth it? What are you experience so far with them? Also girl vs bro trainers...

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I worked as a personal trainer and I wouldn't let any of my co-workers train me.

Personal trainer of 3 years here.
Most pt's will be dumb kids who only started this because it 'looks cool' on social media.
If you find a trainer who honestly loves the subject and is truly passionate about helping people improve themselves then it will be a life changing investment.
A good way to spot these types of trainers is to ask them fitness related questions and see how they respond.
If they just give a superficial scripted response then it's the bad kind, if they actually give you interesting geek tier info to actually help inform you because they aknowledged your interest then that's the guy you're looking for

If I'm being honest, I just want a qt fit girl to interact with me everyday...

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Then you can find a good looking girl but make sure she knows at least the basics so they don't injure you , I've seen some pt girls do some crazy stupid shit that would make papa jeff lose his hair if he saw them

Well fuck me. I'm going for my NASM cert test tomorrow. I study the fuck out of all sorts of new info, and I'm both not a kid and not much of a social media person. I'm doing it because I like to help people and if I can get paid by doing it, great. I'm also fed up with how often layoffs happen in my tech jobs and figure even this would be more stable, or at least a good supplementary income. Do I have a chance? I'm already something of a social butterfly in the gym and tend to compare notes about form and programming with the other regular members.

I'm also formerly obese and figure I could use that to help in my sales pitches. I figure fat clients would be more willing to listen and interact with someone who knows what they're going through.

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My experience with personal trainers is they try to keep things convoluted to make you dependant on them for direction in exercise.

>i want to limit my progress by hiring a girl trainer who makes me do instagram exercises like lunges and bicep curls at the same time
k it's your life

Haley Ryder

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Gotta learn about anatomy from somebody if you're gonna be a trainer, you know. Might as well learn it from someone whose knowledge is SUBARASHI!

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The gain I will make from having a respite from my loneliness will more than makeup for a few sub-optimal lunges.

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Pt guy here.
I can already see you're passionate about this, you're going to do great.
Keep your head held high and move forward with faith in and skills.
The first mistake every amateurs make is doubt themselves the moment a client says he thinks an exercise didn't make him feel how he thought it would or sth and they drop their spaghetti, so make sure you never do this and always reman the man in charge.
Good luck user, i know you will do great tomorrow

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A surprisingly good way to learn about anatomy is ironically enough by studying the way people have got fucked up and injured doing exercises.
You reverse engineer the movement to spot the exact cause of the fuck up and build your knowledge on a more technical ground rather than just absorbing raw information.
Also some greatly educational youtube channels I recommend if you're not already subscribed to them are athlean-x, jeff nippard and omarisuf(who's also a Jow Forumsizen)

Read stuff on marketing for your niche Two Brain Business and Jonathan Goodman are good resources.

I have a female trainer who helped me get rid of type 2 diabetes and lose to this day (weigh in day, I gotta send her a weigh in video too) 165lbs in a little under a year and a half time.
She has saved my life, taught me how to eat right and be a better person (health wise)
I also think it helps we’re near each other in age range, so it’s like peers. She holds me accountable for everything. There is too much to list that puts her above the rest (education/knowledge etc) and we’re still in my loss phase.
I can’t wait to see what more I can accomplish with her knowledge.
She cares too she just cares about helping people meet their goals.
She helped me get rid of a DISEASE.
Find a trainer that works for you and wants to help people. Some people do need the help/direction, like me, so I need a trainer/nutritionist

Thanks, PT user. I could definitely see that being a tricky stumbling spot for a new trainer. I imagine the way to deal with that properly would be to find out exactly how it made the client feel and figure out either what might have gone wrong or what else can be used instead, if for whatever reason they just don't respond to that type of exercise, or if it might be a sign of some kind of issue?

I think the main point about myself that I'll have to work around professionally is that I'm not shredded yet. I still have some of my old fat from when I was obese, although my body wears it much better than it used to because of the muscle I've built. So I don't look like what a lot of people automatically think of when they hear the words personal trainer, but I also know a lot of people can be intimidated by the idea of working with someone who is super shredded. So I might be able to use it to my advantage, maybe let people lower their natural guards a bit. That doesn't mean I'm not still leaning out and trying to get my 6-pack, of course. I look decent with clothes on anyway, so I don't imagine that'll get in the way too much for the time being. Although I also know being a PT nowadays means getting your Instagram and shit together as a promotional outlet. And people just want to see the 6-packs on there.

Honestly, I've been doing that with myself. When I was still running a novice LP I hurt my back pretty bad, but with my own research and some feedback from actually good trainers, I've learned a lot about how to strengthen the lower back, how important the strength of the glutes are, postural correction, etc, just from treating myself. Same thing again with my shoulder, as recently I've been having issues with my rotator cuff. In learning how to deal with that, I've come to better appreciate the importance of scapular retraction, not over-engaging your traps, and stuff like that. It's been a really good learning experience.

How do you not develop feeling for an angel like this though?

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And yes, I am VERY familiar with those channels. I use the two Jeffs as reference and advice constantly. A lot of times people will ask me about unusual versions of exercises I got from Athlean-X in particular, like butterfly shoulder raises and dead rows. Not to mention all his rehab advice.

I'll make sure to check those out. One of the better trainers I know who does his own independent business has let me shadow him and assist with some of his clients, and discussed business strategy with me, too. So I've gotten kind of idea of how an independent trainer does things. It seems like it involves a lot of running around, but the money seems good. Odds are I'll probably start at a gym, though, just to build experience and some clientelle. I live in a major US city, so there are lots of gyms around. I'm sure somebody is hiring, even for someone who just got their certification. It's NASM, so that at least holds a bit more weight on a resume than some other organizations. At least from what I've been able to tell.

I’m gay lol but I think she has a boyfriend, she is a total catch though, in that sense. I always wondered what her standards would be for a mate, apparently she is dating some Asian professional gymnast or something. She is indeed an angel as it were and has the finest female ass I’ve ever seen in my life, it’s out of this world.
But we keep it professional.

>Find a trainer that works for you

all the trainers in my area require you to sign up for a full year first

they're worth it if they have a significant amount of strength or size. i would also hire somoene like ian mcarthy who isnt huge but looks maxed out for his shit genetics

Remember under current federal law, only a dietician who has the degree and license, may call themselves a dietician.

Meanwhile, there is no current law preventing anybody from calling themselves a nutritionist, even when they start a business.

It would be illegal if you got a business card and advertised yourself as a dietician without the degree and license. It would NOT be illegal if you one day decided to get a business card and advertised yourself as a nutritionist in comparison.

I would contract one if a had money to burn, they can be useful yes but no that as a priority

What the fuck? I've never heard of people doing that. Where do you live that people are making you sign up for such a long commitment? People do generally stay with a trainer for a year if they're committed and the relationship works, but requiring it? That sounds shady as fuck.

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IRL name Alyssa Germeroth

how does pt certification work?

my local gym has trainers, but just says 'they all have at least a 4 year degree in Kinesiology'

is this the same thing, or is this a red flag

4 year degree in kinesiology is MUCH better than a PT certification. A PT just has to take a test online and pay some money and get a certification. Kinesiology degrees are 4 years and require them to take almost pre-med levels of sciences and classes such as biomechanics, exercise physiology, motor control & learning, strength and conditioning, etc. See if any of them have a NSCA CSCS certification, it's really good

>A PT just has to take a test online and pay some money and get a certification.
This is why I went with the NASM certification specifically. You have to take the test in person, so people can't just BS their way through it by doing that shit open-book, and it goes way more in-depth with how to actually train people and make a business out of it than others. But yes, kinesiologists are a much higher tier than any individual PT cert, without question. By the very definition it means they know in very minute detail how the body works and moves.

I don't know what sort of gym you have and where you live that they require such a high baseline level of education, but it sounds like it's probably a really good gym. Those people are almost certainly going to be worth the money to train under.

A regular at my gym is a personal trainer. He used to be a body builder and is still stacked, but not like he used to be.
I asked him to help me once with my lats, and I got the best 30 minute lat workout of my life.
Now I know better methods for training my lats, and apply that to all my back movements.
Can totally be worth it.
best $25 i've spent in a long time.

I only had a PT to teach me how to diddly and squat for a few sessions. Worth it

>Are personal trainers worth it?
Are you and old Boomer who has been sedentary for the last 20-30 years? No? Then you don't need a 'personal trainer'. 99.99% of them only know basic things, enough to get sedentary people moving to some extent again. You want more than that and you're not a crotchety old retiree. Plenty of resources available to you to self-train.
The other 0.01% of 'personal trainers' are out of your price range and might not have time for you even if you can afford them. They're the kind that service actors and rich people.

>IFBB pro
>coach you in dietary things
>Dietary things

Haha yeah, dietary things wink wink

Personal trainers are only worth it if:

1. You're a noob and need to be walked through lifts safely
2. You're trying to do something very specialized or especially grueling and would be doing routines that you literally could not remember in the middle of them without someone yelling at you.
3. You're going to be in a marvel movie and they'll handle getting you roids

For 98% of gymgoers there's no point in using a PT with any regularity.

Most are idiots. None have truly magical or arcane knowlt