Deadlifts on Pull day (Back, Biceps, Forearms) - do you do dls at the end, after forearms, or when?

Deadlifts on Pull day (Back, Biceps, Forearms) - do you do dls at the end, after forearms, or when?

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>deadlifts
>chin/pullup
>heavy row
>second vertical pull
>second row
>biceps superset w forearms

You should always do your main lift first. That would usually be a squat, deadlift, or bench. You should do these first because they're the most demanding, and you do not want to pre-fatigue yourself by doing isolation work first.

>pull day
It doesn't matter you won't be making gains on your shitty split

I can't imagine doing deadlifts first, it leaves you drained.

Deadlifts always first since they’re your main compound movement. NEVER forearms first. I made that mistake and could not do the rest of my workout at all effectively. Forearms would give out before back and I’d be stuck with sore forearms and nothing else worked out.

deadlifts go with lower and pullups/rows go with upper, pleb

This. I usually stretch with bands if I'm feeling tight or do a "feel" set with my main lifts first.

Also, I do DLs on back day even though they're mostly a leg dominant exercise

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I'm on this Push/Pull/Legs split

Week 1
Monday: Chest, Shoulders, Triceps (Push)
Tuesday: Back, Biceps, Forearms (Pull)
Wednesday: Off
Thursday: Legs
Friday: Chest, Shoulders, Triceps (Push)
Saturday: Off
Sunday: Off

Week 2
Monday: Back, Biceps, Forearms (Pull)
Tuesday: Legs
Wednesday: Off
Thursday: Chest, Shoulders, Triceps (Push)
Friday: Back, Biceps, Forearms (Pull)
Saturday: Off
Sunday: Off

Week 3
Monday: Legs
Tuesday: Chest, Shoulders, Triceps (Push)
Wednesday: Off
Thursday: Back, Biceps, Forearms (Pull)
Friday: Legs
Saturday: Off
Sunday: Off

Repeat

bro if you're training 4x weekly you'll train each muscle group more frequently on a lower/upper split. think about it

also keep in mind muscle protein synthesis returns to base levels after 48hrs

some say deadlifts are for back day, others say on leg day. I say they're for another day.

Alright, I'm gonna do Deadlift, Back, Biceps, Forearms (Pull)

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How do you ensure you're doing enough exercises for the respective muscle groups though? That's always what has kept me away from an upper/lower split.

This. Also tiring out large groups of muscles makes it harder to "cheat" when you do you isolations

Compound first
Semi compounds like rows second
Isolation dead last

Compound lifts first, always.

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B&R

How?

Can you give me a sample of a lower/upper split?