(((dating)))

Dating is a uniquely postmodern phenomennon and it isnt trad, but a jewish trick to destroy society.

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what do you propose

REAL trad method of pairing was:

1. courtship/engagement - youll meet each other at the presence of the family, so hands dont become too sticky and for PARENTS to judge you and your family (because bride become a part of husbands family). Also, PARENTS of the bride questioned you about your own family in order to test the geneology, your material status etc. Parents of bride test everything, you also test about your brides history, that is why old marriages were so successful.
NO SEX happened here. BUT WE LOOOOVE EACH OTHER. Okay, and what happens if you stop loving her or engagement fails? Girl looses virginity and is on its way to work at the whorehouse or marry down.

2. marriage - you are OFFICIALY a family. Have wild christian sex and create plenty of white babies. Congrats!

So where does dating fit here?
NOWHERE.
Dating isnt even courting, you basically LARP as a marriage. You LOOOOVE each other and then you LARP as marriage with another, then another and then you wonder how everyone has a mileage when getting married and how so many marriages fail.

Dating isnt a christian custom (is there a place in Bible that even mentions that kind of male-female interaction?) but a jewish trick to destroy society.

So Selner and other coolredpolledtrad people shouldnt do that kind of shit. Either engage a girl who you think is suitable for marriage, dont do this postmodern marriage LARP.

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Because clearly nobody on Earth ever went out with someone they liked until just now. Kill yourself you fucking retard.

there's no plausible alternative. the jews have already won the war on fucking multiple people and never procreating.

yeah that's exactly what he was saying you illiterate worst korean retard.

during time of courtship, potential bride doesnt leave the family, you come to their family to be tested and father of the bride comes to your family often. Notice the influence of brides family in this process.

=low partner count so lower chances of you being in a keek marriage

>Because clearly nobody on Earth ever went out with someone they liked until just now.

dating literally was never the norm until postmodernism.

>there's no plausible alternative.

currently there almost isnt, the system of family doesnt allow for actual trad courtship.

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And you somehow don't see how what he's saying is completely illogical and untrue. But no clearly I'm illiterate and you're so enlightened.

they didnt u retard they got married

it came up like in the 60s.
Its uneuropean in its nature

>dating started in the 60s
What an absolute retard.

Nobody in the 50s ever dated ever nope didn't happen nope photographs of people on dates don't exist nope nope nope everyone just got married immediately yep that's how it happened.

>"Singles, Dating, and Marriage" Baptist Preaching (independent, fundamental, KJV)

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it's true. this modern dating/relationship system is only possible because of birth control and advances in medical tech. having sex/kids used to be something to take seriously as there was no birth control and women often died in child birth. relationships meant a lot more than they do now.

That guy is a nigger parasite, he's basically living off his parish and not doing honest work.

>unironically citing a promoter of race mixing

they first got engaged actually and didnt "hang out" during that time

>Its uneuropean in its nature

its a total mockery of unity between man and women actually.

>But no clearly I'm illiterate and you're so enlightened.

you are asian so you are naturally conformist and cant think outside of the box without the pressure of current social expectations.

>"Singles, Dating, and Marriage"

Anderson keeked hard on dating trying to be hip with the young ones, look up Paul Washers take on it.

postmodernism starts with 20th century you tits.

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Arranged government partners based on chemistry data and compatibility.

> "Tithing in the New Testament" - Baptist Preaching from Faithful Word Baptist - Steven Anderson

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>you are asian so you are naturally conformist and cant think outside of the box without the pressure of current social expectations
I'm a gun owning, freedom loving American on vacation you fucker. But yes most asians are bluepilled as fuck.

look up all the relics in our current post-christian customs. all of them are highly symbolic, father leads his daughter to the church because she (used to) stay in the family during engagement.

prime problem in dating is that it leads to cohabitation.

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MGTOW is the future

>MGTOW is the future

mgtow leads to the past. I feel with them, but they offer no solutions.

They offer great solutions for individual men, just not society.

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BUMP for making families great again!

true, we need short term solutions, but also long term ones.

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Yeah that's nice and all but what if she's got pepperoni nipples and you don't know and you're stuck with that forever because divorce isn't a thing back when that's how courtship worked

>Yeah that's nice and all but what if she's got pepperoni nipples

you deal with it, cummies arent everything in this world.

The day of the nuke can't come soon enough

nice shop, fagget

How is going extinct a great solution?

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Have your mom or sister try on clothes with her

stop it anglin

So what if dating was created by (((them))), it’s easy as fuck to date and even get laid if you want. I fucking love dates, I wish I wasn’t in a 2 year + relationship because dates are fucking fun. I’d say actual “dates” are on the decline in favor of the tinder Netflix and chill.

Here’s a fun fact for you: if you meet a cool weird girl (like yourself you cool weird 4channer) there’s a pretty good chance that she’s only been on a handleful of dates her whole life. They get so nervous when you take them somewhere with waiters it’s fucking adorable ahhhh.

Go on dates! Be a man

you can go on dates with your wife
> 2 year + relationship
How long does it take you to decide if you want to marry someone?

>tfw no pettiboner gf

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Marriage is not the tradthot way.

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If I haven’t done it within the year then something is holding me back and I’ll have to break both our hearts

based croatbro

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she has almost the same exact facial structure as my ex

giving me conflicting feels anytime i see her desu

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arranged marriage is the best

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All you said is truth, but as you also said, there is no alternative today. Not here at least. So I don't know what do you hope to accomplish with this thread.

Daily reminder that this is opposite for men which is why mistresses used to be socially accepted

>I wish I wasn’t in a 2 year + relationship

actually this is degeneracy.

>So I don't know what do you hope to accomplish with this thread.

possibly brainstorm a solution, I just point out the issues, that is the first step.

hehe

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OP knows what he's talking about
(((Dating))) was indeed created to destroy white people and if you can't see it then you're a buffoon

I don't know where I've heard it - but someone said dating was a faggot thing (so, basically, technically, jewish), fags dated so they could fuck in the anus on the side but keep the "normal" appearance.

something like that.

You literally can't go wrong with doing the Muh Stormfag logic - any deviancy in todays society, any...ANY....can be traced back to kike faggots. Any and every.

So any flag posting here that has a history of being pro jewish in any way - fuck off.

That goes to the faggot above, Serbian, those faggots are licking Russian boots, and Russia is probably the BIGGEST cancer on the planet, flexing their supposed "military might" but just like every time in their history,they're full of kikes with anti European agenda.

At least Croatian people slaughtered jews when they got the chance to do so. Serbs fucking love jews.

Shut up fornicator.

I don't understand how this is a controversial statement.

OP is a virgin
OP can't get any
OP is a fucking loser blaming Jews, which is CARICATURAL
You made me turn my PC off for today, good job

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>I don't know where I've heard it - but someone said dating was a faggot thing (so, basically, technically, jewish), fags dated so they could fuck in the anus on the side but keep the "normal" appearance.

possibly, but "heterosexual" oral sex is 100% traced back to faggotry. Same with "heterosexual" anal. Notice that in oral sex male is the recieved of pleasure which makes it feminine.

Plenty of "hetero" things of today arent that actually.

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dating = courtship
its really that simple lad

Extended patriarchal families where marriages are arranged by the elders of the family on the basis of how respectable the girl's family is. But that requires a prerequisite of women staying at home and not going out without the company of a male relative after the age of 12.

>dates are fun
Kys you degenerate peice of shit youll hang in the end.

As much as I would love to see a return of traditional relationships, I can’t in good conscience endorse marriage in this degenerate clown world. Not when fags are now able to get married. Not when women who have taken miles of cock can wear white veils (symbolizing purity) and have their gratuitously expensive weddings as a celebration of their personal vanity. Not when good men can be emotionally and financially ruined because of feminist laws that enable women to walk out on their families the moment they decide they’re unhappy.

Marriage, as originally conceived, was a great idea. It was the foundational building block of civilization. But the red pill can’t bring back what we’ve lost. It’s sadly become a caricature of what it was intended to be.

You mean *dating*.

Marry a virgin and dont get divorced
Its not hard

Obfuscating.

jewish?

>Dating isnt a christian custom (is there a place in Bible that even mentions that kind of male-female interaction?) but a jewish trick to destroy society.
Christianity is also a Jewish trick to destroy society.

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>just don’t get divorced, bro

Is that seriously your advice? Tell that to all the devoted husbands whose wives walked out on them.

Your first bit of advice is better. Virgins are obviously a safer bet. But it’s not exactly easy to find one these days.

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>for PARENTS to judge you and your family
>potential bride doesnt leave the family, you come to their family to be tested and father of the bride comes to your family often
LMFAO good fucking luck with getting anywhere with this. Seriously. It's an arranged marriage at this point where """""knowing parents""""" set up what they think is """""good"""" for their kids. Also, not only if you divorce she and her family takes half or more of your shit, you have to make sure that you work, treat her like daddy wants her to treat aside from society already being super nice to girls and punishing men for who they are, you propose this family approval? Approval from pussified and feminized parents? LMFAO get a load of this fucking goy. Seriously kys. Just kys.

Jesus fucking christ croat, I have seen so many MISERABLE people from this kind of shit. They all end up cheating, dating side chicks and side guys and even having kids from others, while pretending that their family is super trad and they are super virtuous. Literally NOTHING was further from the truth. It was all a big fucking lie. But hey, the parents were happy, that's all that mattered right?
>inb4 parents know better
>inb4 a liberal scum
Oh yes, just like the boomers who fucked up literally everything. You expect their kids to know better? We haven't had a good role model in half a century if not more. What makes you think that all of a sudden this is going to work? I wouldn't be surprised if this was written by a boomer-tier nigger either. This thread is beyond dumb.

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We have to start it again.
We must find a low count girl (virgin is best) / religioous girl, marry her, have lots of childrens and re-establish the tradition with our childrens

now what if you are say 18 and just have a gf? is that a degeneracy?
also, my friend met his wife when they were like 15. they were together ever since and got married a couple years ago (in their late 20's)
was that degenerate too?

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Most people use their dating profile like some kind of portfolio, listing all their favorite shit. It's a coping mechanisms but less than 5% of ever meets up.

>what do you propose
* get rid of the tavern culture that started in the 1880s
* bring back high class brothel culture

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My grandpa was telling me stories about women he dated in the 40's you dumb kraut

Arranged marriage

>Marrying someone you don't even know or love

Yeah, nah.

>date a virgin
>she dumps me years later because muh personality, muh independence, muh don't wanna be a housewife and I need no man in my life
They are all spoiled princesses, you can't appease them in any way
>inb4 libural gril
She was raised in a conservative family. It's over lads. It's fucking over.

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This, but unironically.

tfw no bp gf

Not sure if kike or a roastie

theyre just larping let them have their fun

>Not when women who have taken miles of cock can wear white veils (symbolizing purity) and have their gratuitously expensive weddings as a celebration of their personal vanity.

its totally abhorent seeing that and noone bats an eye, but real trad courtship would prevent it being a mockery.

>dating = courtship

with *priviliges*. LARP marriage basically.

>It's an arranged marriage at this point where """""knowing parents""""" set up what they think is """""good"""" for their kids.

its not an ARRANGED marriage, partners do choose but test before banging. read some dostoyevski ffs.

>was that degenerate too?

dating is not the problem per se, but problem is what it leads to most of the time. capichy?

>>Marrying someone you don't even know or love

who suggested that?

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Love is cathedral that takes time to get buid. There is no "love at first sight"

disgustingly CAKED in makeup

Jews do not want western people to reproduce. Jews want a brown slave working class of people. That's what they will get with these race mixers. Jews are not European, Europe is white. Turkey is not European. Italians are white. Latinos are white, italians are white.

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>Love is cathedral that takes time to get buid. There is no "love at first sight"

You just argued in favor of dating. I hope that was your intention.

>be dating a virgin qt right now
>only kissed 2 dudes
>comes from mega rich conservative family

Well, we shall see how it goes

is he here?

>read some dostoevsky
>Dostoevsky had serious marriage issues and would spend his fortune on fucking casinos
Yeah, no thanks.
>partners do choose but test before banging
Like i said, good luck appealing to her dad and making him like you. You can be taller, stronger, smarter, richer, but he will still not like you, especially in today's society where girls are literally raised like princesses. Good fucking luck with that. It's better to play girl's mind like a jew and convice her to marry you than to convince her dad that you are the best and then she will have a resentment towards both you and her father, which will lead her to fall for feminism bullshit with "muh body muh choice" shit. Jews played on this weakness.

neither extreme is good. Couples should be together as bf-gf for some time as a sort of trial, but always with the intent of a long-term relationship. If it doesn't work out then ok, break up and part ways.
What I do think is absurd is this idea of just "dating around" with an already clear idea of having many short-term relationships that don't go anywhere and aren't supposed to.

Finding a wife should be as easy as buying a car.

>Go to matchmakers' website
>Find qt you can afford
>Get qt inspected to verify health and virginity
>Show daddy the money
>Take wife home same day

Exactly this. Date with the intent to marry.

>Dostoevsky had serious marriage issues and would spend his fortune on fucking casinos

I said READ about pre-postmodern times D wrote. The methods I proposed worked then, they can work again.

Best of luck. I hope it works out for you, but try not to be too invested in her, because when she pulls out, your heart will be just fucking stomped and your life will turn into hell, especially knowing that she is literally a text message away from getting laid from bunch of degenerate chads and niggers on tinder.

Dating is absolute degeneracy.

My gf's dad hates me but that's justified because I'm a fucking loser.

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Nah
True love comes along the way. If you marry only beacause you are in love, the day your love weakens, your marriage falls appart

>what is courting
It always existed, it just got more lewd

>Latinos
>White
WTF, mestizos are not white, but a real life example that mixed subhumans are not very efficient or effective labour force

>What I do think is absurd is this idea of just "dating around" with an already clear idea of having many short-term relationships that don't go anywhere and aren't supposed to.

its just a way of virtue signaling that you are not a whore/whoremonger but you LOOOOOVE each other and are somehow better than a random slut/fornicator.

Its all bullshit. At least sluts dont whitewash their sins, but (((serious relationship))) mock marriage and only minority of them end up being married.

(((MGTOW)))

Disagree on that second part. In my experience, western society often doesn't even promote marriage, and couples feel almost weird to talk about it. It would be different if parents would be like
>you guys have been together for some time now, you thinking of marrying soon?
I've been with my gf for about 4-5 years now and we've only just decided to get married, and it was motivated more by bureaucratic reasons. There's just no apparent reason for it, since noone cares if you're married or just a serious relationship. My parents have never once said anything about me getting married, they were even a bit surprised when I told them. Go figure.

I just got out of a 3 year relationship with a girl who had fucked 5 people, including me. She had something like 1000 friends and worked in a bar. She was ALWAYS one "yes" away from getting gangbanged. She broke up with me because she wanted to be single again and decided she didnt want to have a family and everything before hoe'ing it up.

This girl has 60 friends on facebook, works with her dad, and ZERO male friends.

>pre-postmodern times
You are proving my point. They are not going to work now. It's too late and trying to get back to that is just a waste of time. We either re-engineer a woman from bottom-up by physically rewiring her shit genetic code given by (((nature))) or we just create robo-waifus and let roasties work their jobs and feel independent as much as they want.
Don't worry. Have PhD in Chem taller than her dad, can make more money, don't require her princess to clean my house or cook anything, am blonde white guy, but nah. Still a loser in his eyes. They will always think of you as a loser no matter what. Men are just disposable and even other men treat us like shit. Winning this game is just as likely as winning the lottery nowadays. I checked with my other friends and they too are struggling to secure a mate even though they are more succesful than their gf's parents.