Ive always heard that girls get wet for a dominant male who doesnt give a shit about them e.g. treats them like shit

>I've always heard that women like being treated like shit
>height face frame meme
dude I assume you're in your teens, my advice is to listen to and simply go out and talk to them, the only requirement is a little bit of confidence

Women don’t like being treated like shit, they like being told what to do by a confidant, charismatic alpha. Literally only betas submit to women. You don’t hit them other physical abuse, but you are in command and you are firm with them.

Based

>e.g. treats them like shit.
You are right until this.
Women can tell if you are treating them like shit ON PURPOSE.
This is the correct part
>girls get wet for a dominant male who doesn't give a shit about them

Not giving a shit means not giving a shit what they think. It means being able to go up to a girl, get rejected, then moving on instantly from it.
Part of this is realizing that women aren't special, your oneintis is just another hole to fuck. When you act like this, women realize they have to try a little harder to keep you around, since they are disposable.

I wouldn't say they enjoy being treated like shit. They do like men who go their own way. If you submit too much she will eventually dance on your nose. They're like dogs, really. If you loose the leash too much it will misbehave, it's about finding the perfect length of the leash so both of you're happy.

This + refuses to date any girl over 25

Unbelievably based.

see this sort of insight helps a lot.

I am more of the mind like, when a girl is fun its great and i love to be with her and have fun. other times i want to fuck the shit out of her and then afterwards i need to go do some work or something.

i'm curious what the balance is though; do i ever have to do something she wants to do or can it be as close to 100/0 what i want to do vs what she wants to do?

>the incel words in full caps
Yup, is leaking again

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This, my gf loves this stuff but you still have to be caring, respectful and a regular person otherwise.

I mean its possible to find someone like OP wants, but youre not really in a relationship. And I dont think OP has the ability to attract women in such a way if he was to ask.

Pretty much this. It's about confidence and control. You can treat them like shit during sex because that is MOST girls thing but there's a switch you have to flip. A lot of it a vibe thing. Of course some whores are just drawn to people who treat them like shit. They lowkey don't think they deserve any better and know how to find assholes. These girls get continually pump and dunped and usually read tarot cards in there off whore time trying to justify poor choices with "intuition" then continually making the same mistakes. If you find one of these girls avoid or also pump and dump if possible.

I had something similar with a girl when I was 18. We'd only meet up to have sex and while I didn't feel anything else for her, she actually hoped she could eventually be together with me. She wasn't ugly/stupid either, quite opposite in fact, had other guys running for him all the time. I didn't mistreat her thought because I'm not a fucking incel. Eventually I ended it myself because it was degenerate and it would've gone on for years if it were up to her.
Most of the incels dreaming of this powerfantasy that come here from Jow Forums don't have the looks for this, but my advice to those few that do is this - don't do it. It's fun for the first few times, but it quickly turns immoral if you only have sex with her and then discard her while she's clearly into you. Most young women don't have the self-awareness to stop themselves from this self-destructive behaviour and will actually delude themselves into believing that if you two fuck long enough you'll eventually end up loving eachother. But knowing what site we're on that's probably never going to happen so go back to your autistic board, OP.

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It's not about what you are doing. If you want to do something with her then do it. If you don't and have a good reason not to, tell her.

Pretty good answer desu not a bad thread of level headed people calling op a psycho

>unironically using Tedna "spamming cuck porn threads, pol calls him out and then he runs away to China" Spencer's incel comics

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>Not making girls do a video confession stating exactly what they’re about to do with you before sex

Never gonna make it buddy. I got some 30 somethin confessions for rainy days. Try it some time, chicks dig the concept cuz then it means they get to jump in the bed with you faster. Make it seem like an quirky obstacle

>do i ever have to do something she wants to do or can it be as close to 100/0 what i want to do vs what she wants to do?
Of course you can do things that she wants to do you autist!
You really have to think of them like children. You would take your kid to the petting zoo or whatever because you want them to be happy even though you don't really want to go. It's not about her bowing to your every whim. Its about making sure she does right by you and keeps her shit together. Just like you'd want your kid to behave.

is it possible to find women that you don't have to do this stuff for?

like ive heard some talk about how many women are such low self esteem/insecure that they will accept being treated like shit/ignored as long as they have sole access to their man, but i am not sure if this is a meme or not.

when i say this is a meme, i mean in the sense that like alot of people used to say "women like a sensitive nice polite respectful man who isn't intimidating" but that was wrong and women like a more tough and confident man.

my question is that, are most women actually ok to be treated like sex objects and then simply follow a man around if they respect and are sexually attracted to him?

B A S E D

2 Counts of "intent to do bodily harm" because i whipped and choked her with my belt
1 count of Sodomy by force
6 FUCKING YEARS and 290
TEXT GIRLS AFTER U FUCK THEM OP

Women like you describe always have physical or severe emotional abuse history. They have been beaten down their whole lives by (usually Dad) men and that is what becomes their model for how a man should treat them. An important thing to remember is that trauma as a child turns in to attraction as an adult. So any women you find like this is a broken individual and you have to be some kind of piece of shit you actually take advantage of this, but women those women are naturally drawn to this type of guy. so unless you are actually a huge piece of shit capable of hitting and diddling your own daughter you will never land one of these women.

Yeah i never thought about this, but ever since this trauma happened to me i'm not having sex anymore and just focussing on gains.
when i get back to wanting females, i'll do this.

Truth is, i hate women now.
I'll always despise women for this.
Even the good ones, i'll hate them too.
I didn't rape her, but now i wish i did.
Seriously, men are superior. Fuck females, Fuck feminism, Fuck California, women have too much fucking power.
I might as well chop my dick off, i don't even want to use it anymore.
I need therapy for this.

OP is clearly watching too much porn.

You can find a gf who you can call whatever name you want, slave, sex doll, slut ect. But you still have to treat her right and not like an object as per an actual relationship goes.

If OP just wants to fuck then go on tinder and find a couple girls or a fuck buddy. But what OP is asking for is basically a live in slave, and no attractive self assured and confident girl is gonna do that for you.

OP I would reevaluate your perception of women, develop yourself and attract a woman whos awesome and whos sexual niches line up with yours. There are women who will wear colars and leashes for you and play that role. You might find a relationship more validating and enjoyable than you think.

so the innate tendency to submit to a man and to stick around and endure poor treatment isn't a biological tendency but rather one that arises out of trauma?

when you define abuse history, what is your perspective of women who have a history of low self esteem and strictly define their self worth through the acquisition of an attractive man? (.e.g. most women).

my whole thing is i just want to know what is realistic as to how far i push the envelope. i just want to be able to focus on my life without having to waste too much time taking my girl out to stupid art events and watching netflix doing nothing. i'd like to fuck her and take her out to dinner and do the shit i want to do but theres a very clear line in the sand when i'll need to focus on my career or my other goals and at that time will women accept being used strictly as a fuck hole while their "man" treats them coldly/disregards them almost entirely?

whos the girl in the picture? shes hot as fuck

At least you admit there's a problem, and have a good idea of the next step to take in solving it. Now you just have to do it

get therapy you fucking incel degenerate

Had a girl that fits your description, but not caring about her ended up making me disinterested in fucking her, so I said goodbye.

Women enjoy being temporarily dominated. Not 24/7. Theres a balance to it

First question: yes! although women are naturally more submissive, but a healthy women will say no to what she doesn't want

Second question: Same concept as before, just without the straight up physical abuse, emotionally crippled by dad either leaving the family or being distant. women need a strong father figure who gives them lots of attention to be healthy. In this situation she was a child who never felt good enough for dads attention and she is trying to make up for that in relationships. Once again she is attracted and drawn to emotionally unavailable men

Question 3: You find the answer to that let me know. Why do you think stand up comedy and sitcoms exist You are talking about things that every man in history struggles with. My only advice is to find a girl who has a good relationship with her father.
As far as you using her strictly for a fuck hole when you are busy with your career? Maybe you shouldn't have a girlfriend until that is on the level, it really isn't fair to treat a loyal woman like that ever. If she is important to you then you have to make time for her. No healthy person regardless of male or female should tolerate this behavior. Just like kids, females are a commitment and you should make time for them or get rid of them.

Might be walking into a situation like this now man, I'm not quite sure how I feel about her yet. But, if I come to realize there's no potential I'll try to step up and end things.

Thanks for the wisdom.

Holy shit where do you virgins learn this shit? First off, stop taking advice from people who aren't where you want to be. Incel virgins taking the advice of incel virgins is honestly fucking pitiful. Go outside. Make some friends. Ask them what it takes to fuck.

On to the domination shit, it's not even that women want to be dominated, ever. A lot of fags will say during sex, or if they are extra submissive-- that's all bullshit. That right there is how you can tell that (A) the faggot user in question is giving you his outside evaluation of relationships that he has seen but not been apart of, or (B) the faggot user in question is married, either to a girl who came with a fuckton of baggage, or who needed a green card / half-white baby.

Again, women so not want to be dominated. Women want to be outclassed. Women want a man who is out of their league because that adds unearned social value to their lives. It's why girls like arbitrary physical traits; height wins over colored eyes, colored eyes win over abs, abs win over physical strength, on and on. These traits don't need to be useful, just rare enough to get other girls to notice you, then notice her, and then ask what she has that they don't have that makes them worth you. Are you understanding? You are an accessory to them. They don't need you to DO anything. They need you to inherently BE certain things and the closer you are to 'rare' in your social grouping, the more they love and worship you.

You misinterpreted this shit because you are male. Men are simple and straight forward so we tend to think in a way that is simple and straight forward. You think that she gets off to being submissive to you because she is wet when you are dominant and abusive. But what she is actually getting off to is the mindfuck of being with someone with more perceived value, who is therefore allowed to treat her like shit, because she is shit by comparison.

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>will women accept this sort of treatment or is it a meme?
I will accept it if the guy is hot enough and shows some kind of affection once a month

im sure you meant well when typing up this response but it honestly feels like this is antithetical to what my original intention was.

i think you represent an ideal of 'everyone should be treated equal and with respect' and that "it isn't fair to treat a loyal woman like that". being fair is never really the concern, everyone wants to have their cake and eat it too.

i guess i'm more asking, are most women manipulable enough to be treated like shit (regardless of what is "right")?

>Make some friends. Ask them what it takes to fuck.

thats not great advice; i think the average doesn't represent the ideal.

if we were to ask the average gymgoer, they'd probably say being able to bench 185 is alot.

i'd just like to know what is possible- i really don't want to have to waste time dealing with a girls bullshit like 90% of the dudes i see out there doing.

>dominant
>doesnt give a shit about them e.g. treats them like shit.

This can overlap but doesn`t have to. Also they smell when dominance is faked/learned and you`re not Meryl Streep. In this case you`re just heading towards prison where you`re the bitch.

>They need you to inherently BE certain things and the closer you are to 'rare' in your social grouping, the more they love and worship you.
Absolutely not true. By that logic, manlets would dominate the sexual market as they are the rarest.

This, women love hard dominance, slapping her, fucking her rough, ignoring her, making her jealous but you can't do them all the time or you'll drive them away, they also need cuddles and kisses, you stroking their hair telling them they look pretty, this is called soft dominance, balancing both makes a girl fall deeply in love

If you are still confused just look at the way girls treat 'the help' or anyone that they think is below their status socially
>condescension
>pity
>baby talk
>bitter attitude
>anger
>as if they are invisible
Now look at the way women treat the authority figures that they depend on, doctors, teachers, preachers, bosses
>polite
>curated smile and voice
>bend over backwards for any little request
>spend time and energy thinking of how to please
>tailor their words and actions to be non-offensive
>will verbally come to the defense of, so long as they are perceived to be "one the same team"

It's not a dominance play bro

this, some guys are naturally dominant, they don't even have to treat you like shit, but you know they are in charge

i always end up checking out girls when in public; not something ive ever really thought about stopping

you think a girl would find that aggravating or would make her more inclined to put up with my shit

Some women get off to it.

You do have to make her feel appreciated when she does shit, usually through rough sex. And when you do fuck her you often need to do it as punishment for being naughty in whatever she's done- just fucking and ignoring isn't good enough

>Most of the incels dreaming of this powerfantasy that come here from Jow Forums don't have the looks for this
What are the looks for this?

this, I ignored my twink for 3 days and he literally came back begging for my cock.
we also had an argument and he talked back to me, so I grabbed him, then I pulled down his pants (he's 110lbs) and I slapped his ass until he screamed, he was angry as fuck but I could feel his penis getting hard.

women and twinks LOVE being treated like shit and then getting affection back, just avoid treating them too bad.

It was the only way to visualize OP's incel mentality.
I think it's fine to just have sex if both of you know it's just sex and nothing else. The problem with most girls is that they'll tell you it's okay and they only want to fuck but secretly they think that you will develop feelings for them in the process of fucking them and then they'll get what they want - a relationship. Obviously that isn't the case for most guys (mainly because someone who is so easy to get into a sexual agreement with isn't relationship material to begin with) and they end up hurting themselves.
If a girl ever tells you they're not going to develop feelings for you, don't believe it. They might not even be lying to you, they just don't know it yet. I've believed them many times and always ended up feeling bad because they liked me while I just liked their pussy and didn't have the character to end it sooner. At the end of the day, if you feel wrong doing it, end it.

>will it be possible (if you have HEIGHT FACE FRAME) to find a girl who you can basically fuck whenever you want and then ignore her when she isnt useful to her? at that point she either makes you food or grabs you something to drink while you live the rest of your life until you feel like fucking her again?

It's absolutely possible and a daily reality for many people.

Getting on steroids and putting myself past other men physically opened up things like this in my life.

Don't strive for it though. Just be the best version of yourself and sex will just come on its own.

I sort of answered this. The answer is yes, most women are naturally more submissive and are willing to put up with BS. How much abuse they will tolerate is contingent on their childhood.
I read a pain study where they had men and women put their hand on a plate that heated up and told they could take their hand away whenever they wanted. Almost all the women left their hand on longer than man who left his hand on the longest. They are fundamentally more willing to tolerate pain.
But "most" is hard to say, Not sure if there is enough research to make that claim. but its a safe bet that almost ALL of them are more manipulable than almost ALL men. But then there are total cucks so what do I know?

there are so many cucks out their that i'm wondering if women are so sick of them that they'll do anything once they find a boss

Women do love that sort of behavior, but only with someone they trust in an intimate environment.

You have to win them over by being a gentleman, then treat them like sluts behind closed doors.

i would self post but i don't want to be ridiculed for all this. but i'm qualified

This man slept with one pretty girl and overthought it for years and years.

They are certainly more willing to put up with more than in the past. Desperation will lead to desperate compromises.
Chicken or the egg type of thing, did surplus of whores make men desperate enough to be cucks? or did desperate cucks make women so uninterested in keeping a man that they just decided to whore it up?

What age did you first have sex? Have you had sexual experiences after that? I was 14 when I lost my virginity and have been having an active sex life since. I'm 24 now. If you haven't had sex/haven't had many sexual partners since your late teens, you don't have the looks. Or if you've only been with one girl and still are, I envy you and you don't need my advice.

Nice try.

Fuck everyone in this thread, just read pic related.

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What is it about?

It's the 1950's French version of 50 shades of grey.

>will women accept this sort of treatment or is it a meme

its not a meme but most fo (YOU) will never know it anyway :^)

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>Story of O is a tale of female submission involving a beautiful Parisian fashion photographer named O, who is taught to be constantly available for oral, vaginal, and anal intercourse, offering herself to any male who belongs to the same secret society as her lover. She is regularly stripped, blindfolded, chained, and whipped; her anus is widened by increasingly large plugs; her labium is pierced and her buttocks are branded.

Sounds gross. The French are great painters, but atrocious writers

Lol, this thread got moved from Jow Forums to Jow Forums.

aahahajjhsjhsjkss lmao

It's MOSTLY a meme.
I mean there is some truth to it, but its not that simple.

Many normal women are sexually aroused by rape porn and fantasies but they dont want to actually be raped.

And the women who seek toxic men that treat them badly are often toxic themselves.

>her anus is widened by increasingly large plugs; her labium is pierced and her buttocks are branded.
gross. w*men aren't actually turned on by this shit, r-right bros?

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