Are you interested in philosophy, Jow Forums?

Actually, watching the Lobsterman's videos reduces your IQ into a single digit.
It went under your 2-digit IQ.

Stephan molneux is a modern day Socrates

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oh wait never mid i thought you said 2 IQ my bad

I think it depends on the author a lot. Some write it in such a way, that it keeps you sucked in for quite a while. But its very subjective.
Jordon Peterson? Don't think I've ever heard of him, should I give his lectures a shot or is it a waste of time?

fine then, incel.

i'm interested in seeing all avatarfags murdered in the street.

oh come the fuck on

Sounds like you need some fresh air

Jordan Peterson is philosophy 101. But Jow Forumstards act like he's the secondcoming of Jesus.

eh... i dunno from what i got out of those 10 minutes wasn't really thought-provoking tbqh it was just about the social hierarchy of males and for some reason i clicked on it

Oh, so regular Jow Forums stuff? I guess I should give him a chance just to be fair. Yet, the fact that Jow Forums likes him isn't a very good sign.

He overcomplicates most of the things.
See what he thinks about "truth", " atheism"
Or how people can't be morally good without Christianity/Judaism

A bit.
I like Hegel and Kant.
Nietzsche's ok, but I prefer Sartre and Camus.

He's literally the stupid man's idea of a smart man; someone who says the same regressive sexist classist crap that he does, just with a more varied vocabulary and an unnecessary amount of filler sentences.

Like, one of his videos is just "women get paid less because they have babies and nothing's wrong with that", but because of how flamboyantly self-absorbed this kermit-voiced bastard is, he stretched that sentence into a 10-minute rant. Avoid him at all costs.

He still deserves a chance, I suppose. I can't judge a book without actually reading it.

You really like Sartre? I found him interesting, yet extremely depressive. Even more so than Nietzsche.
Do you think he actually believes in what he is saying? Or is it just to impress the alt-right guys and for the hype?

please stick to danish imageboards

His lectures about religion is purely to milk money from his Jow Forumsfanbase.

No, the other Danes are bad posters

I think most Danes here are quite friendly, aren't they?

One of them shares pretty questionable pics of kids and the other one is from Jow Forums and impossible to have a conversation with. Some of the Danes that doesn't frequently uses Jow Forums are okay.

Philosophy is a black hole. Applying that philosophy to something else is golden.

I think it can be useful on its own as well. Trying to get into it and figure it out helps discipline the mind.
I remember "Nicemark" who is mostly a good guy, but for some reason many people seem to dislike him. Also that user who really hates the /ak/ generals.

yes and Kant is good boi

I find it interesting, one day I want to spend a whole week just reading from various philosophers.

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Yes. Soon I'm going to university to study philosophy
>haha you're going to die of hunger
I know

Nice initiative, but bet a whole week of non-stop philosophy can be dangerous to the stability of one's mind.
Unfortunately, never got to studying his works. I probably should eventually.

I read some camus and sartre, wasn't very good.

I respect people, studying philosophy. Yet have to admit, finding a job after that might be a pain in the ass. Wish you luck with your studies nevertheless!

well you can teach philosophy to other people studying it xD

But honestly studies should not only be to learn a job, you have to learn to think about life and stuff

In which autors are you interested? I started with some Plato and Descartes. After I went for Nietzsche and Cioran

After all them I'm analyzing the historical figure of Alexander Scriabin, a mystical russian poet and composer which, in some ways, was the man Nietzsche wanted to be but never really became

>well you can teach philosophy to other people studying it xD
so this is where all the deadbeat teachers come from

Also I'm very interested in the more creative and artistical side of philosopy. I see it like the poem of the everything

You might have a good point actually, I'll tone that down a bit.

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You should listen to him, even if you disagree with what he says. It is a good way to see other viewpoints.

At least studying philosophy can improve one's cognitive abilities. However, I've known a few people, for whom it kinda backfired. They took it too seriously and ended up completely alienating themselves from society. You got to maintain a balance, which isn't always easy.
I can't boast of being a huge expert on philosophy. I used to be quite interested in Nietzsche, but most of his ideas proved to be truly mind-bending, sometimes it felt like I was reading the work of an actual schizophrenic (which he probably was). Kierkegaard was probably one of the most unique ones I've encountered, a really interesting take on the Bible and the philosophy behind it. Sartre was pretty boring to my mind, as well as way too depressive. I could go on, but those were probably the most memorable ones, if we keep it strictly inside the sphere of philosophy.

I have read philosophy but I feel like I'm a bit too dumb for most of it. My IQ has been tested by mensa as 124 and I've heard a few people express that to really "get" most philosophy you need to be 130+. That being said, I have a natural hatred for the most of the french philosophers, not including Descartes and a couple others whose name escapes me. I think that might just be a British bias, idk,

I'm not going to pretend I understand all of Foucalt but I do understand a lot of his historical work and I know for a fact that in that work he is so fucking obtuse. Sometimes I don't get him and I'm willing to blame that on my relatively low IQ, but others I'm just left thinking "nigga u could have said that in 2% as many words"

In Foucalt's defence, I do think Peterson strawmans him a little bit. Foucalt is definitely obsessed with power and seeing the world as a series of power games but Peterson seems to imply that that is /all/ Foucalt does, which I think he is far too smart to actually believe.

Good point, one cannot discard a person's opinion on the sole basis of Jow Forums agreeing with him. Got to check out for myself.

Wow, you seem to be quite knowledgeable on the subject. I think that although, understanding philosophy is desirable, it is not necessary always the main point. Even if you don't exactly get the idea the author put into his work, its still bound to provoke certain thoughts and pushes you towards coming up with your own ideas. I regard it more as gymnastics for the mind than a puzzle that has only one correct answer. At least that's how I see it.

Based pragmatist here

Peterson isn't really a darling of Jow Forums. He is a pragmatist and like most modern day pragmatists he tends to think a mixture of market and government is best, he is against identity politics and often rails against white nationalism. He is pro-Jew as well.

The only reason he sometimes gets lumped with Jow Forums is because he hates socialists, diversity politics and most importantly is the king of "Self-improvement". Unlike Jow Forumstards though his idea of self-improvement is usually backed by psychology literature.

Peterson isn't a genius for creating new ideas, but for his ability in presenting very old ideas in a digestible and often somewhat funny way. In my estimation he has a dodgy understanding of "truth" and dodges questions about "god", but if you want to learn about the psychological significance of biblical and other iconography or you just want a motivational "sort your self out man" speech then he is a very good place to start.

Yeah, I guess that is somewhat a Barthes-esque understanding of literary works. I somewhat agree, but I don't take it to the extreme that some do in saying that "therefore whatever you read into anything is equally justifiable to what the author meant".

>all philosophy leads to nihilism
i was i just stoped giving a fuck when i came to the thoughts of how fucked the world truly was
now i worry about me and my family

tldr
just live your life enjoy it dont waste it over thinking shit

Thanks for the info on the guy. I believe every philosopher, no matter how much one disagrees with his worldview, can offer a few ideas worth investigating. Not too fond of "self-improvement" and "motivation" lectures, but if can offer some unique ideas on the Bible, I'd say he is worth giving a chance.

Absolutely. It may be presumptuous but I consider myself a modern Diogenes since I studied Socrates heavily before 8 went stark raving mad. Ancient cynicism was far better than stoicism. Never could get behind modern cynicism.
I think everyone should at least dabble in philosophy a little if only to help them expand their methods of thinking.

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Before I went stark raving mad*

I personally don't understand why ontology is so important to philosophy. Wikipedia tells me that:

"A very simple definition of ontology is that it is the examination of what is meant by 'being'."

But why does that even matter? You're here, you're experiencing life, why should it matter what it means to be? Just go through the paces and die.

...

Yes actually but never delved far into it, once I finish my engineering course I'd like to get into it a lot more.

Careful with that cynicism. There's a reason it shares a root word with "cyanide".

I consider myself an egotist.

Only enough to watch george Carlin videos

Sometimes I ponder the meaning of life, if that's what you mean.

Fell asleep and forgot to reply. I'm Nicemark and you're right when you say some people seems to dislike me but I guess everyone has their own preferences in posters.

Not really. Chceked.

Same

I suppose that is how philosophy works most of the time. It doesn't always have a practical application.

There is nothing wrong with postmodernism

How the fuck has no one pointed out that you've got "sWAg" in your ID?

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Brown women are my philosphy

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maybe if Socrates had down syndrome

Stefan Molyneux's constant humble bragging about "I'm no Socrates but..." is fucking hilarious

are you black?

nah

wh*Te?

NOPE

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unfortunately

That doesn't prevent you from dating black girls, right?

nah, plenty in my town. Maybe like 3-5%?

Jow Forums doesn't like Jordan Peterson dude, they literally insult him calling him Mr. Juden peterstein. However, he did get the ball rolling for me that masculinity and gender roles are a good thing desu. One gender has the inherent capacity to do something while another doesn't, so accentuating that something is extremely good and will provide you with the best of that something. I've been working on masculinity too, it's an art we've lost in the west but is still alive and well in russia. He has good points on gender relations, so does stefan molyneux.

Not since I got aspergers.

I take analytical philosophy pretty seriously. I don't really care for continental philosophy. Continental philosophy seems to me like lots of sophistic bullshit with no practical applications other than showing off how much one has read.
I've only ever read a few fragments of the Bhagavad Gita and the Annalects, so I can't say I know enough about Eastern philosophy to voice an opinion on it.

Have you read Aristotle? I hope you have. That's where all serious Western philosophy springs from.
Plato had plenty of good ideas, but his thinking was too heavily focused on abstract concepts instead of ideas which can be used to analyze real-life situations.

Jow Forums isn't one person and some people are much harder on the gamergate side of things than the t_d area. Implying one gender is unable to do something entirely (asides from the obvious physical organs and the like) is pretty fucktarded, and talk of the west "having lost masculinity" is pretty retarded too. You sound like the kind of person who would think the onions meme is a genuine thing and not made up by faggots to sell books and self help videos. Self improvement as a concept is a good idea but the shit pushed on Jow Forums is just cancer used to entice teenagers and 20 year olds insecure about their masculinity and social standing into buying bullshit products and books to serve their ever present insecurity.
And don't even try to justify Stefan Molyneux he's the faggot who thinks colonialism was a good thing and that the Roman empire fell because they started giving bread to poor citizens.

WAAAAAAH I WANT A GLOBAL RULE AGAINST THIS CARTOON TOO

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Blue-haired girls are Jow Forums culture

I have unironically started to like Scientology. I'm considering visiting Switzerland to try out auditing with a schismatic group there.

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I haven't studied scientology, but I've heard it can be pretty dangerous. Just want to warn you that you should think twice before taking that path. There might be no way back.

I'm not going near the Church of Scientology, I think I'll be fine.
youtube.com/watch?v=73AdC09azSI

>philosophy
>Jordan peterson
The pseuds of the chans.

I hope so, just be careful. They are a powerful organization and have lots of tools at their disposal.

I had philosophy when I was in high school it was alright.

Murray N. Rothbard is a great philosopher.

Yeah. Got this a few days ago. Don't plan on minoring in philosophy or anything but I took a philosophy class once and got interested.

Wouldn't call myself very knowledgeable on the subject though.

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I've studied the philosophies, or at least the mentalities behind meme dictators like Hitler and Stalin, if that counts. Stalin's story in particular is a tragic story of a sympathetic man turned into his own antithesis through loss and suffering, almost like a real-life Darth Vader. Makes you wonder what it takes to break a man, to make him lose his ability to feel.

Philosophy is so subjective it borders bullshit. You can "rationally" justify damn near anything as long as you ascribe to a certain school of thought. Mental indigestion really

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philosophy is highly ritualized persuasive writing/speaking, 5th grade ELA non(scoffs)fiction standard

I want to lick Lapis's thighs so bad holy shit

dialectics

i recently finished a book called like 100 philosophers or something. list of some of the most influential philosophers and their ideas and lives. pretty interesting, now that i have a general idea of the time line i am planning on going in depth more on first Aristotle then some more modern western philosophers

also i wanted to say that this was a really nice thread thank you op.

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