How do you know if a girl cums...

How do you know if a girl cums? Unless she's verbally communicating with you (even then she can be lying) how does a man deduce he's made a woman cum (in the absence of vaginal discharge which is most likely just urine)? I've never received a straight answer. Just vague references to the woman getting more tense, more wet, and moaning louder for a few seconds. But aren't these just ordinary parts of sex and not necessarily climaxes?

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made my ex cum 1 time (once) and her pussy gripped my fingers like a python

honestly you just have to take her word for it at the end of the day, there is no other way of telling for sure other than what you described as "vague references" because that really is what it looks and feels like, also my ex had very strong kegels muscles and every time she came she smooshed my dick with her pussy so sometimes you can feel that as well but its not impossible to fake as well

The vagina either tenses completely or pulsates

this, if you make a girl cum while fingering her you can clearly feel it, and with very few girls you can feel it while you're fucking them.

most girls faking orgasams are with sexually inexperienced people, hence faking it to get sex over with

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Just watch for the lights, idiot.

I ask her after and then go shower. Last time I didn't even cum myself. Pretty sure she cried.

Can't win really. I get no enjoyment out of sex.

It's really stupid that they do this. How is anyone going to improve if they don't get honest feedback? If they keep faking it being good because it isn't good then it will never be good.
But because they do it right from the start, they dig themselves into a whole where they can't admit it later on without destabilising the entire relationship.

You can see it in their faces, cheeks get more reddish and the skin sweaty giving it a sort of velvetlike shine, it's hard to describe but once you've seen it yourself you can tell

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>How do you know if a girl cums?
Who cares if she does?

She screams out "oh god I'm cumming!"

I think that the girl in Pic as asolutley beautiful 10/10

Look at her clit, I once talked a girl into live streaming herself masturbating with a shower head on Instagram, she had her first orgasm, first her body sensed up and relaxed then tensed up again like all her muscles clenched, while that was going on she made a silly orgasming face, she didn't moan her mouth just opened and her clit kept going up and down, I imagine because she was clenching her cunt and tightening her sphincter, kinda like when you're cumming and your dick does that little bounce when you clench up and a bunch of cum just jets out... You know what I mean right? When her clit is moving up and down and her pussy is tightening/spasming, that's when's she's "cumming"

user, I think that might have been a man and that clit was actually his penis.
Sorry to break it to you. You didn't know so you're not gay, don't panic.

Unless you feel her contractions, you're pretty much down to believing her when shes saying so. Of course, if you're fingering/rubbing her and she's telling you to stop at one point and not out of annoyance or something similar, it may indicate that she's had her fill. My ex did that and it seemed genuine, at least at that time.

But yeah, there's a reason a porn film usually climaxes figuratively and literally with the man, because it's that much easier to see and way harder (not impossible, like) to fake.

This

dumb cunts

There is porn out there where you can watch girls contract, their buttholes contract too.

but it is in the minority of porn

idk about others but that's a more intense orgasm as opposed to a regular one from my experience, so not all female orgasms would look like that.

You can literally feel the vagina clamp around your dick. Sometimes it's enough to push me right out of a girl.

They're probably afraid of hurting their bf's feelings or wounding his pride
or it might just not be worth the effort of trying to teach him how to make her cum

>Uncontrollable tensing up. Legs tense up so hard they cant go white at the feet or even crackle a bit.
>Contractions inside the vagina.
>If you put your hand on her pelvic bone or near the area above her vagina, you can feel it pulsating very hard as if the heart dropped there.
>Chest arcs out and she goes completely breathless or is unable to even breathe in.
>Face goes redish, uncontrollable shivvering.
>She pulls you in very tight, even too tight and rams her nails into you way too hard.
It has to be any of those or even all of them.

Honestly when a girl reaches her peak orgasm, she will be silent and just gasping for air usually unable to move and muscles bulging out. If she can speak and say "oh fuck" "oh god" during her peak, she didn't orgasm and it just maybe felt good for her or is just lying.

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They don't have to tell him that he's shit or he doesn't know what he's doing. All they have to is to direct you to what works for them. Or while he's doing something that isn't work just say "try here" and move his hand.

If only you knew how monumentally incorrect you are. Hahahahahaha.

Yeah well she was extremely sexualy frustrated so maybe that's why.

Every girl is different seriously. For some it's easy to tell from the shakes. For others you just can't tell.

There are signs of female orgasm.
1. Convulsions and or contractions of her abdominal, pelvic and glutial muscles.

2. Toe curls and similar involuntary movements

3. Vaginal muscles/walls contract and pulse

4.She makes breakfast the next morning

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Go on /gif/ and look for a girls cumming thread. If her asshole doesn't twitch, she hasn't actually climaxed.

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Trust me.
You'll fucking know.

If a girl felt an orgasm from you she will want to cuddle up against you naked with a big smile on her face and will giggle at everything you say. If after sex she just gets up, washes, dresses up and pretends it didn't happen while going on about her day, she didn't orgasm.

You are correct. I wish there would be more porn focusing on the female experience, cuz seeing some random cock unloading on the girl you're focusing on always carries slightest hint of gayness if you cannot fully convince yourself to identify with the member in question.

Sadly, some films try imitate genuine female orgasms by having their actresses moan like a moose trapped in a bear trapped and latting them squirt fake femjuice all over the place. This also fucks up your perception once you get to try out the real deal. Not good.

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this is exactly what happens when girls cum
vagina squeezes along with the clit twitching
its nearly impossible to fake the squeezes as quickly as they happen from an orgasm

That's the thing. The average porn just warps the perception on sex. Men and women are portrayed in a retarded manner. Be it professional porn or to some extent amateur ones. Half of the time it's comedic as hell. Why do you think so many people have a stupid view on intimacy.

Basically this. Males cannot be expected to know all sweet spots of a female right out of the box, because everyone is quite different. This also holds true for the reversed case. The greatest handjob technique for one man may elicit no response or even discomfort on another. If people just took their time to talk it out instead of protecting ones imaginary pride, there would be way less frustration on both sides.

Not false, but what if you made her cum right after breakfast? Does her satisfaction linger long enough?

Nice link, both informative and effective. But it is still fakeable if you train the relevant muscles, just like the man can train his muscles to imitate his twitching. Also useful for other things than that.

Yeah, thats the sad thing. If feminists and religious extremists would stop hammering on porn for stupid reasons, there could be an interesting discussion and critique of contemporary porn that enhances sexuality for its viewers rather than trying to be some sort of surrogate.
Also for me, showings of intimacy work way better for me than regular porn shit. Having the partners mix in kissing and cuddling into their sessions not only depicts real sexuality a lot better, but its way hotter for the viewer, too. The last part is subjective, obviously.

women dont actually feel pleasure during sex. its all a show they put on to make chad feel good.

Well honestly I understand that people have various fetishes, kinks, likes and dislikes, but I agree. Prefer erotic stuff as well. I sometimes try to watch porn, but I end up laughing because it feels like i'm watching a comedic skit. Nothing more off putting that the girl yelling nonsense throughout the whole thing and the guy grunting.
I still think porn is damaging overall imo, because I noticed that the more people consume it, the more extreme ones they need to finally get off and feel something. Which isn't the case if people just have a lot of sex with their partner. But this is just my observations. There's something about porn that completely warps the mind. I guess it's like alcohol or medicine and it all depends on how or why you use it so maybe it's more of a case of abusing it that damages you instead of the content.

I wonder if you filmed your own "porn" with your partner that only you two watch and if you watch porn of others if it would have the same effects.

Also the cuddling/intimacy part might not always work. I think a lot of regular consumers of porn would just get sad if that was the case and prefer removed emotions from it all while focusing on the physical aspect only. I noticed that a lot of porn that has sweet or loving thing sin it tend to have comments that say that it completely killed their boner and mood and just got them sad. Maybe it adds to the warped view later on. Because you try to avoid intimacy as much as possible, you later do it in real life with an actual partner as well. Kinda makes me sad to think about it that we thirst for love, but we are also forcing ourselves to push it away when we see it so it doesn't hurt us.

Regarding overconsumption of porn, I'll use this (possibly overused, but idc) quote: 'Poison is in everything, and no thing is without poison. The dosage makes it either a poison or a remedy.'

So yes, while the cumbrain meme isn't valid, the overconsumption of porn can impair one's sexual life from multiple angles, such as performance anxiety, wrong expectations towards oneself and the partner, overfitting to some idealized sex that they'll just wont get. In moderation however, it is fine and taking one kink or two from it can be quite fun for both parties involved.
Also agreed that the reasons for using porn has an impact on what it does to you. In my opinion, it is better to have a no porn phase every now and then instead of noFap, just so you get to use your imagination again and you can flush the bad tendencies of porn. I'd consider this as some kind of erotic detox.

I get that it makes people sad. A lot of people not getting sex are the same people not receiving other forms of intimacy, either, which is deeply sad. Thats also the reason that sexbots will possibly never fully work. You can bust 5 Liters in the machine and still wont have the satisfaction of holdings hands with a girl, hugging her, maybe spooning her, feeling her warm body and have her say words that also warm you up on the inside.

Regarding this, I would guess that people having problems with these kinds of erotica won't find their remedy with 'cold' porn, either. It is not the overabundance of love in the movies hurting them, but the lack of love and intimacy in their own lives. Since this is consdered their private business, there is no salvation for them either, if they cannot get themselves to find a SO or working up the courage to visit a cuddling party. Also, these people are the reason Camgirls and hookers offer Girlfriend experiences these days. Weird times, these are.

>Thats also the reason that sexbots will possibly never fully work
Yeah. It will fill the physical void maybe, but there's more to a relationship than just mindless one way sex. This is also why I'm against LDR deals. It's okay if you start a relationship and move away for a few months, but it's another when your whole relationship is built around it being online. Just being near a living person, watching them breathe, observing their body language when they talk is invaluable. Be it for friends or relationships.

Sexbots wont replicate this. And that's not even counting the various small things each person can do uniquely. Lip biting, specific looks, fidgeting, arm movements, grip, warmth, breathing. All of them are minor details that really make intimacy special.

>Regarding this, I would guess that people having problems with these kinds of erotica won't find their remedy with 'cold' porn, either.
No, but it numbs the pain. Again, just like alcohol or pain killer addiction. You need to use it in bigger doses to numb yourself away from it. Because if you don't, the pain is even bigger. That's intimacy. Once you fall into the cold porn hole, intimacy that other people experience hurts a lot more than ever before

>working up the courage to visit a cuddling party
Not sure. Imo it would make a person experience minor amounts of intimacy and realize more vividly what they're missing, the cuddle party being its imitation. But I never attended, so don't know. Maybe it would force a person to improve, but I think it would make them more bitter. Again, it's more than just being with someone, hugging them or fucking them imo. It's the trust you build, the times you crumble into their arms or catch them, achieve something together that intensifies all other experiences.
>Also, these people are the reason Camgirls and hookers offer Girlfriend experiences these days.
"more connected, but also more distant than ever" sort of thing.

and yeah, kinks can be amazing actually if you both pick it up. The problem with porn is that as we both agreed, it gives you a weird predisposition on what to expect from an actual relationship.
I'm gonna go on a huge assumption stretch and say that a lot of the problems here stem from 1 bad relationship or even a relationship a person saw another person have and then an absurd amount of porn consumption that painted one or the other gender in this comical stereotype way. Be it feminist or incel or whatever. Then you proceed to join whatever flavor echo chamber you subscribe to to reinforce those opinions and bombard yourself with them. During the day while chatting, during the evening while with a dick in your hand or fingers up your crotch trying to numb all the feelings as you go. And ofcourse once you fall into this, the men and women echo chambers collide and you both feel like your view and the stereotype is correct
>women are whores
>men are disgusting pigs
Obviously there's a much larger reason on why intimacy is crashing in our society and this is just superficial thoughts. On why it's replaced with quick meaningless sex or people just unsubscribe from the whole notion all together in disgust or disappointment because of self expectations. But this can be talked on for a books worth of posts.

>Thats also the reason that sexbots will possibly never fully work.
i disagree given the more empirically derived trends being established in psychology (like mice wrestling and winning at least 30% of play dates for continued engagement) and the effectiveness of tailored advertisements using neural net like equations. if anything they may become the preferred partners due to the power of prediction when one has access to massive databases of information. the barriers would most likely be cost of bots

This wont happen for a very long time. And as you said, the cost would be extremely high based on the technology involved to make it all happen. You are talking about a sex bot that can replicate human body language without making it look uncanny, warmth, elasticity of the skin, softness. Be able to move, and predict your needs. That's a challenge on all fronts, from materials, to engineering, to AI. Even the "empty shell" sexbots that look good now cost huge amounts. The person that would need the intimacy the most most likely couldn't afford it.

yes, we seem to agree. i was disagreeing with the quoted poster who seems to think human knowledge on intimacy and socialization is much more limited than it is

Yeah. I had to turn down a LDR for this reson. She was living in my town at the time of proposing this but was basically bound to move within the next few months, so we wouldnt have had time to build a bond storng enough to endure the distance.
Yup, these little details within body language is something that cannot be replicated and it is also something that possibly plays a huge role in whether two partners manage to stay together for a long time, because they need to fully embrace these little things.

>No, but it numbs the pain
Yes, they fall into a cycle of trying to plaster their inner void with ever growing amounts of ersatz material. Of course htat wont work, so a vicious cycle is building up, leading to great unhappiness in the end.
Regarding cuddling parties, I see the problems you mention. People crave exclusivity, the idea that the one who cuddles you does so exclusively. It is an extension of monogamy. I wonder if people who get to know each other during those parties can use the subliminal bonds they formed through cuddling to start dating if they are single or if the brain blocks this the same way one night stands are being blocked. But you are right, that it is more than just doing the act of cuddling/sex/whatever that brings people together on an emotional level. What i am curious about is whether it can serve as a spark to set some emotional bonding in motion. On a side note. thinking about having someone crumbling into my arms or viced versa makes me remember my ex gf in both a good way and a sad way.
>more connected, but more distant
Yes, absolutely. The Irony is, that with all the available sex and other types of human interaction through the power of the internet and social media, people isolate the core of their being.

> TBC

>How do you know if a girl cums?
she rates me in the satisfaction column in the consent papers afterwards
t. swede

>pussy grips/clamps and "convulses"
>toes and back curling
>moaning and breath caught in chest
>fluttering eyes

t. girl who's made herself cum many times

Being caught in the vicegrip of a girl cumming is pretty top tier

this is a guy who thinks fanfics are real life.

you can't tell when a girl does, and if you're doing it right you don't care.

>cont`d
Love and emotions has become part of the all-encompassing competition we are part of nowadays. Instead of just being happy to have a loving partner, we find ourselves under pressure to always either find a ever so slightly better partner or being afraid to be replaced for the same reason. Loving and being loved is just the confirmation or denial of ones value on the market. Even without whatever MGTOW do have to say about this, it is a great problem in my view.

>a lot of the problems here stem from 1 bad relationship or even a relationship a person saw another person have and then an absurd amount of porn consumption that painted one or the other gender in this comical stereotype way

Agreed. Confirmation bias and self-fulfilling prophecies have a lot of impact here. And one bad relationship, especially if it ended on a sour note can really push one to the extreme camps of feminists/incels/MGTOW or whatever. On top of that, one tends to over-romanticize past relationships and compares them to anything one currently has. This complicates new relationships even further.
And you are of course correct that this is a subject than coud be discussed ad infinitum, since it lays at the heart of human interaction. Love and intimacy is as essential to human life, survival and reproduction as general social interaction and sexuality is. I think we can agree that there is a massive shift underway and no one really has an idea how to handle this. We have seen the beginnings in Japan with the you celibacy syndrome. It will soon arrive in the west. That also makes japan the testing ground for any new ideas on that topic, starting with sexbots but going way deeper than them.

> TBC

She has contractions. In theory the male is sposed to bust at the same time so the contractions will aid the semen into the baby hole. So unless you're finna pay alimony for the rest of your life you don't let that bitch cum ever. Orgasm denial for the rest of her days

>I get no enjoyment out of sex
Let's play spot the circumcised mutt

the pussy twitches/throbs

>cont'd

Yes, machine learning and high performance computers will be able to create behaviours that is tailored to any ones liking, but the catch is, that humans often have undiscovered desires and the machine can only learn from something it can notice in some pattern or another. If the person the bot-AI is being trained for never exhibits his preferences due to not being aware of them, the machine cannot pick it up. In essence, the but can give the human what they want, but not what they need on a subliminal level.
The question of affordability is a very interesting one, however. Considering what i wrote is wrong and Sexbots (or rather Lovebots as their domain will expand rapidly with demand) can fulfill all their owners needs perfectly, It could possibly divide society into two groups. One consisting of totally unbound single persons getting their needs fulfilled by a machine and people without the means to acquire one such robot on the other hand. The latter group would possibly still live by today's paradigms, i.e. dating, hooking up, getting into relationships etc. This may suggest that procreation in the higher classes of society will be less of a natural occurence over time, due to people normally not having human partners. This could be the seed of a real divide between people. Or otherwise, well off people tend to die off without any offspring more. The underclasses however will still have the problems they have today, so they will still be unhappy and there will still be incels and whatnot, so psychological tensions will continue to rise. Of course, unrest will break out over different things, but an underlying dissatisfaction with the state of affairs will also stem from the feeling of lonelyness in some people. Is this problem is identified as such, there could very well be some states trying to introduce solutions to this, also to ensure stable population development.

> TBC

I am indeed but not American or even Jewish just some medical thing.

>cont'd
The reason is, that no state could afford great fluctuations of their population. Considering what china is doing with their social credit system, there could for example be programs to encourage people to find a partner. A modernized version of arranged partnerships, sponsored by the state this time, if you will. This of course is merely far speculation. Still, societies will change and there will be some sort of reaction in one way or another.

Overlooked this post before, so in short: yes, these things are hard to be replicated. Without a massive price drop, only like overworked manager type people will be qable to afford them and even then, lovebots still wouldnt be able to provide them with a family, since they cannot give birth and they would still be doubting the machine, because whatever it does, it doesnt do of its own accord, but because of its programming, while love stems from free will.

This is a guy who has fucked one girl in his life--a hooker--in missionary with the lights off, and has given up on chasing relationships since.

Sorry had to go away suddenly user, but just wanted to say that I enjoyed our conversation and that I completely agree with everything you said in these posts. It was nice seeing someone who thinks like you on the board and thanks for all the input and sharing your thoughts. Hopefully we can chat again in some thread if similar topic arises. Wishing things go well for you.

Alle the best to you, too, user. Hope i can recognize it's you when i see your posts next time around. Till then, take care.

except you can control when your pussy grips someone too (you can also manually tense your pelvis so it grips it all the way through). i fake orgasms all the time by doing this

i'm definitely a girl but i can tell you're a guy who doesn't know how a vagina works

>real life tomoko
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Man just research the physiological indicators of orgasm.
Flushed face, muscle spasms and things like that. If you can't tell then youre fuckin autistic. Then again most men are fucking psychotic and the moreso they are the higher chance they have of getting laid.
Having sex was the decision I regret most in my life. It ruined all future potential for enjoying life that I had

Ooohhhh la la a fucking girl holy amazement

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I hate when women fake sex, it's super unattractive. That's why I like when women take initiative. Cowgirl position is one of my fetishes for that reason. That means women take the initative and move on their own accord.

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desu if its a hookup you don't wanna see again its way easier to fake nutting and end sex when you dont want to be there anymore. it's scary to say no for women, when if a man takes it badly they could get killed easily

How could having sex ruin any potential enjoyment you may have in life? I mean, I hope you weren't raped or anything like that.

Would you honestly fuck somebody that might as well kill you for saying the wrong thing? I had my reservations. Plus, crazy people dont always wear a cock n balls but sometimes come equipped with a vag as well

just so you know cowgirl sucks for women. you feel the dick way less than in superior positions like doggy or prone plus you spend more time/mental/physical energy doing all the work than taking it in so you can have an orgasm. girls who claim to like cowgirl aren't actually having orgasms and are very likely faking it with you

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user....
Damn you and your experience

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What about mating press? I want to do that to a qt so badly. It's my favorite.

You know how when you cum your dick kinda pulses? Basically the inverse of that

She shakes like a fucking cellphone.