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What are the political views of Jow Forums ?
Elijah Williams
Ryan Reyes
Here's mine orginalinito
Nicholas Walker
if originality was an ice cream flavor it'd be Brown
Thomas Parker
Guess I am a radical centrist. Everyone should by law have at least one free firearm though, even the grabbers.
t. Jow Forumsommando
Nolan Morris
Fug, forgot to post the pic.
Luke Garcia
Let me guess - you are from Texas ?
Elijah Lopez
first question and I'm already lost what the fuck is transhumanism
Luis Walker
>transhumanism
en.wikipedia.org
Josiah Hernandez
No, the Hershey-Kielbasa Reich known as PA. Arizona would be better for guns anyways, Texas is a lot of talk but not nearly as cowboy as it once was.
Becoming a cyborg, editing your genes, that kind of thing.
Tyler Smith
welp here it is folks
i don't like when they insert reasoning into the question. like yes i think abortions should be shamed but it's because antinatalism not because muh virginhood or some shit
Jordan Carter
Generally identify as social liberal
Elijah Nelson
Fuck fascists and fuck neoliberals
Cooper Edwards
This. Liberals must kick out the neoliberals.
Liam Gray
Here y'all go
Nationalist Monarcho-Socialism with German Characteristics ftw
Kevin Roberts
hey, we share 2/3 traits. I'm
Dominic Ross
Eco-friendly. kind of
Lucas Barnes
I dont even know how to comment this .
Andrew Morgan
Uhm, what does this make me?
Jonathan Lopez
a dumbass. inorganically
Zachary Scott
Well this is certainly news to me because I never tried to classify myself before.
Easton Lee
>letting a fake and gay website tell you what your ideologies are
Jason Cook
Equality - Ecology - Humanity
Lucas Watson
Strong nationalism on the one hand, and the tendency to "communism" on the other hand, i.e. the test of typically left-wing ideas such as: high taxation of companies and the richest people, high share of government in the economy and education... This is quite a strange result
Gabriel Williams
The only people that will respond to this are normal cattle and shills. Go away.
Adrian King
>there are people here who aren't NatSoc
Caleb James
I'm dumb, so I'm neutral about some things seeing that I don't understand what they ask.
Levi Jenkins
Typical hamburgers eatears.
Brody Ward
Exactly, i don't think it fits any established political ideology that i know of. Do I just invent one instead?
Adrian Barnes
>progressism
Is that a picture of a rocket or is it supposed to symbolise a penis being cut off?
Wyatt Walker
Its symbol of rocket.
Hudson Cook
Looking out for humanity, even if that survey is just more data on me.
Nicholas Kelly
Maybe you should establish your own political movement.
Dylan Gray
Look at Stalin's "Socialism in One Country", seems like a blend of nationalism and communism in some ways.
Ayden Rodriguez
This is example of real leftist.
Have you thought about moving to Korea or China?
Brayden Watson
That'd be pretty awesome but I don't have the notoriety to make it happen.
Will do frendo, thanks.
Luis Jones
Are you French? I was wondering if it designs your flag using your country's flag.
Wyatt Bell
fuck commies and fuck starbucks socialists
Lucas Barnes
youre a fascist my friend. embrace it
Dylan Young
>fuck commies
Meanwhile in test...
Julian Johnson
Here is my test, enjoy
Joseph Long
I found a rare specimen of a pragmatist :D
Jason Harris
theres a difference between marxian socialism and non gay socialism. i subscribe to a nationa branch of it if you get me
Colton Lopez
This retarded test thinks I'm a commie because I don't wank the free market and muh corporations. I'm actually a philosophical egoist.
Also, this flag looks gay as fuck.
Ian Jones
Same as last time, is that a good thing?
Colton Richardson
>the gaps
I assume that you don't vote
Robert Miller
It asked all the wrong questions for the support of ecology. We're not killing nature and trying to keep it alive with us for some spiritual reason. it's the other way around, nature will outlive humanity, and we need to preserve it's most useful state to further humanity.
Wyatt Hughes
politics are for cucks and normalfags
Julian Hughes
>All the pragmatics
What the fuck, how are you all so based?
Brody James
here's mine
what does this flag mean
Ryan Wright
god damn it forgot tye fucking pitcure
Andrew Myers
Zachary Cooper
I just want the American Republic back as it was before those faggots Lincoln and FDR ruined everything
Caleb Wood
>Claims to want to abolish capitalism
>Doesn't abolish private ownership
>Doesn't abolish the bourgeoisie
>Doesn't abolish capital
Yeah, dude. Sounds completely legit to me. Totally not a movement used by german capitalists to strengthen their power and cause imperialist war.
Ryder Bailey
Don't forget who some of the first people this man went for were, either. You know, the German socialists and communists. Surely they'd all have been his best friends, hmm?
Gavin Gray
Im just a libtard who supports Tulsi Gabbard for president. I know she wont get the nomination so I probably wont vote in 2020.
Blake Rivera
original comment unrequired
Jayden Morales
>Liberal
>That much regulationnism
Lincoln Flores
You are a tard indeed, Tulsi Gabbard is a fucking moron who just rides off the coattails of her dad. She's a hard core cocksucking braindead who can't think for herself for shit. If you're gonna go lib at least support one of the half decent candidates ie Bernie, Warren, or Yang.
Jackson Lewis
Anyone who is not a Nazi is a libtard according to Jow Forums.
Ayden Gonzalez
They pretty much would like you to believe that's the case. Their ideology is best suited to argue against liberalism. When arguing against marxists, they don't stand a chance, so they prefer you don't even take them into consideration.
Jack Flores
Hate to break it to you, but "liberals" in America haven't been liberal since the 60s.
Oliver Cox
Here is it man I think it's awesome.
Nathaniel Kelly
I side more with the strasserite wing user. anyway thats a retarded take. nationalism goes against the bourgeois cosmopolitan worldview. unlike communism, which is just capitalism of the working class as spengler said
Ayden James
Nationalism is also regularly used by the bourgeoisie whenever useful. Particularly for imperialist expansion, but also to divide the working class, and to keep a reserve of migrant labour. In the case of nazism, it was literally this, but with slave labour instead.
Asher Jones
not sure how i feel about my results
original comment
Asher Thompson
>It is not acceptable that human actions should lead to the extinction of species.
on the second one, but its obvious these questions have a left wing bias. what deranged shit is gonna say no to this? but its a loaded question because its gonna assume me saying yes means that tax dollars should be spent on saving some shit species.
Jace Wood
>Its time for redpill.
True communism, never existed in the world. We can talk about communists -people with a certain definition of communism, views and possibly communal ownership, in a state reality which has as much to do with communism as design space ferries with chicken farms.Even
the communist government, composed of communists, does not determine the communist regime and sooner on the more or less real or more or less utopian version of socialism.
To be honest communism has never been built, maybe apart from the Sultanate of Brunei and the United Arab Emirates, where thanks to the small size of the country and with large oil deposits, a system was introduced that the citizen gets what he needs from power and for free. But even there there are class differences and money,which in communism should not be existing.
Jackson Wright
>regularly used
Oh yes, I also love consumerist nationalism. you do realize that the free movement of capital also causes free movement of labor? That is inherently anti-nationalist. Bourgeois individualist class-egoism (same goes for bolshevik class-egoism) is anti-national. Fascism is above class interests and fights for the good of the nation as a whole. read up on corporatism.
>communism
yes I know about muh not true communism. Thing is that Marx was just an intellectual with no connection to the real world. His ideology is strictly utopian and thus has not been executed properly. Stalin, as a man of action, realized this and in my opinion turned rootless bolshevism into a Slavic form of nationalism.
Jacob Gonzalez
>the free movement of capital also causes free movement of labor
This is false. One thing does not imply the other.
>Bourgeois individualist class-egoism (same goes for bolshevik class-egoism) is anti-national
Yeah. Only fetishists like you care about nations. Everybody else only cares about the use they can make of them.
Trust me, the bourgeoisie can still make a lot of us of nations. They're not going to disappear any time soon, nor will they tolerate the disappearance of their reserve of migrant labour by opening the borders. The opposition to open borders today is as much of a bourgeois movement as liberalism.
>Fascism is above class interests and fights for the good of the nation as a whole
I know about the theory of corporativism. In practice it helps the bourgeoisie to better control the proletariat. In every fascist country the big bourgeoisie benefited while the workers had their organizations destroyed. Unironically learn basic marxism. You can't be "above class interests". Capital influences all that it touches.
Liam James
>This is false. One thing does not imply the other
When you move all production to China, does that benefit the native land? Does that benefit your countrymen? no, it benefits the individualist bourgeoisie who try destroy national autarchy for individual greed. Why are the bourgs so fond of immigration? It will replace all national identity, lower wages, force countrymen to now compete INTERNATIONALLY and eventually will turn the whole of humanity into one grey mass with no identity other than consumerist and materialist garbage. In Marxism the mass would simply be red. The bourgs have tried to undermine the nation since the Reformation
arktos. com/ 2018/10/03/the-left-the-right-and-social-revolt-part-1
Nations and ethnicities are the pillars of all societies. Its silly to say a spic will sympathise more with a viet just because of their vocation. Marxists and cappies, both with their materialist worldview, struggle to realize that ethnic tensions in diverse countries like the USA and Ethiopia arent socioeconomical. The populist bourgs who >oppose
immigration are just liberals 2 decades behind. muh just do it legally
Under corporatism you have to earn your position in society. the manager will be reduced to simply a custodian who can be replaced by the state if he is incompetent. Remember, Fascism started as a trad syndicalist movement in France. Just like most fascists, I used to be a tankie.
Blake White
based, except for punitive justice
Mason Nelson
Basically a nationalist but not the shitty kind
Instead of
>every other country should be nuked also ethnostate good
Im more
>i absolutely fucking love my country with every bit of my heart
And also
>fuck any sort of excessive authority
>fuck all commies
>especially fuck fascists with a .50 cal
Adrian Allen
>Does that benefit your countrymen? no, it benefits the individualist bourgeoisie
You are arguing against opponents in your own head. I said the bourgeoisie will use nationalism when it suits them, I didn't say the bourgeoisie was inherently nationalist.
>Why are the bourgs so fond of immigration?
In the appropriate doses, it can be used to keep around a reserve of labour that implies less costs.
>It will replace all national identity
The bourgeoisie literally does not care about national identity either way.
>In Marxism the mass would simply be red
You should try actually reading Marx. He wrote about alienation and how the bourgeoisie was replacing everything sublime with mere commodities and material relations. He was against it, and thought only socialism could reconnect humanity with itself and its culture.
>Its silly to say a spic will sympathise more with a viet just because of their vocation
They did, though. In the early 20th century, class solidarity was common, because the socialists had a big influence in the labour movements.
>struggle to realize that ethnic tensions in diverse countries like the USA and Ethiopia arent socioeconomical
Literally something you imagined. Marxists are aware of tribalism.
>some stuff about corporativism
It literally cannot work. As long as the bourgeoisie owns the means of production, they will have the advantage in society, and will use it to protect their interests. Every single fascist country had this, and I have yet to hear a single one of you propose solutions to that problem. Just denialism.
Jaxson Young
>'fuck excessive authority'
>is bootlicking capitalist
hmmmmmmmmm doubt it
Kevin Taylor
waaaaahhhhh working for mr. golbenstein is the same as living under a commie government waaaahhhh
Jack Lewis
that was longer than I thought it'd be
Blake Scott
What ever it says, i just want the older kaiser back
Isaiah Ramirez
I seem to be getting more neutral over time
Jaxson Anderson
Autism 100%
John Fisher
>claim that i see an issue with monopolization
>anyone with a brain would assume obviously and correctly i enjoy the free market without monopolization as that is the thing that halts it the most because with a monopoly competition within a market wont happen and it will stagnate
Let me reword it for you sir chapocel mcTankie
>im excessively in support of a free market that avoids monopolization and rewards smaller businesses creating a competitive market state and driving innovation instead of disney owning everything in your house
Happy?
Jonathan Smith
Every property owner who has workers under him is quite literally a dictator to them, so your argument doesn't work if you claim to be against excessive authority. Just admit you are only against excessive state authority, but you think workers deserve to be exploited.
Jason Smith
>the bourgeoisie will use nationalism when it suits them,
It never does. They have continuously fought against state regulations in the name of liberty throughout the history as said in the article.
>In the appropriate doses, it can be used to keep around a reserve of labour that implies less costs.
way to prove my point. they only care about money, and as long as the non-materialist, national and traditional structures (obstacles) fall apart, thdy will be happy.
>The bourgeoisie literally does not care about national identity either way.
again. national identity (or anything non-material) is literally an obstacle to bourgeois free market internationalism.
>Marx
He and cappies share the exact worldview except one supports the workers and one the bourgs. Both ideologies were born in the same Zeitgeist. Materialist, internationalist and liberal. Man has no greater meaning than economy and acquisition of this bread. Then what? Fascism gives man a meaning outside of this gay material benefit.
>internationalism
Just like how it was in Austria Hungary, huh? The Socdems were very much in trouble because of these ethnic tensions between Krauts and Czechs. They started to form their own trade unions, which also gave birth to the National Socialist ideology. Ethnicity will always divide people. Even Stalin knew that the multinational country would only work with obvious Russian supremacy, just like the Tsar did it.
>tribalism
but refuse to acknowledge its importance and its root - ethnicity. Marxists believe culture forms after the mode of production (which is true after the capitalist material era, modifying family for their material benefit) when its actually formed after ethnicity. The native culture is almost entirely gone in Latin America due to massive race mixing and thus loss of national identity.
cont
Cooper King
>corporatism
They would be nationalized into socially owned corporations, where the manager, the state (represents the consumers), and workers decide things together. Fascism believe in the inherent inequality of man (but still believe in equal opportunity) and because of this believes in an organic hierarchy. It doesnt mean dictatorship of the manager (Capitalism) nor the proletariat (communism).
The point is to reduce class influence as much as possible while maintaining natural hierarchy. Workers and every vocation has direct representation in the government, which is something socialist countries havent seemed to have accomplished.
As a strasserite though I agree that Mussolini (and Hitler) were too lenient on the rootless aristocracy, who were very bourgeois in nature. Im going to sleep now though. nice chat regardless, cheers user
Henry Martinez
>admit thing you dont believe in
>say thing that i want you to say
Also
>someone who has workers is a dictator
Youre fucking delusional
So let me restate what i said and give further justification as to why i think so
You of course wont believe a word i say because that's your thing i guess
I 100% mean it when i say i hate monopolization as it fucks everything up and puts the economy in states like its in right now
Why do epipens cost so much? Monopolization. 1 company owns exclusive rights and lobbies to keep them
What happens if they didnt?
Companies would pop up making epipens and since there are multiple, they wouldnt be able to price gouge as theyd lose business to someone with lowet prices. Now epipens go for near manufacturing cost.
Same thing with anything
Monopolization is just asking for economic stagnation
Then again i doubt tankies know much about economics as an ideology based around the lack of an economy doesnt seem like one to focus on such a thing often. Given your prerogative and biases i think thats even more the case
Sorry that everyone you disagree with isnt some corporate bootlicker, id rather see 20 family owned shops than 1 walmart, if you dont like that i guess go to your fee-fee space
Christian Jackson
>It never does
I've already pointed out several reasons why they might use it: imperialism, division of the proletariat, and cheap labour. They also sometimes use it for tax havens.
>They have continuously fought against state regulations
Nice pirouette, faggot. Nationalism and state regulations are not the same thing.
>way to prove my point
You don't understand. If they completely open the borders, they can no longer get that cheap labour, because there will be no special legal threats against migrant workers.
>they only care about money
Yes.
>as long as the non-materialist, national and traditional structures (obstacles) fall apart, thdy will be happy
They literally don't care about them unless they can use them. The american and brazilian bourgeoisie constantly use evangelical christianity as a tool, despite it being a non-materialist thing.
>national identity (or anything non-material) is literally an obstacle to bourgeois free market internationalism
It isn't. If anything it helps to keep the migrant workers down, and has no bearing on international trade.
>He and cappies share the exact worldview except one supports the workers and one the bourgs
That leads to some pretty massive policy differences, my dude.
>Man has no greater meaning than economy and acquisition of this bread
Marx literally argued against this, you ignorant fuck. He was already talking about alienation way before fascism became a thing. marxists.org
>Just like how it was in Austria Hungary, huh?
Yeah, imperialism is totally the same thing as internationalism.
>but refuse to acknowledge its importance
Yeah. It's not that big of a deal. Class solidarity doesn't imply workers from different countries even interacting with each other.
>its actually formed after ethnicity
That is fucking retarded. Culture forms due to the material conditions that people is subjected to.
Ryan Moore
I know you hate monopolies, but, to the worker, there is no difference between the tyranny of the big company, and that of the small company. Often times big companies will even offer better conditions, while small companies will try to exploit them more. Your opposition isn't to tyranny in itself. You just don't like certain kinds of tyranny (like that of the state), and you don't like monopolies.
Dominic Nguyen
>not a nationalist
>that much regulationism
disgusting and retard pilled
Daniel Thompson
>Implying anyone here ever read a book on political science. We just want a place to say nigger and kike without getting arrested.
Mason Nelson
Here's my goofy shit, national capitalists rise up
Thomas Myers
I feel based right now
Ryder Morgan
>Hehe I'm a capitalist
>What.. n..n..no.. you can't do business with those other guys over there. They aren't American.
Yeah, no.
Jace Russell
>believes capitalism fuels innovation
lol
Brody Garcia
>what's that? You don't want to compete with the wageslaves in China? You're not a true capitalist goy!
Fuck off lolbertarian.
Nathaniel Bennett
Why isn't everyone NATSOC?
Gavin Ortiz
I just listened to joe Rogan interview Bernie sanders so I felt a little more socialist than normal
Connor Brooks
Such an original comment. Who here /leftypol/?
Nicholas Adams
lel has the politics of a techno union revolutionary
Jayden Morgan
6'4" pillar of the patriarchy coming through
Juan Ramirez
should i feel ashamed of myself bruh :S
Liam Johnson
Ya, low test. Should go see a doctor.