Give me one good reason why I should stop masturbating...

I masturbate about once or twice a month, and mostly out of boredom
am I safe?

Do you have sex otherwise? If not you may have low t.

dont listen to these fucking chumps telling you not to masturbate. all of em are just self hating dudes who think masturbation is the cause of many of their problems. as long as ur not an addict like you jerk off everyday then ur good

Truth dhdjfhdjdkdjdjf

Here's some articles on the subject of zinc and masturbation. Personally, it feels a lot better when you only fap once or twice a week
medicalnewstoday.com/articles/316241.php
naturallyhard.net/zinc-and-ejaculation/

Tell me which one you want a source for and I'll post it. Each one has studies I can link you to.
and yes, your body can tell the difference. Just being near a woman increases healthy hormone function. The act of sex produces oxytocin as well, any negative hormonal effects that masturbation cause are nullified with actual sex.
You still suffer from nutrient loss after sex, but if you take a zinc supplement you'll be fine. I can have sex everyday and not get burnt out if I'm taking a zinc supplement daily. If I'm not taking a zinc supplement you start to get pretty burnt out and dim after daily sex for a while.

>IF YOU DON'T LOVE TO COOM, YOU'RE A CHUMP

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Not op but im gonna need you to cite sources for literally everything you posted.
All of it just sounds like made up bro science to propagate the nofap meme.

>yes, your body can tell the difference
>any negative hormonal effects that masturbation cause are nullified with actual sex
>You still suffer from nutrient loss after sex

So what I said is true. I don't think that just "being around" a woman makes that much of a difference. They don't have some magical aura that saves your precious nutrients from being coomed out. You are still orgasming and your body is still producing Oxytocin even if you're alone. Everything you've said (especially the balding meme) sounds completely fabricated.

Jerking off every day is normal. If you're not jerking off at least once or twice a day, then there's something wrong with your dick. You should not be that sexually sedated.

A very sore dick from edging all night

that's false, you don't produce oxytocin by masturbating.
It acts on the same mechanism that stops you from being able to tickle yourself. Your body knows.

>Just being near a woman increases healthy hormone function
What the fuck are you talking about

It's normal on Jow Forums, it's not normal among healthy adult men who aren't sexual deviants that depend on masturbation to get a dopamine fix.
pic related. The average man does not masturbate everyday.

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Being in bed with an attractive woman boosts testosterone and oxytocin, which are healthy hormones that negate negative side effects of orgasm/ejaculation.
If you're masturbating, you do not receive a testosterone or oxytocin boost, so it disrupts hormone cycles and affects you negatively.

You should stop masturbating when you feel it has a negative effect on your life.

desu i just do it once a week because i enjoy cumming huge thick loads. so i can drink it

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Yeah I've seen these studies, they are bullshit. I used to ask almost everyone I knew in high school how much they jerked off and 1-2 times a day was the norm with many jacking off 3-5 times a day.

This is just something that sounds like it makes sense and people have just kind of run with it. The logic here is kind of like flat earth logic or maybe more accurately anti-vax.

>Zinc retention
without sources this means nothing. Why cant someone just eat more food with high zinc content? Why cant the body just produce more. Why is zinc even a good thing?
>self discipline
Closest thing to an argument in this thread. Still, there are other ways to teach yourself discipline, if you need to at all.

>that's false, you don't produce oxytocin by masturbating.
Oxytocin is produced by orgasming, regardless of how it is achieved. Whether you're getting swallowed by a tight young teen or you're beating your own cock in your dorm room, an orgasm is an orgasm.

This shows that about 40% of men aged 18-24 and about 44% of men aged 24-29 masturbate several times per week. You have literally disproved yourself.

Coomer, cumbrain, and nofap are memes made and believed by the same type of retards who latch on to any kind of dumb idea to feel like they're part of something. You're listening to the same type of person who browses /x/, believes in horoscopes, and practices mgtow.
Here's some nice effects that long term nofap does:
>reduced libido
>reduced penis size
>increased risk of prostate cancer
>self-induced erectile dysfunction
>an overwhelming desire to shitpost the same meme like a retard to anything remotely mentioning sex or the female body as your entire purpose in life.
By all means though, do continue putting yourself in a mental chastity cage.

It's like any other drug really... Porn. Doing any drug often and repeatedly enough will fuck you. If you do whack off try and make it a 2 weekly occurrence.

Why do people still have trouble with this?

Ejaculating/masturbating = good and natural
Looking at porn to do is = unnatural and fucks up your brain.

Fapping is ejaculating so if it was bad then three would be no reproduction. It's the porn that people should stay away from

only real downside is that normal porn wont get you off. and you start to seek more fucked up shit.

>reduced libido
false.
>Reduced penis size
False. My flaccid and erect length has increased
>increased risk of prostate cancer
This study found masturbating INCREASES risk of prostate cancer.
webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20090127/masturbation-and-prostate-cancer-risk#1
>self-induced erectile dysfunction
Porn and masturbation have been linked to erectile dysfunction. Not masturbating has not been linked to erectile dysfunction.
You sound like a coomer who is triggered that the latest meme personally attacks you.

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While I'm currently in agreement with you regarding the non-existent health benefits of not masturbating, you're going to need to back up the claims you're making.

>It's the porn that people should stay away from
I'm more inclined to believe that regular consumption of hardcore pornography can have SOME SORT OF negative mental effects on young men, but that leaves the loophole of porn thats not so hardcore. What about light hentai? What about upskirts and lewds from r/gonewild? Should we really be treating all of these things the same?

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Because this is you

youtube.com/watch?v=UnkBUTheIC0

If people stopped fapping, reproduction would increase.
You know what I feel like doing during nofap? Finding a real woman and getting her pregnant.
You know what I feel like doing after jacking off alone in my bedroom? Playing vidya, eating a pizza, and taking a nap.
I've never felt like going to find a woman immediately after I just got done fapping. It's pretty much the main reason men fap, is to reduce their urge to impregnate a woman so they can focus on something else.

So your piece of shit high school is indictive of society?

>An orgasm is an orgasm, you can't say it's only half.

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So what you're really saying is that you abstain from masturbating because you want to force yourself (due to the innate desire to orgasm) to orgasm through sex with a woman. That is a very different claim than "I don't masturbate because it makes me more productive, highest testosterone, etc".

Here is my source: JUST TRUST ME BRO

Cope.. Porn is a symptom which men who can't get women partake in. I know chads who whack off daily. Just like You have some druggies with women and some without. Watching porn won't change whether you can get a gf or not. If women aren't making any effort to get with you then that's telling. Porn won't effect that. Porn just helps sedating virgins so they don't go on killing sprees.

Honestly I think the same thing you do dude. But I just started nofap. I figure if fapping is something I can't help but do I might aswell cut it out.

It messes with your general dopamine levels, mental health. Unless you are doing it infrequently. If you are addicted though, it's like fucking smoking or weed or heroin and all that type of stuff.

Why are you trying to pass your faggy anecdotal evidence as fact faggot? When I had a GF I was actually fapping more

>Porn is a symptom which men who can't get women partake in
This is not based in any evidence. Anecdotally, the Chad types that I have spoken with consume just as much porn as the loser types that I have spoken with. And again I state, you have provided no sources for your claims. If you're going to claim that NoFap gives superpowers then you better have something to demonstrate this other than "well I just think it does". There are clear and established benefits to masturbating. Show me one scientifically proven benefit of NOT masturbating.

No in the past I had a LTR that lasted 4 years and we had sex very often. After that ended I started hooking up with tinder girls and realized I wasn't feeling fulfilled or gaining anything from it, I actually felt weaker. Then I deleted tinder and started fapping to nuru massage videos and felt even worse.
Obviously I realized that the problem was I was ejaculating too much and it was making me feel depressed and weak. Since then, in 2016, I decided no more porn, no masturbation, and no casual sex.
Since then my hair loss reversed, my depression is nearly gone, my anxiety is nearly gone, I'm much more confident and I feel much happier in general.
Try it.
I still get urges, but when I do I just play guitar or go for a hike and the urges go away.

> porn just sedated virgins to prevent them going on killing sprees

Now that is a good reason to stop fapping user. First good reason in the thread.

More energy
Less depressed
More confidence
Happier
Less anxiety
Increased social skills
Highly motivated to succeed
Highly motivated to do more
Highly motivated to approach real women
Increased fat loss
Increased muscle growth
Improved workouts
Improved sporting performance
Deeper voice
Improved skin
Thicker hair
Increased hair growth (Facial, body and hair)
Less sleep required
Brighter eyes
Clearer skin
Improved body language
More alpha male behaviours
Increased attention from women
More respect from men
Improved memory
Removal of brain fog
Smarter
A cure to hair loss
Better sex
Thicker/longer penis
Stronger
Aloof attitude
High sex drive
Controlled aggression
Feelings of power
Improved relationships
Improved immunity
Increased stamina

post more COOM material

You have a jizz dispenser aka a girlfriend or friend with benefits.

I proved two sources to another guy, but here's the relation to fapping and zinc loss You can take zinc supplements and fap if you want, but having too much zinc is toxic for your body, so it's a fine line . Just like zinc, there's a fine line of fapping and not fapping

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> Annnnndd my source is.... JUST TRUST ME. BRO.

I'm asexual and still get random erections despite only ever fapping twice in my life. The part about shitposting, however, is entirely true.

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Dude I said I know chads who whacked off daily, I'm agreeing with you. What I was saying was that if an 'incel' is whacking off daily normies blame that on the porn. But in fact the reason he was whacking off daily is because he couldn't get a girlfriend in the first place and has nothing better to do with his time but porn. It's like just be confident bro. Just stop porn bro. All these are bullshit excuses for why being an incel is the man's fault. Women just aren't interested in some men nowadays , unless they win the lottery haha.

of all the fake news on the fake internet yours is very fake news

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My high school was a great place. No bullying, no fights. Most of the would-be loner loser guys were completely accepted by the student body. We had no "chads and stacies" or "popular crowd" that ran things. 90% of the guys lost their virginity before graduation including the skinny, nerdy, autistic guys. Some of the skinniest, nerdiest guys I knew got laid when they were 14 or 15. I didn't even think girls were attracted to chad type guys more than any other guy until I left high school. All the girls wanted to date instead of sleep around but were horny enough that they wanted to fuck every chance they got if they dated you so the people who coupled up would often have sex 2-4 times a day. We had no barriers to any kind of conversation. You could say nigga or make any joke or ask any question about sex you wanted and nobody cared. If you objected to that kind of stuff people would call you a goody two shoes. We had a few SJWs but people didn't pay them much attention.

Goddamn I miss that place every day. I can tell you for certain it was no piece of shit.

OOOOOOHHHH AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH IMMMM COOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMIIIIINNNNNG

COOMIES EVERYWHERE MY KEYBOARD IS ALL STICKY FROM COOOOOM

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>I need the (((scientists))) who tell me that porn and masturbating everyday is healthy to tell me that porn and masturbation are unhealthy. otherwise I won't believe it
Literal cumbrain logic. The powers that be will never tell you masturbation and porn are healthy. Porn, sex appeal, an entire generation of coomers, all these things benefit the economy and grip they have on their societies. You think they want a generation of Adolf Hitlers to rise up with testicles gathering dust and use their primal rage to fight back?
You're hopeless.

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soundcloud.com/user-735086019/no-masturbation-tiger-woods-stripper
Start at 5:10, Trump says he never masturbates.

>masturbating = heroin use = marijuana use = cigarette smoking
wew

Serious question I find daily porn use fucking reduces my level of morning wood. Anyone else experience this? Anyone know why? How long do I have to no fap to get back random erections and reduce ED?

>unhealthy
origino

They all screw with your dopamine. Cigs, heroin, COOMING! DAMN DUDE I SOMETIMES FEEL DEPRESSED AFTER I COOM. SO DESPERATE FOR THE SECOND CCOOOMIINNNGGGG!!!!

I get massive morning wood every morning. I started doing nofap in 2016.
I don't know when it starts during my sleep, but I swear I probably have a full erection the entire time. By the time I wake up my dick is stiff as a redwood tree. My dick has also gotten bigger during nofap.

and hitler had no vices

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> literally admitting to the source being... JUST TRUST ME BRO, SCIENTISTS ARE DUMB!

Very promising user, how long did the morning wood take to come back after starting no fap? Days/ weeks / months?

This was posted
webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20090127/masturbation-and-prostate-cancer-risk#1
Masturbation was found to increase risk of prostate cancer in men who masturbate frequently in their teens and 20s.
The only men whose prostates benefit from masturbation were 50+ year old men who were probably coomers their entire lives anyway

Days. If you don't get morning wood, you're cooming too much.
Start by fapping less and less, eventually stop fapping completely.
It's near impossible to go cold turkey if you're a coomer, it's much more realistic to reduce how often you fap until the addiction subsides

Solution is obvious then.

Masturbate to your heart's content in your teens and 20s. Then...

Masturbate to your heart's content in your 50s, 60s, and 70s.

Cancels out the effects of jerking off in your teens.

I'm interested in the one about hypofrontality

>Just trust me

???????????????? Nice post. I'm asking for one piece of science that demonstrates that masturbation is a net negative. Just one piece of evidence.

>My dick has also gotten bigger during nofap
Because you went from age 12 to 15?

Wouldn't this also be true of men who just had sex regularly? The study says:
>"They suggest that young men genetically predisposed to have hormone-sensitive prostate cancer will be at higher risk if their bodies naturally produce high levels of male hormones -- the same hormones that give them an intense sex drive".
This just says that high testosterone men are more likely to develop prostate cancer. This is hormones causing cancer, NOT masturbation causing cancer. No idea how you come to that conclusion.

Thanks brother. It is an addiction. I think cooming has ruined my self control.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23167900

the sources in this articles are credible
yourbrainonporn.com/relevant-research-and-articles-about-the-studies/
yourbrainonporn.com/relevant-research-and-articles-about-the-studies/brain-studies-on-porn-users-sex-addicts/

Because people can smell the crusted cum on your dick and in your pubes when you go outside without showering after nutting.

These are all about hardcore pornography consumption. I am interested in the effects of masturbating without visual aid or with softcore stimuli. This list of studies does not prove that masturbation makes you go bald or gives you cancer.

>dopamine addiction
it will make you depressed when you cant satisfy your need for dopamine without masturbating.

simple.

If someone thinks its acceptable to go outside covered in cum without showering I would be willing to bet that jacking off is the least of their problems.

>single and no sex for more than two weeks, let alone a fucking year
Yeah and you are asking what is wrong with masturbating? LOL you got completely tricked into this lifestyle you goon

This study found masturbation raises DHT levels
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/135817
pic related shows what happens to your hair when you have high DHT levels

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Since I was 15 years old, I've been jerking off four times a day. I'm 21 now. I tend to only use softcore material. I jerk off to girls in skimpy outfits or to lesbian porn of girls kissing.

I can say that I feel much healthier than the majority of guys. I get turned by every girl that's decent looking, I'm essentially still a 14 year old as far as sex goes. I have one of the highest libidos of any guy I've ever known.

Forgot to mention.

I use my imagination 3 out of 4 times a day. I use softcore material as a treat once a day.

I felt the same, then around age 22-23 everything flipped upside down and it only got worse.
You probably have one year left to enjoy cooming before you start to feel the impact.

The second study shows that orgasm leads to the release of the hormone prolactine. This hormone boosts the 5-alpha-reductase enzym. Which leads to more testosterone being converted to DHT.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11835982

>masturbation raises DHT levels
This same logic can be applied to having sex. It is the orgasm that is causing this, NOT the masturbation.

So you're going to stop being a coomer now? Finally I got through to you.
Godspeed, user. You won't be a coomer anymore, you now know the truth.

How often are you having sex? How often do you jack off? I'm willing to bet that you jack off far, far more than you have sex with a woman.

>pic related. The average man does not masturbate everyday.
But thats proven wrong by the pic you posted you fucking idiot. In the 2 youngest age groups the split is generally even between all 5 categories, meaning 1 in 5 guys between 18 and 30 years old jack off more than 4 times a week. Thats a pretty large amount of guys

I appreciate the link, but you clearly don't know what the n-back is. This study is saying working memory is impaired when performing the n-back while simultaneously being sexually aroused. There is nothing here to indicate long term working memory deficits, what the results indicate is that working memory is impaired in the presence of pornographic material (if the pornographic material is sexually arousing).

>Finally I got through to you
Absolutely fucking not. You provided zero evidence that MASTURBATION caused negative side effect. You threw tons of unrelated or misinterpreted figures at the wall hoping that something would stick. You, user, completely failed to convince me of anything.

>I'm willing to bet that you jack off far, far more than you have sex with a woman
Completely irrelevant. Orgasming is related to elevated DHT levels, not masturbation. Your DHT levels will be raised regardless of whether or not a girl is jacking you off or you're doing it yourself. You need to learn how to better interpret data.

Okay, none of you managed to give me a single piece of compelling scientific evidence against masturbation (not orgasms, masturbation). There were lots of replies stating that hardcore porn is negative (though I'm still unsure of the ramifications of softcore porn or lewds), or that higher levels of male hormones can be bad, but not one successfully argued against simply masturbating.

With that said, I am going to attempt to not masturbate for 30 days in order to see:
>A) how dependent I am on masturbating
>B) how years of regular masturbating has impacted my dopamine activation levels

I'll make a post in 30 days to relay my ANECDOTAL results.

You guys need to get much better at having logical and fact-based arguments. When you make fantastical claims with no evidence, you're just as bad as people who swear by Horoscopes.

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>gets shown evidence
>starts crying and rejecting science or logic because he just like jacking too much
Lol wow rough life

I'm not going to try and argue with you NoFap fags anymore. Its clear that you live in a world of you own. Guess I'll just need to see these amazing life changing benefits for myself.

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lol did you even read his fucking post?

Didnt you already say you are single? Lmao

>I want to nut to a video of a 5'1 115 pound qt getting fucking impregnated. TELL ME WHY I SHOULDN'T!!!

Ask yourself this, why do you want to watch instead of actually doing it?
Clearly you find that asian girl you posted sexually attractive. if your inclination is watch her get fucked, instead of being the man who is fucking her, do you not see how your mind is warped?

Some people like OP are natural cucks. He wants to give people like me money and a room to fuck the girls he finds attractive, and all he wants in return is to watch

basically this OP
if this wont convince you or at least make you feel a bit guilty/let down then you are biased

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