Back in early highschool I was basically Friendzoned or ignored by every girl in the school, eventually I left to military school and turned my life down a whole different road. 4 years later and people tell me I'm hot almost every day, I haven't lived under my parents since I was 16, I'm 20 now. And this girl I used to know in Highschool seems to be leaving signs she is in to me.
But she's had two boyfriends, I can confirm at least two sexual partners, and her first one was an abusive Chad I hated in highschool. He's a sleazy beer bellied drug addicted lard now. But he took her virginity all those years back.
Now that I have a promising future and a pretty face, you'd think I'd be satisfied, and proud.
But why the fuck should I be exited about my enemy's leftovers?
>"I've really rethought everything user, I just want a good traditional christian guy who wants kids" Everytime she talks about what she wants she not so vaguely hints at me.
I spent years in misery and isolation, but I'm conflicted over I should even give her a chance, we were both weird in highschool, but I never got any romantic experience back then.
Are tradthots really redeemable? I guess thot is a cruel overstatement, but all I've really wanted is to marry and take a girls virginity, and my prospects for that are slim.
Also, I've been saving myself for marriage, should I just give up?
If you're hot now, you should be able to get a woman who isn't leftovers, no?
Michael Perez
As a recovered thot myself, it is possible. People can really change once puberty ends, girls can get BTFO'd by their hormones just like guys do. But ultimately it's your decision - do you think you know her well enough to believe what she's saying? Because if you were me, I'd probably spend a long time dating (no sex) and watch how it plays out. She'll let you know either way soon enough.
Charles Powell
Date highschoolers senpai
Asher Myers
pump and dump her do all kinds of gross shit to her, then ghost her. It's the life she chose
>just because im leftovers doesnt mean im bad why can i have leftovers when i can have something fresh? the only men who settle for "reformed" thots (as if that is even possible) are men who cant have better, and because they cant have better they are not the best men. when a woman sluts around during her early years she is setting herself up to settle with a man who isnt going to be able to provide everything for her. either he will be poor, ugly, or both and thats all you can get because you didnt preserve yourself for someone better.
Henry Allen
I mean, this is all complete bullshit that you tell yourself as a cope because the women you do want aren't interested in you. If you're OP, then you've answered your own question - don't go for it, wait for virgin girl and marriage. If you're not OP then, uh... cool.
Adrian Sanders
>girls can get BTFO'd by their hormones just like guys do nobody doubts that lol
Henry Rodriguez
>my enemy's It's been four years, you've "won" at life (being successful and hot) and he's lost. I get it, it took me a long time (10+ years) to get over the worst of my highschool bullies, but you should really make an effort to. You'll probably be a lot happier letting those grudges go. I certainly was.
I'd also suggest that you stop thinking of the girl as someone's "leftovers" and consider her on her current merits. Otherwise you may as well not bother trying for a relationship, it'll be doomed to failure anyway if you can't stop associating her with a guy you hate. If you can't do that you'll save yourself a lot of grief looking somewhere else.
At 20? Not unless you're lucky or a pedo. Frankly women having sexual experience at 20 is normal. If a woman is still a virgin at 20 there's usually a reason, and most of the time it's not "she's pure and waiting for Mr. Right". Same for men, really. It's you who's the outlier, not her. As long as she's not the town slut i wouldn't be too bothered.
Jacob Kelly
Nice try FBI. You will not recruit us INCELS INTO YOUR ARMY!!!!!
Julian Carter
And also the life that OP is then choosing. Solid suggestion, user.
William Stewart
no user dont do it the more sexual partner a girl has the more unhappy a marriage become after 3 the happy rating falls to 30% user dont bother with this used up hoar
Joshua Campbell
>I'd also suggest that you stop thinking of the girl as someone's "leftovers" and consider her on her current merits Why? The choices a person make say everything about their character.
Levi Scott
Forever though? What's your limit - stole something when she was 10, so she's a thief for life?
Anthony Robinson
Because mentally thinking of your gf as "leftovers" is no basis for a lasting relationship? That should be obvious. Also because thinking of your gf as "Chad's leftovers" is a real boner killer, but that may just be me.
Juan Edwards
Are virgins just permanently stuck in some kind of high school emotional purgatory? It is like never getting laid in your formative years fucks your development up. I mean, look at this thread, op is concerned about a women with 2 (two) sexual partners. Are you serious bro? That is like mother mary tier these days. Are you just insecure, or do you unironically believe women will "spoil" if they are dicked too much? Now, this doesn't mean you should date sluts, but you shouldn't reject an otherwise nice person for having fucked someone other than you. Not for her sake, but for your own sake. This kind of mentality will ensure you will never grow up. You'll keep being a emotional lonely schoolboy forever.
John Collins
Rejecting a girl for having had sex is just as maniacal as rejecting a man for not doing so
Luke Phillips
Highschool ended a long time ago op, let go and move on with your life you loser
Julian Cruz
yes, forever. she steals something as a kid and gets away with it, or maybe avoids punishment because she's a girl and cried? i don't give it a lot of weight, but it's a step down a bad road imo.
yeah it's best to not think of her that way. but it's true.
Josiah Gutierrez
>yeah it's best to not think of her that way. but it's true. And guys like you wonder why they can't get any...
Chase Garcia
lel go back to your orbiter discord, cunt
Jaxson Sanders
You sound really fucked up, man. That's real sad.
Zachary Russell
I am I hold myself to the same standard, and that's why I hate myself
Matthew Rodriguez
>As a recovered thot myself can you thot on my lap plaese
Jonathan King
I wouldn't go for anyone else than a virgin but it's your call dude
David Price
>in the army >complete psycho checks out
Aiden Butler
you've gone to far user, dont settle for the "reformed" thot
Zachary Morris
>I spent years in misery and isolation
You're just 20
Connor Martin
I have a rule: leave High School in the past. Nostalgia is a dangerous friend for an unadaptable mind. You need to expand your horizons. Meet new women, unless you live in a small town.
I have another rule: a girl is pure if she's a virgin OR is smart enough to responsibly bury her past. I won't go digging, but I sure as fuck don't want unknown boyfriends showing up. I don't want to hear about any of it. That's her cross to bare, not mine.
A lot of things happen because of shit parenting. People who have kids are usually less responsible people. You gotta let someone move on. But if they're too retarded to keep it out of your face? Cut'em loose, baby.
Brandon Wood
She's using you as a safety net. Once it suits her, she'll leave you high and dry. I see this all the time in church, which has become a heaven for reformed whores "Looking to settle down with a good man"
Don't do it.
Alexander Myers
ALRIGHT EVERYONE REPEAT AFTER ME: ALPHA FUX BETA BUX
Cameron Hill
Do not trust anyone, i don't know what one should do in such situation but you're dealing with a natural manipulator with previous experience. Be very very careful.
Austin Morales
That wasn't me, op here btw, but I do agree with some of his points. I do genuinely feel strong discomfort knowing a woman hasn't saved herself for me, when the past ten years of my life were pure misery so that I could become the man she'd want.
How do I go about that without looking like a creep?
I wouldn't bang until marriage, ideal age is 17-19 But So many girls seem to be losing their virginity at 15 or younger, so where do I find someone who will at least wait until they're 18.
All girls want something from you. If they are pure virgins at 17-19 then that means it's not sex they want. Maybe try a puppy?
Owen Price
Your gonna regret that hard. Especially if you want something long term. Most highschoolers have no idea what they want and the relationship will probably crumble eventually. That and your wasting you time looking for someone that fits your standards of pure. Hell at that point you might as well date a guy, because thats way more likely. also if your op try to figure out whether or not kids are something you actually want instead of some false idea on what a normal life is like that your chasing. Maybe you might not be fit for raising them, maybe your just not someone who would actually enjoy your sperm grow up into an asshole like everyone else.
Charles Hill
Every girl is someone's highschool thot unless she has worse issues you really don't want to deal with.
Gavin Hill
>virgins are bad trust me bro this is a psyop
Jeremiah Barnes
just join the military and die for Israel brah
Charles Peterson
>Are virgins just permanently stuck in some kind of high school emotional purgatory? It is like never getting laid in your formative years fucks your development up.
It DOES fuck your emotional development up.
If you're still a virgin at 21 you are basically guaranteed to be socially stunted. You're not the complete adult you were supposed to become. Part of remains a child because you've not had a fundamental life experience that is literally REQUIRED for life.
There's no guarantee of ever fixing it after that point. Even if you do find a partner later on, you'll most likely never be normal. Any partner you do find likely won't be normal either. 16-21 is probably just as critical a period of development as 0-6 is.
In twenty, thirty years we will probably look back at all the educational pressure to scare teenagers away from sex and realize that it destroyed two generations of kids.
Mason Turner
truth is, she doesn't care about you. probably just wants to use you as a meal ticket and to drive her places. stop living in the past and get a a nice hooker
Alexander Ross
I got the same dilemma, now that I'm nearing 30 there is a lot of former girls I used to know who are "trad" now and pretending like their past isn't real.
Logan Torres
>I can confirm at least two sexual partners >two sexual partners into the trash it fucking goes anything more than one is pump and dump 1 is still gf and potential wifey material
Juan Evans
>look back at all the educational pressure to scare teenagers away from sex and realize that it destroyed two generations of kids. I agree with the rest, but this is just silly. Educational or societal pressure has never stopped anyone from fucking. Even hardcore religious indoctrination is hit or miss. No, the main reason people stay virgins past their teens is because they can't get laid for whatever reason, not because they're too scared to.
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Sebastian Howard
OP are you american?
Robert Jones
she want a provider now, its up to you my friend
Noah Clark
>As a recovered thot myself hi sexy gimme a call when you want to relapse
Christopher Johnson
OP you're retarded. The only question you should be asking is "do I like this girl?" If yes, then go out with her. If no then move on. It's not that fucking complicated.
Ayden Jones
go for the ugly deviants
they are just as virgin as us
Jayden Nguyen
You should tell that fucking cunt to go fuck herself and never go near her ever again. >"I've really rethought everything user, I just want a good traditional christian guy who wants kids" She's a lying piece of shit who deserves to be beaten every day by that asshole she's with.
Brody Cooper
what this user said once a thot ALWAYS A THOT
Leo Wright
>As a recovered thot myself this is fake and gay and bait. Either way kill yourself
Evan Jones
Whores on sucide watch in this thread. Do not even bother user, the women that is now showing interest at you is only doing this beacuse you've won in life, she completly ignored you previously and she would still do this if it weren for your chadness. You can do definitely better. If you want a pure girl go for a high-schooler. If you are around 20 you're good.
this posters are based and normal these posters are degenerate cumbrains for which the most important values in life are getting laid
Logan Taylor
I was the oldest of 8 kids, there's probably no one my own age who is more experienced than me.
My parents litterally had a baby every 1.5 years
Josiah Reed
You're 20 and attractive. That's still young enough to go after 16 year old virgins. There is no reason for you to settle for anything less than a girl with absolutely 0 sexual experience but don't waste too much time, the longer you wait the harder it gets.
Camden Anderson
Yeah, I'm a fair skinned white American with green eyes. Half my siblings are redheads, so no I am not a mutt, if you're implying that.
Nathan Smith
>saving yourself for marriage girls are brainwashed not to do that anymore. you're only denying yourself enjoyable, memorable experiences by holding out for some nebulous, bullshit, and outdated ideal. no bitch in the current current, sexually liberalized year, has not gotten fucked by some douchebag who was just a little more aggressive and alpha than that other guy at the party. >be excited about my enemys leftovers you should fuck her but thats it. don't date her. don't date any girl imo. just fuck them. you're the prize now. you'd be doing yourself a massive disservice to give away your time and commitment to some stupid bitch.
Ethan Peterson
Don't do it. I haven't quite had the turn around that you have, but now I'm starting to "live my best life" as the normalfags like to say, all I have is regret for the earlier years I missed out on due to various circumstances and it fucking pisses me off. I'm going to keep on improving, while the attractive people back in the days are pot-bellied shitbags and the roasts are undesirable, ugly shits
Jack Butler
>As a recovered thot myself wow, so brave. women have the toughest lives, from men getting killed on the battlefield, to women taking chad's dick. they are alway suffering.
>unless you're lucky or a pedo. Really, user? How old are your parents? Most adult couples have at least a few years gap, women are traditionally always younger than their husbands. Something like a fourth or third of 18 year old girls are still virgins, those aren't impossible odds if you're attractive.
Jaxson Ortiz
>from men getting killed on the battlefield Are you ex-military? No? Then shut the fuck up incel
Dominic Price
I AM EX MILITARY DUMB FAGGOTRINO
Anthony Lewis
small community churches.
Henry Edwards
Fapping makes you a cumbrain and lessens your masculinity significantly.
Isaiah Lopez
How are they about 20-22 year olds dating their 17-19 year old daughters?
I don't plan on sex until marriage, so I think they'd be cool with it. But my biggest problem is when a girl gives me her number and then I find out she's like 15 or 16. Do I just keep in contact and wait until she's old enough to date? I'm not a pedo, and I don't want to be branded as one, I just want to marry a good girl who hasn't been deflowered already. Also, it's super hard to tell a girl's age these days, anyone else have this problem?
I in no way intend to have sexual relationships with minors.
Why do people think this is supposed to degrade someone's notoriety?
If someone went to war, they went to war, and are automatically cooler than someone who didn't, it doesn't matter what the war was for. They exercised their purpose as a man to fight, and learned valuable skills civilians don't even dream of.
People who bash soldiers just reek of post 60s beta male inferiority, and I can almost taste their bitterness at the fact that they'll never be as cool as the bearded guy people like to buy drinks for at the bar.
Honestly you might as well work as a liberal journalist, because that's the ours you give off.
>should I settle for Chad, Tyrone, Jose, and Brandon's sloppy seventeenths? what do you think OP
Andrew Williams
>>"I've really rethought everything user, I just want a good traditional christian guy who wants kids" tell her than maybe you shouldn't have had sex before marriage you stupid slut and god will have you burn in hell
No I was just asking because in case you were european, we could try something. Good luck friend!
Jordan Gray
The fact that you instantly describe a person who has had sex as rotten actually makes you the rotten one. Jesus fuck, grow a pair will ya?
So she had sex, what an ordeal, her insides must be completely ruined now... her whole body gone to waste just because you couldnt have the privilege of making her bleed.
Ryder Walker
If you had a girlfriend while you signed up she was definitely fucking chad Joining the military for an unworthy cause is literal cuck tier - you give up your prime years when you should be enjoying life, socialising and enjoying the small window of time (18 - 25) when you are at peak strength, physique and mental capacity Instead you give this up and spend your prime years elbow deep in sand, shitting your pants over the prospect that some goatfucker (who believes he is actually fighting a worthy cause) might blow seven shades of shit out of you with an IED All so some dual citizenship jew or some cocksucking traitorous warhawk politician can gain influence and claim oil from the land A B S O L U T E C U C K T I E R
Isaiah Ross
Not a virgin = not worth your time. Women who throw away their virtue early in life do so without any consideration for their future husband, and so it's no surprise when they have little consideration for their current husband. She will cheat on you and probably won't even feel bad about it, because she obviously only cares about her current emotional state and is heedless about the future. It never occurred to her when she was sleeping around how her actions might shame her future husband and tarnish her reputation. Do you think she'll miraculously grow a sense of responsibility and consideration just because you marry her? She will not.
Charles Parker
if the girl looks like she is college I don't see any problem. Unless you do something retarded like making her pregnant and then dumping her
Nicholas Diaz
based paki
Adrian Martinez
A harlot will always be a harlot until she repents before God. A woman who lives in sin and lust and then seeks redemption in the arms of yet another man instead of before the Lord is unworthy of any decent.
Do not fall for her lies, OP, have the strength to deny her.
Carson Morgan
So a non-virgin can just ask for forgiveness from god? And then get a trad-bf to take care of her even after riding the cock carousel in her teens? lol christcucks in a nutshell
Logan Lewis
some people can be prime to their 40s
Lincoln Smith
Maybe for their looks only, and it's incredibly unlikely But then again why risk dying for israel in your 20s so you never even reach 40?
Julian Hernandez
>But why the fuck should I be exited about my enemy's leftovers? only cucks and guys that cant get better marry second handed goods
Jaxon Morgan
>At 20? Not unless you're lucky or a pedo. the fuck are you talking about? I'm much older than you and exclusively go for 18 year olds.
