Changing careers at 30, what do?

My boomer dad is a CPA and I hear him bitching about choosing the wrong profession even moreso than I do, and he already knows he's too far in so I'd rather not go that route if I can help it

>Be me. Shitty liberal arts degree from Private Catholic School. Shitty Corporate job. Middle-mangement. Pay off loans till I'm 35. Hate job. Go back to Nursing school at 39 at a City School accelerated program (cheap). Happier than I've ever been in my mid-40's. Going for my Masters.

I have ubuntu that I've been fucking with, maybe I'll learn some more advanced stuff along with this online Java and Python course to get a bit ahead.

What exactly do you do for your work user?

>I was under the impression that I wouldn't even be considered in a software-related position without a bachelor's and relevant work experience
only thing that's relevant is work experience, and by that I mean your portfolio. Its like being an artist, you could have gone to the best schools and have diplomas coming out the wazoo, all that matters is what you've drawn. Learn to code, make some apps for mobile devices or whatever, have them on your portfolio. Don't spend 3 seconds in school. If you don't have the personal drive to do this then get accounting credits and get your CPA.

Honestly 40k a year is decent and the job sounds like you don't even do any real work, why are you complaining? Are you just bored at work? Higher paying jobs come with higher stress and more bullshit, so be ready for that if you get one.

Also, everyone I know, no matter what they picked, what degree they got, what job they landed, hates what they do. Everyone.

Go back to school part-time you what bitch.
30 isnt that old

white problems

Do something entrepreneurship related or structural engineering related and then go into construction.

Seriously

The pay is alright, the work is not. HR involves a lot of correspondence and phone calls that have wore me the fuck out throughout the years. It was doable back then, but talking with bitching employees about their benefits and FMLA package now just makes me cringe to think I'll be doing this type of work for decades, which is why I'm considering this career move.. I could probably handle high-stress positions if it's more technical imo

Thanks user, one of the biggest reasons why I'm also considering this is because my boomer dad offered to take care of it all -- when back then it was more of a 'you're on your own now!' mentality that it seems most boomers have, so I feel less like I'll be wasting my -own- resources.

But I have been learning the basics of coding with (free) online courses, so i'll see how far I can go and if I can create some neat shit for employers to see

>bitching about choosing the wrong profession even

Why does he think its the wrong profession? Is he making 40k/yr like you?

Forget college, go to tradeschool. Be an electrician, plumber, welder, etc... Make good money doing 'real work,' not some made-up bullshit and get out of the rat race.

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>everyone I know, no matter what they picked, what degree they got, what job they landed, hates what they do. Everyone.
It's the same with all my acquaintances, but that's because 99% of jobs just aren't that interesting and fulfilling for the amount of time you have to spend in them, if you have a dream then go for it, but most people don't have such a clear goal and aren't autistic or creative enough to enjoy a job 100% for years. The real problem is that people define themselves and their self-worth through their jobs, which is wrong.

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>Is he making 40k/yr like you?

He makes round $80k/yr I believe but it seems like he just hates the work and would've had more fun doing something else, he's also been laid off at most jobs he's ever had since employers consider CPA's to be expendable I guess. His most recent job laid him off and then hired him back as a consultant with a much lower pay.

The problem is that I like to sit on my ass user. If I wanted to get up and do shit I'd just go to the gym, not for 8 hours a day

That's odd, most CPAs consider there profession very stable with good money. Especially CPAs who get job offers all the time.

He might just suck at being an accountant? Something doesn't seem right.

>so I feel less like I'll be wasting my -own- resources
If you go back to school to get a degree in something like accounting/medicine/law where it is required by law in order to work in those fields that might be time well spent. If you are getting a degree in something where it is not legally required to do so then you are wasting your most precious resource: time. Right now you work a cushy 9-5 making 40k a year. You have plenty of free time to do this on the side while still collecting your paycheck.

Well theres your fucking problem

40k is good pay? I feel like I dont make enough and I broke over 40k YTD a month ago. Im a union autoworker making $31/hr, job is meh been there for 13yrs already. A few more years and a big chunk of the workforce here should be retiring, thats when I plan on moving off the line and advancing to better pay/easier work.

Doesnt sound typical at all. Maybe talk to someone whos not a fucking boomer. Afterall, this is the same person who let you end up in the position you are now.

>what is a good, non meme-career
Consulting, look up the strategy firms like McKinsey and Bain, and the Big 4 Advisory Practices. Starting salary is around 70k, with really solid bennies

Study an engineering degree in Europe. In Europe they're good, can't say the same for American engineers. They don't learn as much and are too theoretical, which is useless on the job market.

Dude don't listen to anybody who tells you comp sci is a meme. Aside from pleb jobs at grocery stores and construction companies, it's going to be the only administrative (office) work that is going to be available in the near future. If you are a woman, don't even think about going to school, you are polluting the water, settle down, get married and stay the hell out of our way while we reroute the course of human history.

Process engineer, chemical engineer and marine engineer are very good industrial degrees that will land you a 90,000 USD+ job after graduating with a masters.

Grades don't matter. Just pass. Make sure to get that practical experience. Intern with companies that do relevant work (smaller companies are better). Network with people. Don't be a prick (this will probably be easy considering your previous job experience).

Don't worry about being too old. A lot of people study in their late 20's, early 30's in Europe.

Campaign manager for Donald Trump.

if you want to make money with computers look into devops. not my cup of tea personally but that's the world.

I forgot to say, if you HAVE to study in the US, try to get a year in Germany, Scandinavia or somewhere else, this will give you the proper engineering mindset of getting shit down and hands on experience.

Check your options in the US. More expensive does not mean better. Try to study at a place that isn't hyped. Even better if the students are older than your average 20 year old retard.

I haven't worked an 8 hour day since 2002. Since then 10 hours a day minimum and university full time to boot. My last job has been mostly 10's and up to 18 or more. But then again I was making $95k.

Don't be a faggot, do something with your life.

Well I also considered med school, but I'm more of a tech guy so I thought I'd just go for CompSci to delve a bit deeper in coding since it seems like I might enjoy it. I'll have to think about it a bit
True -- I couldn't get over my dad literally telling me that I 'should've got a scholarship' while in high school and here he is now backpedaling and offering to cover the costs 8-9 years later. Boomers are fucking weird man
This is literally what I've been thinking is going to be the case -- the job growth for the next few years looks promising as fuck

also

faggot

Whatever route you take do two years at a community college to save money

I'll probably have to study in the U.S. user, save for the rare semester that I could study abroad. But I agree hands-on experience is vital and US Universities lack this fundamental aspect that students get moreso with internships.

definitely.

Engineering degrees are good for sitting on your ass.

My job entails commissioning cement plants. I go to the construction site and tell them what to do, then I follow up on it.

Process design is very relaxing. You sit with Excel and proprietary company programs and design full factories/plants from scratch, then hand it over to civil engineers who will figure out how to actually build the plant (also fun).

Chemical and marine engineers usually work on site, telling everyone what to do. Marine engineers is more for power plants, pulp and paper, cement or anything else involving pyro.

People look up to you for knowledge, even the old guys. As you get into your 30's, if you aren't a prick, you become a beacon of knowledge that everyone rallies around.

If you're willing to travel for work, you get lots of benefits, business class flights, nice accommodation, etc.

As a white guy who is well dressed, you will become a chick magnet in foreign countries (or the US, kek, when they hear my accent).

Fucked up my spacing, wtf. Sorry for the reddit spacing.

Become proficient in NI labview no matter what you study and you’ll be set

Be a trucker.

No apology for the LARP, though.

>WhY DoN't YoU JuSt gO To CoLLeGe aNd GeT a BeTtEr jOb?

Gee, I don't know....

Maybe it's because I had to drop out at 17 and get my GED so I could work and help my family survive

Maybe it's because I already work two jobs because I have to and I don't have any more time on my hands to better myself

Maybe it's because rent goes up so much every year and my checks only go up maybe 10% of that increase, so I can't stop working or we'll be homeless

Maybe it's because i'm too exhausted every day to even focus on how to do it

Maybe it's because I have to work graveyard shifts just to keep my 40 hours for my shitty ass health insurance, and i have to fucking sleep sometime, that time being the day, when most colleges are open

Maybe it's because college costs go up every year too and i'm terrified to take on all that debt when we're barely keeping our heads above water already

Maybe it's because i'm scared to spend years of my life on a goal that might not even pay off considering we seem to have giant recessions every 10 years

But it's so easy right?

If only you could get paid for making excuses

Stop feeling sorry for yourself and grow a pair, you bitch.

get ready for no one wanting to hire you
t. same situation now 32/ military experience

how do you get a job as HR? I'm stuck with working as an engineer, I want an easy job that's also respectable in society

Nursing at community college. You'll start working in two years. Work while finishing your BSRN and then get a DNP.

I'm 22 and make 67k, work at a CPA firm as an audit associate. Boss sat me down and told me that I'm getting a promotion to senior which is a bump to 74k in November. And that's less than 2 years out of college with just my degree in accounting.

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*BSN

>HR
>respectable in society
pick one and only one

You will need a degree, most likely anyway. If your parents "know a guy" you might be fine bht most places are going to want a degree and some experience for entry level, certs too.

MBA to HR manager

You’re still young enough take any civil service tests offered in your area by large enough cities and they will usually pay for your police academy if they want you

Am I the only one who is bothered by some of these expressions that Americans keep using?
>i want to go back to school to get a good job
i.e. you want to study at a university where you will be taught how to do scientific research.

This kinda sentence is right up there with
>i want to do something good for da community

>CompSci
you're too late
1. CS is too saturated for a long time, 2. you won't get a full time job until after your 30's and you'll be older than 22 year olds who are fresher on tech than you.

pick something in engineering, civil or computer maybe

Become a Trucker or pursue a trade.

IT?

Thanks boyo.
Darn it.

I'm in a similar position.

I chose electrical engineering.

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In America there is a big push for millennials and boomers 30+ to go back to "University college" types which are geared towards older folks trying to get an MBA, masters, or finish some variant of an undergrad degree, they spam the radio waves and bus advertisments with them in all the cities. I've met a few people who have successfully made the switch but it only makes sense if you know you're capped out at your old job and want growth potential from a degree

What is your IQ? (SAT scores work too)
How good looking are you?
What is your race?

you sound like a faggot OP
whatever you do your personality will be shit so it doesnt really matter
you want to be a air conditioned faggot so youll be surrounded by others like that and youll be useless forever
its too bad you didnt learn how to build things invent things and be a fucking man
good luck when the shtf fag

>capped out at your old job

It really helps to have prior experience in what you will be studying. I had a liberal arts degree but started working in an electronics manufacturing firm. I managed to teach myself most of the important stuff, and now that I'm back in school I will be breezing through it.

you idiot, you don't need a degree in comp sci to get a job as a developer. If you wanted to be in that field you could have started out teaching yourself to code and making some websites until you're like me making a good salary starting at over $60k a year (I will be taking home 120k this year)

instead you will go take useless comp sci classes that WONT teach you shit about how development works in the real job market and no one will hire you because you'll be 34 with no on the job experience

This.

Dont quit your HR job, those are good jobs. Go to school at nights, tell your employer you hope to get promoted after you graduate.

College means shit these days. Everybody has a worthless degree. Do you know what most people lack? Experience.

I work in technical sales and make over 150k a year. I hate people but I'm a good social drunk so it gets me through the day.

My brother drove trucks for about 18 years, made very decent money doing it. It's a job anyone who wants to get out and see the country can do, get your CDL and find a company looking for drivers.

Anyway, at 42, my brother decided he wanted to be a doctor. Had shitty grades in High School, and had never been to college. This fucker did it. Spent about a year in remedials, got his two year at a Community College in Science, transferred to a 4 year University and got his BS in biology. Studied and passed the MCAT, got into UMD Med School, and before 55 became a doctor and was practicing medicine. From Truck Driver to MD.

It's never too late, "your too old" and "its too late" is a jew meme designed to keep wage cucks subservient and and broke. Even a Bachelors in Biology is a based degree, not easily obtained, many jobs open up with that.

My recommendation for you user, would be pusue anything in the STEM field, especially anything IT, Engineering, or Med related (Nursing, NP, PA etc.,)

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This, I have a biochemistry degree and I didn't find shit for 2 years even with summer coop experience and research experience. Just ended up going my own way, only way to get out of the wagie life. Do something you can start yourself, if it doesn't interest you too bad. Fuck your dreams.

Learn CAD, Catia, and Solidworks, so you can design a better coffin for your dreams.

On another note, I know a few people who have no college degree but bring in More than most.

One guy is a plumber, rakes in upwards of 120k per year. Another is an electrician, pulls in somewhere between 89-99k per year. Another is a gun smith and firearms restoration specialist, pulled in something like 186k give or take, out of North Carolina I believe.

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I'd say IT, and concentrate on Network...I'd avoid application/desktop support (fuck users)

Start studying for CCNA now. Try learn or become good at trouble-shooting, logical fault-finding way of thinking, develop those skills.

Get in the Cisco pipeline ASAP...choose program that have a direct affiliation with Cisco or the people running the program do.
Sign up for a Cisco account.

Start looking at the Cisco cert tracks and figure out which one interests you (all this shit plus tons of free resources are available on Cisco's website)

Then you'll be on your way to getting paid to spend 3/4 of your of your day surfing the web and deciding where to go for lunch and the other 1/4 doing actual work.
It's glorious, I love it.

think of it like this, you could be a 20 year old in a country where no careers are viable

That requires massive experience and your own business. And your own business requires capital he probably wont have. Am electrician. Own business. I started my own after 12 years of working for someone else. Now I'm early 30s.

How do you only make 40k a year at $31/hr I make $16/hr and am on track for 60k this year. I do tend to work 40 hours of over time a week but still you make nearly double what I do.

I also went back to school later in life. I chose the geosciences because of the high volume of jobs to the low amount of people who choose this career.
It is also the science with highest kowest proportion of non whites.

JEsus christ, never do accounting/finance unless you absolutely have to. you have not/should not ever experience boredom on that level.

Go into CAD design.

T. Marketing or Supply chain major that couldn't get past principles of accounting

cs major here. youl be lucky to start out at 40K. you would be better off just getting your certs desu.

> mfw aero engineer
> programming business on the side
> studying CFA for finance
I don't even know what anymore. I don't think you'll ever be happy doing something that you are forced to do to make a living.

That's a nice story. Was he following the $ or have a genuine interest in medicine?

if you haven't decided who "you" want to "be" by 30, you're just gonna waste your life running around learning useless shit
calm down and do what you already know
if you feel the desperate need to learn new things, get books and read them in your free time

You can do it, you can be a PhD in before reaching 35 if you're quick. Let's say you finish by the time you are 40; you are still looking at +20 years of work; would you not prefer those years to be in a field of your interest?

I dont know, OP, but i sure hope you do better in your career switch. I'm far too old for school and getting my shit together, so all i can do is hope for the best for others.

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move somewhere were 40k is enough to own a home and save money at the same time then when you have enough dosh nope out into the woods

Get a degree in medical tech. I know a dude, 30 year old boomer, who went back and got a degree in medical tech and makes 90k a year operating MRI machines and such.

EASY job. So easy.

I myself went back at 30 and got a BBA in marketing. I'm not making a ton of money or anything, but the job is ok and isn't stressful at all.

This. If you haven't put in the legwork to know how to make 100k+ by age 30 you probably just didn't give a shit for most of your life and people don't change. Why suffer chasing another career with your remaining days, old man?

Dude, go to Jow Forums and read the fucking sticky.

In half an hour you can squat and deadlift heavy as you can. Keep the numbers going up. Then it will come a time that you go the gym and just by maxing you will exercise your whole body because you are lifting twice your bodyweight.

T. Likes to sit his ass but pulls 250 kg dl natty.

Hey on this topic what's a good intm. Routine?

t. SS for a year and trying to decide between grey skull and PPLPPX

If you don't have the internal drive to learn puters on your own don't bother studying them. Go for an education in the field you like to do naturally. If you have talent and drive in any area there is a demand for you.

Get an Associates Degree in "mechatronics" or electronics/industrial technology. Industrial maintenance is in need of people and easy work for good money. Automated manufacturing is growing and needs skilled technicians. It's not the cleanest job but it pays well and involves a lot of quality ass time.

Not too late, don't listen. Just be as good as the new grads.