Intel BTFO!
Intel BTFO!
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Kayden White
1.67v dude that's too much voltage.
Xavier Miller
SHUUUUUUUT UUUUPPPPPPPPP
Camden Richardson
I don't think the degradation wall changed much, but it was 1.45V on 14nm so i wouldn't go over that.
I wouldn't OC in the first place anyway, way too inefficient.
Joseph Myers
Overclockers are a curse on expectations of what a CPU/GPU is capable of.
Adrian Hill
fuck AMD, why not use a HP process?
Anthony Nguyen
>using cpuz to get voltages
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Julian Bell
Under load nigga
Eli Cook
>why not use a HP process
there's no commercially available 14nm node that has a high performance focus.
All 14nm libraries in samsung/gf/tsmc are for mobile, tsmc though has way better clock scaling and consumption for big chips.
1.67 Volt for 4.5GHz is obviously wrong.
1800x can do 5.8GHz at 1.97 Volt.
Jacob Harris
1. It's not available for FinFET
2. It's more than just a optical shrink requiring major physical design changes
Jayden Ortiz
>2017+1
>another Intel BTFO thread
>amemed still shit
when r u gonna learn pahjeet?
Evan Parker
Buy AMD
Gas the jews
Elijah Adams
IBM got a 14HP process. Why isn't AMD sucking IBM's cock to get it?
Daniel Rodriguez
It's SOI you twat.
Colton Ortiz
It doesn't matter. Why do they want FinFET in the first place?
James Bennett
I don't know, maybe because FinFETs do a much better job of keeping leakage in check.
Just a guess
Jose Watson
>1.67v
Eli Howard
Zen core + FX clocks would've been killer. If Jewtel can get away with it, why not AMD?
That really grinds my gears. The last AMD CPU with a good balance between IPC and clock was the Athlon Thunderbird.
Colton Gray
>1800x can do 5.8GHz at 1.97 Volt.
Jackson Mitchell
Because you're retarded and AMD works with what it has, Intel has a process that can address high clocks and low clocks(density), GloFo does not, neither does TSMC and Samsung.
Luis Bailey
Under LN2, you stupid fag.
Landon Ward
The absolute state of AMD
Connor Morris
What exactly does that screenshot prove?
Logan Gutierrez
Because Zen is server first and was always advertised that way
Hunter Russell
I was going to say "well, just make one core for server and another one for desktop" but I don't think AMD will ever have enough money for that
Aaron Taylor
7LP is a HP process designed by IBM for their mainframe chips so you'll get your wish soon enough. Maybe we'll see some watercooled OCs up to 6GHz
Easton Lopez
They will next year, but do they really care to chase some 500-600MHz extra overclocks in DT? Does it pay off? Likely no.
Parker Collins
>LN2
God it's hard to face AMD in current year. The glory days of Athlon are just so, so long ago...
Daniel Cruz
I think it does. Clock wall and instabilities aside, Ryzen still managed to keep Intel in check, but now they're upping their game and AMD needs a better answer.
Owen Allen
I wouldn't, waste of resources to validate a different die for a dying breed like overclockers, especially with AMD's limited manpower and resources.
Leo Hughes
Yup, also having to worry about older gen mobos on a HPC process for overclocking would be a nightmare.
If AMD is smart, it won't touch this with a 10 foot pole, at least keep it strictly to TR4 if you absolutely need it since that can handle the load.
Josiah Davis
poozen
Ian Hughes
>having to worry about older gen mobo
Isaiah Wilson
>LN2 numbers matter