Only 20% faster than 1080 Ti

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>Only 20% faster than 1080 Ti
>256bit bus with fucking GDDR6
>12nm, so no easy 2ghz clocks
>$699 US dollars

Surprisingly realistic & just as unsurprisingly disappointing

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> 256b card
> $700 amerishekels

this is the future Nvidiatards chose.

>$699 US dollars
expect to see cucks pay $1,000+ for these cards anyways

>12nm

Nvidia is gonna do a refresh in late 2019 for 7nm, probably the same amount of CUDA cores & all, just over 2ghz clocks

easy money

I called a 15%-20% gain soon as rumors about Volta surfaced years ago and you faggots said I didn't know what I was talking about.

what was everyone expecting?Nvidia is not bleeding money they don't have to go all out now.I mean you got people above market for subpar cards.

$1k pooga with 2015 performance is clearly a better deal, poojet

>MSRP $699
So realistically we can expect retailers to price gouge for $1200.

Fuck that.

Yeah 20% sucks but you didnt really post a reliable news source did you

>GTX 1180 is gonna retail at $650
>GTX 1080ti's will still be selling for $900+ on Newegg.

That wouldn't be that bad if it wasn't for the outrageous price tag

And of course just as cucked overclocking as on pascal.
And if you think pascal can over clock well you're being deluded my marketing.

if it has 2015 performance, why are people paying $1000 for it?

MH/s

>only 20%
>only

What's wrong with this? Were you expecting 50% improvements every year?

except he's comparing the 1080 ti to the 1180 instead of 1080 to 1180. The performance difference IS 50%. OP is a turd. 1180 ti will be up there all, things considered.

384bit bus/GDDR6, 7nm die/2Ghz/4k+ CUDA cores would net 50% & Nvidia could sell it for $699 & still make a massive profit, but no need because AMD is selling out to Consoles & Miners, they can't be bothered competing in the high end GPU market

Call me retarded, but why is pci-e still around? Is there not a better, more modern method of interfacing a graphics card with a cpu/system?

Look up the gen-z interface , its the future.

I don't think we can use all the bandwidth in 3.0 yet, but a change would be nice by nice

nice by now*

What does PCI-e lack that you'd want to see added that would require an entire overhaul of the expansion card system?

Like more LEDs? Specifically green and blue ones, to keep GPUs cool and environment friendly.

sounds like the 1180ti or the titan from this new gen is going to be a good card for 1440p 144Hz for some years to come then

At the current moment. there's nothing at all wrong with PCI-e that would require its replacement.
The whole "don't fix it if it ain't broke" idea, no reason just to get rid of something because it's been around a while.

>20% faster than the 1080ti for the same price as the 1080Ti

I fail to see the problem

>50% faster than pascal
welp, brb buying the 1150 for me

the 1180ti is the one that should have the same price

we are nearing the limits of 3.0 youtube.com/watch?v=i8iE_sQBFXk
pcie 3.1 has already been published along with 4.0; 5.0 is in the works slated for a 2019. Considering DDR5 ram is being considered for motherboards I would expect changes by then.

Bandwidth can and will be increased, that's nothing new.
What would a "better, more modern" interface look like and why should I switch to it?

I'm probably going to swap my 1070 over to a 1160/70 even though there is absolutely no reason to upgrade

My gigabyte 1070 is the noisiest thing I've heard. Sounds like it's going to take off.

i told the other user but look up gen z , its an open stantard that will hopefully come soon enough.

So it doesn't have 2015 performance. Boy, it sure is confusing when retards start talking.

Too bad about the name

It better be fake news that all AMD has planned for 2019 is a Navi that is 1080 levels

Nvidia gonna price gouge like no tomorrow

something that can pass more power through, so I can just plug in one or two power cables directly to the motherboard, considering something like a pico power supply. Maybe something where I can have the card parallel with the motherboard instead of perpendicular (without risers).

>absolutely no reason to upgrade
upgrade then undervolt and underclock till it has 1070 levels of performance without all the heat
its genius honestly

did they cuck Cuda?

Nice source you got there.
I refuse to believe such a small die can best 1080Ti without a huge node decrease, there's just no way. Is there even any confirmation of them doing something that isn't a Pascal refresh? AMD doesn't have anything, why release cards with a newer architecture when they can leave it in case AMD does something decent?

What about 1160?? Price and release date? Or should i just buy the 1060 now?

Integrated channels for power would be nice, but would probably melt the motherboard

>Die Size ~400mm2
Isn't this around 1080Ti die size? No way it's the 1180.

If I changed anything about pcie I would make the connector bigger or make some standard for support brackets . I don't think it was invented with the idea of massive fucking gpus in mind .

Release 3-4 months after the 1180. Buy a 1060 now if you need it.

The 1080 die was 314mm2. 1080Ti is 471mm2.
Sounds reasonable to me.

1180 Ti might be 7nm, it might even need it for the standard 30% increase

No, Global Foundries are the only ones producing 7nm at the moment. TSMC is starting this summer, which is far too late for the 1100 series.

1180 Ti will be mid 2019, no point releasing it 2018 when AMD only has a 12nm Vega refresh

I except 1160 might be dragged to 2019 as well to counter Navi 10

~1600 vs 1582 mhz
512 GB/s vs 484 GB/s

There's a few instances where the Titan Xp loses to a GP100 ( 8K rendering / very high bandwidth )

>16ghz GDDR6
Nice
>256bit bus

Oh no no no

This will be snapped up by autismcoin miners in a heartbeat.

So how does the 1170 compare to the 1070? Can I finally play every game in existence at 150fps 1080p?

>muh 10 cents a month
Are you retarded?

180W = 15 dollars per month

>still on a 760

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20% faster than the 1080 Ti is still fucking 40% faster than the Vega 64. Radeon died and along with it PC gaming is fucking dead and rotting
This is what happens when the plebs feed an inferior company with all their money.

>20% gain
Very surprising, expected 5 -10% with same price.

>still on a 670
>670 dies
>borrow a 10 years old GPU from a friend because prices are so high I can't afford anything made in the last five years, not even used stuff

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Isnt 20% faster a lot?

I feel ya, recommended a friend an APU for the same reason. Feels bad man.

PC gaming is bigger than ever, but the games suck pretty badly, no more great titles like Half Life, just PUBG clones & MOBA's now, but that's what the normies want so whatever

Yeah it's pretty good. That 20% is comparing a future Tier 2 card (1180) to a current Tier 1 card (1080 Ti).
Meaning when the 1180 Ti comes out and people upgrade from the current Tier 1 to the future Tier 1 card (1180 Ti) the performance jump will probably be similar.

For people who upgrade every 1 or 2 cycles, it's far more cost efficient to upgrade within the same Tier, like a GTX 580 to GTX 780, or a 980 to a 1080.

1080 ti? article says 1080

That's exactly where everyone was expecting it to fall. They've inflated the price of XX80 cards even as they cut them down due to the success of Titan and XX80Tis.

They get away with it because AMD hasn't offered higher performing GPUs since 2013 (R9 290) unless you want 500 W power consumption per card with a Fury or Vega.

The pricing of the 1080 and Titan X(p) on launch really confused me, and 6 months in I didn't expect a Ti and got burned for it. I'm never getting anything less than full sized GPU again. Might get another 1080 for SLI if they're cheap down the line. Either way that won't be until mid 2019 which should be when the Navi cards are also hitting retail.

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The speculative numbers by WCCF Tech show that 151 is 117.9% of 128. So supposedly the 1180 is 18% faster than the 1080 Ti.

But the 1180 should really be compared to it's Tier equivalent 1080, which speculates a 51% improvement.

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>Launch July 20 2016

Currytech can't even get the launch dates for GTX 1080 right, you can pretty much ignore this clickbait garbage

1180ti when?

Well if the 1180 is currently estimated as Q3 to Q4 at the latest, then I'd assume Q1 or more likely Q2 next year

>no competition
>no need to move the goal post forwards

J-U-S-T

>year is 2018
>256-bit BUS

jesus how people still fall for this shit

Man idk which to go for. Both of them still have a pretty high tpd but i kinda want to watercool my system so no point going 1180 when the 1180ti will obs trash it.

Also whats eith the tiny bus?

>GTX 1080 256-bit memory bus has same performance as AYYMD HOUSEFIRES 2048-bit memory bus Pooga garbage
>still falling for the bigger is better meme

>still on GTX 880m
>laptop keeps overheating
>at this point almost anything would be better
>GPU prices skyrocket so hard that i can afford a 1050ti max
>just barely better than the 880m

You could try doing some maintenance on it, clean up, replace tim etc..

Boards are built to handle 250w or more going to the CPU, what makes you think >75w to the PCIe slot isn't possible?
The PCIe contacts can't handle >75w going through 4 pins.

I have, but it hasn't helped all that much, it's kind of my own dumbass fault for abusing it so hard over the last 5 years but it's got a literal gaping hole behind the speaker which completely messes with the airflow probably and gets it dusty very quickly, i think i should just deal with it throttling for now until i can save up for a 1060 at least, but it's a painful loss, it used to be able to do average 112FPS on the very high preset on the 2013 Tomb Raider which is a game right from it's era and now it barely manages 30 on the low preset

Nvidia is entirely focused on deep learning.
Gaming cards are an afterthought

It's almost certainly fake news because it's way too early for performance data.
Also Navi is MCM. If the single die GPU is 1080 performance then the two die GPU will be very fast, similar to where you would expect a 1180ti.
The the single die is RX 480 performance, then the dual die would be similar to a GTX 1080.

Not true, people just think this because they didn't show new GPU's at GTC because it's too early, also they tend not to show GPU's there

It's fucking AMD who are spending all their R&D on Consoles & probably miners now too

at least it's not like AMD where they LITERALLY rebrand the already rebranded 5xx series

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>Rebrands the rebrand

AYYMD REBRANDEON, THE WAY IT'S MEANT TO BE REBRANDED

>on my old as fuck 7300 GT because my 1080Ti never arrived in months so I canceled order.

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There is 0 R&D spent on mining. Good mining performance is a byproduct of high memory bandwidth. Nothing else matters.

i have an old 750 that I can legit send it to you for free if you live in Europe

Graphs like this are nice and all but they rarely show the truth, the 700 series aged like dog shit and the 780 will NOT perform anywhere close to a 1060.

This is what I said, that the next gen Nvidia GPUs would be AT MOST 25% faster than the last gen. That it would be much smaller jumps than Maxwell and Pascal. So while the 1060 almost matched the 980, the 1160 is going to be slightly behind the 1070.
It's a no-shit conclusion since they can't get much more performance without increasing die size, which the Jew bean counters at Nvidia won't allow. Anyone with basic tech knowledge would guess the same.

But the Vega64 nearly matches the 1080Ti in games that are programmed well. It's been doing very well in the new AAA releases this year.
And Navi is coming in a year with 1080 performance for only $250. So you're +75% RX680 performance for $700 with the 1180. That's about 3x worse the price:performance.

Anyone who buys a 1180 is pretty retarded since it's not good enough to drive a 4K monitor, yet it's overpowered for 1440p. You're just wasting money. I said this same shit last year, that you're better off buying a $125 RX470 and saving that extra $350 that a 1080 costs for a future upgrade. And I was right. I've been building computers since 2001 and I'm always right with this shit.

If someone actually made a $700 GPU that could run EVERY game at 4K 60fps minimum, hell even $1200, it'd be worth it. But no one is. Titan V is the only GPU that somewhat can, but it's $3000 and not worth it at for gaymes at that price (though is actually good price:performance for fp64 and the tensor core performance except the non-quaddro seem to be bugged).

(same)
I wanted the Vega Silver for how pretty it is to mod it. Throw on a better cooler, but cut down the side plate. Never arrived.
Though I still have a non-reference 7970 that works flawlessly and plays virtually every new game at 1920x1200 medium or better.

Correct.

ambermd.org/gpus/index.htm

>We have received conflicting reports about Titan-V cards failing the validation tests. Early reports suggested problems, but many subsequent tests have failed to reproduce this.

Stop posting lies about Titan V, it's been DEBUNKED hard

>Nvidia GPUs would be AT MOST 25% faster than the last gen
The speculative numbers posted show 51% from 1080 to 1180
>It's a no-shit conclusion since they can't get much more performance without increasing die size
Which is why the process node has changed 16nm to 12nm and the numbers also show a 86mm2 increase in die size
>And Navi is coming in a year with 1080 performance for only $250
Absolute rubbish and wishful thinking on your part
>1180 is pretty retarded since it's not good enough to drive a 4K monitor, yet it's overpowered for 1440p
1080 Ti can't max all but for many games it can at 1440p. I play on actual max settings so 1180 Ti will be the 1440p sweet spot for years and years. It will certainly be great for 4K60fps based on the decent 4K performance of the 1080 Ti
> 4K 60fps minimum, hell even $1200, it'd be worth it. But no one is
Only correct thing you said. Need 2 gpus for max 4K, but the 1180 Ti will be THE 4K card.

Sorry but your post has a lot of errors and bad speculation based on a clear bias. I'm just pointing that out.
I have a 1080 Ti and I cannot max (with eye candy) all my games at 1440p and keep 60fps, some games just aren't optimized so they drop below 60.

>it's overpowered for 1440p
Except it's not

>I said this same shit last year, that you're better off buying a $125 RX470 and saving that extra $350 that a 1080 costs for a future upgrade. And I was right. I've been building computers since 2001 and I'm always right with this shit.
A 1080 costs $880-1000AUD, and a Vega 56 costs $1100AUD. Neither can hold 1440p 60fps without lowering settings or dropping them completely. People don't enjoy running the games they paid for with poor textures or missing shadows and effects.

Sounds like you've been talking shit since 2001.

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>The speculative numbers posted show 51% from 1080 to 1180
>>>>>according to currytech
>1080 Ti can't max all but for many games it can at 1440p.
Can barely do 30fps 1% minimums. 30fps isn't enough.
For 1440p, an RX580 or 1070 do fine and you don't need to waste money on more.

>[RX680 matching 1080 is] Absolute rubbish and wishful thinking on your part
No it's not. RX480 was roughly 980 performance for $250. RX580 plus the driver updates sense actually handedly beats the 980 now.

>A 1080 costs $880-1000AUD, and a Vega 56 costs $1100AUD. Neither can hold 1440p 60fps without lowering settings or dropping them completely.
In what game? PUBG or some shit? They do 70+ easy at 1440p in everything I've seen.

>Anyone who buys a 1180 is pretty retarded since it's not good enough to drive a 4K monitor, yet it's overpowered for 1440p.
1080p 240hz tho
>but my cpu bottleneck
csgo runs at like 500fps

>Can barely do 30fps 1% minimums. 30fps isn't enough.
1080 Ti is currently the best card on the market, and I have one, it does far more than 30fps. It holds 60 often, but not for all games and settings. Your bias is really coming on strong here.
>For 1440p, an RX580 or 1070 do fine and you don't need to waste money on more.
You won't be wasting your money because you can run the games you play at higher settings with better frame rate. 1070 or 580 are medium setting 1440p cards at best. That's not good enough.
>So you're +75% RX680 performance for $700 with the 1180. [RX680 matching 1080]
75% isn't matching performance. You are dreaming if you think "1080 performance for only $250", but we have different ideas on what performance is it seems. For 1080p i'm sure it'll be great
>In what game? PUBG or some shit? They do 70+ easy at 1440p in everything I've seen.
PUBG is one but also Company of Heroes 2, Warhammer 2, Kingdom Come, and those are just the ones I've played. I play, or try to play on max settings with 60fps average, but there are drops.
I'm just highlighting that the 1080 Ti is not a true 1440p max settings minimum 60fps card, and will continue to struggle with some games that push graphics further.

Vega is a housefire turd

>Vega64 nearly matches the 1080Ti...
Hahahahahahahahahahah

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Reviewers all show the 1080Ti only getting around 30fps 1% minimums. Are you saying they're all lying shills that hate Nvidia? ALL of them? Even Linus Tech Tips, Pcper, etc?

Nice ignorance

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not the guy you were responding too, but the vega 64 and the 1080ti are both at/near the top, with like a 15fps difference between the two

I would consider that "nearly matching" the performance of the 1080ti

>the Vega64 nearly matches the 1080Ti in games that are programmed well
>mfw

Maybe in a couple of UWP games like Forza 7, but that's only because they are literally designed for AMD through & through being Xbox One ports

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980 Ti can be a fucking 4K card, the problem is PC gamers refuse to play at anything but max settings & 60fps

Even 1180 Ti probably won't get 4K/60fps maxed on FFXV, VXAO aint cheap