If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >NO Core i7/5/3 7000 series. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE >NO Ryzen 1000 series. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY THE Ryzen 2000 SERIES >R3 2200G - Bare minimum gaming WITH/WITHOUT a graphics card (Low end) >R5 2600X - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPU (Mid range) >R7 2700X - Best gaming CPU / VM Work / Streaming / Video editing (High end) >TR 1950X/Used Xeon - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing (HEDT)
RAM: >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports
Graphics cards: >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >MSRP of standard 1080p cards: 1050Ti, 140USD; 1060 3GB, $200; 1060 6GB, $230; RX 570 4GB, $170; RX 580 4GB, $200 >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
Budget is like 200 dollars or less. I've heard a lot about Noctua but I'm skeptical of air cooling, maybe if it wasn't 30C in my house at all times. I like the way you think
Isaac Smith
What site do you use to monitor deals?
Parker Torres
All coolers go to the air in the end. Unless you do a custom water loop (way more than $200) the D15 is the best option. PCPartPicker has e-mail alerts
Camden Harris
I almost wanted to leave it in there just because of how bad it was getting
Aaron Cox
I realize that they all go to air but I figured that something would be different. I reckon I'll go for the D15 and pick up better thermal paste than what I used previously. I think I got a chip that would benefit a lot from delidding, but I'm much too scared to do it(and void my warranty along the way)
Josiah Phillips
Any 240/280mm all in one liquid cooler is good for most overclocking etc. D15 is one of the best air cooling choices if you have space for it.
Robert Mitchell
The D15 comes with free NT-H1 (which is better than or equal to almost all conventional pastes) If your case can fit a 360mm AIO then that would be better, but 240/280 is about the same as the D15 in the end
OP is AMD fanboy. 8700K (and 8700) and 8600K are still valid purchases for people who want absolutely best gaming performance and have 1080 (ti) with 144-240hz monitor.
Mason Perez
Disregarding OP's shenanigans, that's 4 people on the planet and all of them are too busy watching gay porn
Angel Brown
>people who want to get seizures when gaming Sure, Jayztwocents.
Jose Mitchell
More is definitely better, I would go for the 420 if you can do so. Ultimately you're still bound by the TIM on top of the die so if you ever want to do real OC you should delid
Jordan Walker
I don't fucking understand being a fanboy for either brand. Both intel and AMD are good for productivity and gaming, while Intel might lean towards being better at gaming and AMD towards productivity (within the same price classes)
For me honestly they're so close it wouldn't really matter to me. But i like to support the underdog.
Julian Price
I think 5ghz at 1.32v vcore/.1.29v vid is good enough. I'm not really comfortable raising my voltage to whatever I'd need for 5.1 or 5.2
James Hall
>Sure, Jayztwocents. Sure, AdoredTV
>people who want to get seizures when gaming Is this a new meme?
Don't really need to post pro benchmarks since AMD has had that shit on lockdown since first gen Ryzen but second gen Ryzen is all about the improvements in gaming to the point that it makes recommending anything intel other than cheap used xeons kinda dumb.
Joshua Perry
Civ6 frames don't really mean anything since you'll get more if you calculate turns slower
Jonathan Anderson
>inb4 some shill cherrypicks 2d 240p games from 50 years ago
Mason Scott
Nice cherrypicks. I still base my claim that Intel is still the best for gaming on more than few benchmark results. I do recommend AMD because of Intel's jewery and the fact that you need 1070 ti or better for any meaningful difference in games, but some people (like one of my streamer friends) just wants the best gaming performance and Intel is still better at most games.
Pic related: my system, which would have better use of 240hz monitor (for some games) if I had waited for coffee lake.
Why is amd always a big joke in any race against intel and nvidia?
John Butler
>getting lower frames is better Ubisoft marketing rep is that you?
Kayden Cruz
>cherrypicks >6 of some of the more popular triple a games >from 4 sources different sources >different resolutions Nigger everything you say gets contradicted by benchmarks just stop trying to derail the thread
No idea why does AMD outsell intel in retail
Parker Johnson
Even if they're cherry picked i'm impressed that the new ryzens are able to match or even beat a stock 8700k that boosts up to 4.7GHz.
Adrian Nguyen
Who are you quoting? Anyway, look at Gamers Nexus benches for an explanation
Thomas Brooks
>if I had waited for coffee lake I wish i waited for ryzen so i don't have to deal with cracked TIM
Gamers nexus is one of the biggest intel shilling outlets on the internet
David Allen
>No idea why does AMD outsell intel in retail because their products are crap made by chinks and pajeets and as such they can sell for super cheap but anyone who has more than one brain cell will always go intel inside + the way it's meant to be played combo
Thomas Nguyen
God i love my 4790k, overclocks like a charm to 5 ghz, stays cool n' quiet while doing so
So i have a Dell precision t3600 that runs pretty well...it was used for rendering protectors for interior design stuff. It has a massive 32gb of ram but the gpu is 4 years outdated its the NVIDIA Quadro K2000.
Can I just replace the old gpu with the geforce wind force 6gb gpu? Or would I have to also get a new psu?
>tfw dust cloth slips out of hand and lands in the 1151 socket what now? at the moment there is no damage to the pins but the second you try to remove that dust cloth it's game over
Blake Hall
Compressed air or a very very soft brush, or even just hold your mobo upside down and try to shake it out i guess.
Hudson Barnes
>drop shiny new ryzen >pins break off
Same thing really, replace the device or try to fix the pins yourself. A motherboard is often cheaper than a processor. however.
Zachary Fisher
Much easier to fix the CPU pins though, and if you're really crazy you can break the pins off and put them inside the socket before installing the CPU.
Aiden Lopez
Not if you buy actually good motherboards that won't slow down your pricey cpu. One thing that angers me is all the crap i HAVE TO pay for in a good mobo even if i don't want it. Why the fuck do i need to pay for led strip sockets and led connectors on the mobo? who the FUCK uses led strips in their computer? 99% of all cases are completely opaque and even if you buy one of those gay cases with plexi glass on the side then why the fuck would you want a christmass tree sitting under your table every time you turn on the computer?
Eli Diaz
I don't know much about the ease of fixing either, but a google search makes it seem like they're both possible but the 115x sockets are also quite difficult in regards to the rest. The build of the 1151 cpus in general seems to be flimsy. That said I think your argument is odd considering it's implying ruggedness in the case of user error, I think that tends to have little value. I spent $200 US on a mobo. I don't think it's socket pins will be much stronger than any other 1151, if at all.
Blake Hughes
Is there a guide to learn about the pc parts and stuff? Want to build my 1st pc gor gaymen but im almost clueless about what the different mobos, rams, psus do
Kayden Phillips
I am talking about led pins. CPU socket pins are same everywhere but what you are paying for aren't pins it's the speed at which the mobo allows the memory, cpu and gpu to communicate together
Ryan King
Of course, I love the features this motherboard provides but I don't really understand what you mean by led pins.
Carter Rogers
You'd find countless "guides" but you haven't really even googled before you came here. I suggest you go google "How to build a gaming PC".
Overclocking is making the CPU run faster than the factory spec, and people do it because you get free performance boosts.
ex. i7 2600k boost to 3.8ghz stock to 4.7ghz all cores overclocked.
Kayden Baker
It’s when people set their clocks ahead by a few seconds so it can stay relatively accurate as time passes due to rotational velocidensity.
Nolan Moore
You increase energy(and in turn heat) to get more power out of your hardware. It requires more expensive hardware and can damage things when done atrociously improperly but it allows you to squeeze the most out of any processor you have. Except "locked" processors, obviously. They were made to run a certain way and shouldn't be adjusted.
Camden Long
GPU: Pick 10x0 from nvidia made by gigabyte depending on how poor you are Motherboard: Gigabyte, absoluely no competition here. If you are a gamer get Aorus and make sure it has z730 chipset (1151 socket). I can't even count the retards who bought z730 cpu and tried to cram it into a socket with wrong chip support. Don't even fucking look at those pins for longer than 3 seconds at a time because the photons reflected from your eyes will bend them. CPU: Intel i5 (just pick the one you can afford), if you have money to blow then i7. If you are super poor then get ryzen. Memory: 2x8GB DDR4 kit don't buy more it's useless, make sure the sticks have coolers, don't care about timing Case: something like zalman z1 if you are poor. Unlike rest of the rig you can get away with a cheap case easily, you will cut yourself when installing things into it but that is the only downside. The rule of the thumb is: If gigabyte manufactures it, buy it from them
Congrats, you are now a computer building expert
Angel Diaz
Speccy shows TCTL temps instead of TDIE, which has a 20c+ offset. Take whatever temp you see in the picture and subtract 20c.
So? I would buy it because it's pretty. But it's useless inside of a pc case. Nobody will even see it under the table and it will only burn your eyes out during night gaming.
Thomas Turner
Upgrading my mATX i7 4790k PC (keeping my 550w Gold PSU and 980 GPU)
Been out of the loop for a few years, so let me know if this is OK.
Based in UK, £900 limit for CPU, Mobo, RAM and cooler.
you won't be able to tell difference between 2666 and like 2400
Ethan Butler
>intel see There is no reason to buy intel right now
Logan Gonzalez
unless you do video encoding or run virtual machines then i7 is wasted money get i5 instead
Tyler Hall
is there a guide for that?
Jayden Fisher
Yes, look it up.
Michael Hall
google yer shit, you lazy fuck
Jace Johnson
>free AHAHAHAHAHAH you have to pay to get cpu with unlocked multiplier son, you are paying for every bit of that extra power you juice out of that silicon cunt
Jack Adams
>He thinks i have an intel CPU >He thinks the extra power is significant or that i pay for a powerbill and not a fixed price every month for my rent regardless of power used
Robert Gutierrez
Not with AMD (unless you buy a really low end board)
you should really think about dropping the i7 and get a new Ryzen instead, especially if you don't focus on gaming much. They come with good air coolers as standard so you can save anoter chunk of money for the corsair. What are you gonna do with it?
I just wanna mount my PC in my server rack, halp plz
Ryder Reyes
Ask loonix gook tips
Ryder Jones
>no pentium G4560 in the OP anymore shit thread
Tyler Reyes
1050 poorfag here, the reseller actually had a freshly returned 1060 on hand, what luck. Thank you for convincing me
Angel Carter
Tdie is the actual die temperature reported by sensors in the silicon. Tctl is Tdie+20 offset AMD put out so that X-models would have their fans at higher RPM on a static temp/RMP curve.
Liam Parker
G4560 is superseded by coffee lake G5400, that is still worse than 2200G.
Aiden Sullivan
I've seen that you might have to update your BIOS if you get a B350 board with the new Ryzen CPUs and that you can only do it with the 1000 series Ryzen, how are you supposed to know what BIOS the motherboard ships with? Or should I just grab a X470 motherboard?
And also, is it worth going for the 2700X over the 2600X if I'm coming from a i5 3570k? I do some hobbyist photo and video editing in Lightroom and Adobe as well as some 1080p gaymen but is there any risk that 6 cores will become outdated any time soon with how fast things have started to move towards 8 cores? Looking at benchmarks there doesn't really seem to be that much difference between the 2600X and 2700X since the clockspeeds are so close to each other.
Hudson Reed
I run Hyper-V virtual machines, Sony Vegas video rendering and also 2K gaming.
as opposed to 2200G, it's worse, yeah that's given, but the price two times less, even more so when mobo is taken into consideration. You got me intrigued about 5400 though, it's at discount 55eurocoins in my area, but there's a not about it that it requires a chipset 3XX, which are those?
Julian Thomas
whats a good mobo for the 2700x still dont know but ive seen a few of those $200+ gaymen wifi ones are they worth it or just stick to the 150 dollar ones?
Adrian Sullivan
From what I saw when comparing you're only paying extra for the wifi.
