Is /g Into computer networking? How many of you have cisco certifications or equivalent?

How is programming even considered IT? I associate IT with the assets and infrastructure. Programming is in Software Development Land .

It's worth getting into anyways. Even with the shift to cloud, the fundamentals remain the same.

>few cables and typing a few commands
It is so so so much more than that.

Sure, a simple home network or even a small business would only require a basic firewall and NAT. When you start getting into multi-site networks, datacenters, etc, it becomes a hell of a lot more complex real quick.

may be that ipv6 suddenly gets adopted widely, may not, it should have happened a decade ago so I wouldn't bet on it

ipv4 is worth learning as it will stay in use atleast as a legacy technologyfor years to come

IPv4 is not being phased out. Not a chance. It will always be dual stack. Also, IPv6 is actually considerably easier than IPv4. Just learn IPv4 first though, then learn all the IPv6 shit.

Tell me I can do without the $1000 Cisco course, and just read up the material provided, to pass the CCNA course.

Thank you guys

I'm self learning right now, I bought this book CCNA Routing and Switching - Complete study guide by Todd Lammle. It's very good, but I do not have a reference. Take that as you will.

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>This is what programmers actually believe

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That cord setup looks very tidy. I don't think ill ever manage to be that organized and neat.

this is what being retarded looks like

I like this post

> t. first year "web developer"

I got a CCNA R/S and no one ever offered me a job.
I also realized that there isn't really a demand for it in my area.
It's still nice though to have an understanding of how networking and routing works in any job in IT.

Thats shit mate, why don't you move somewhere with more demand?

Wait a sec where do you live ?

Hahaha this code monkey thinks he knows anything about network dev/ops

Like an hour away from Palo alto. But I would never work there because of traffic and housing costs. It's just not worth it.
I'm just kind of chilling for now until my area gets annexed into the cancer

I worked mostly with Cisco R&S and now am working with NSX. It's pretty fun.

Probably won't certify though.

Why do children even bother posting here?

>Completed the 4 semesters but don't know if I want to sit the end exam due to having to pay for the final exam but not the module exams
It's a decent experience to learn, going on to a Cyber Security Degree. See where that takes me.

Is pornography allowed in Jow Forums?

Mmmm. That curves.

>Be me
>spend 10 years working shit night job moving heavy objects
>decide it sucks
>go back to school get ccna
>get contract job with just ccna for 40k a year
>get hired into company 10 months later for 80K
>still have no fucking clue what I am doing

Guys, what do you think about RITx cybersecurity micromaster on edx?

Networking requires a degree of physical skill as well as knowledge, Networking guys are the chads rounding up the STEM girl pussy while pajeet the beta programmer cries on Jow Forums.

this is one of the most reality-divorced things I've ever seen posted anywhere ever.

>Is way more interesting.
i don't agree
it is easily more lucrative or at least makes you a better sell, but it's such a fucking boring routine, too much sitting and waiting

No certs and administer a few cisco devices. 80k

Id like to dig deeper into that, because I've always questioned exactly how much work is being done. If the system is running smoothly, surely there isn't much to do.

80k monthly nice that's why it's better than programming

Year. No fucking way that's per month.

I cheated my way to a D to get Cisco cert.
I did literally nothing in this "pace yourself" class until a month before the semester ended.

wtf is wrong with you guys?
Why not both?
It is better to know programming and networking. Both are important and can land you nice job.

How did you manage that?

Just got a networking grad job with a major european telecom, $42k starting which goes a long way in my city. They even pay $5k towards any cert costs I want (CCNA etc). Still not sure what the most lucrative area of networking is (in Europe), would love some advice, because the opportunity to specialise is there.

Yeah Software Defined Networks are only going to get more important. Its all about automation so you better learn how to program.

Got my CCNA and heading for CCNP, am working for a minimum wages soulless job at NOC.

Wouldn't it be difficult to get a development position as an "IT guy"

>Got my CCNA and heading for CCNP, am working for a minimum wages soulless job at NOC.
Stop whining. That NOC job is an entry level job. The only way is UP from there. You kids want everything now. Dont you have any concept of hard work bringing the rewards you desire?
Entitled generation, for sure.

> If the system is running smoothly, surely there isn't much to do.
there isn't, which is why most network people consult and aren't full time at one business for years
it's not needed outside of huge enterprises

entitled is synonymous with deserving
you mean self-entitled, which is the concept that a person believes they are entitled when they are not

People on Jow Forums seem to have to stick to a particular aspect of IT. Like, my main work is C++ programming but I research plenty of other topics at home, e.g. networking, system administration, web development, circuit design, etc... It just broadens your professional possibilities and makes you discover new things that you may like.

For me it was worth pursuing, I have 5 CCNA's and 3 CCNP's . . . but my company wanted us to be certified and paid the way for training, videos, Cisco classes. Started as PC monkey at $13/hr. Now make 120K, been with company 15 years. They gave increase and promotion with each cert earned.

Planning to get a CCIE?

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Most businesses are in need of some kind of bespoke automation. The less-clued ones will happily let you build something to meet that need without worrying about, e.g., maintainability or long term support. You can build a bit of a portfolio that way.

Cybersec major in a networking course here; it's more fucky than programming. \]

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Sorry my cat walked on my keyboard
Can't be arsed to finish my post lol

It's not for me. Kudos to those that enjoy it.

Proper IT that isn't just resetting passwords is a good mix between the two, with an emphasis on programming.

Programming is IT dumb dumb. Your cert says Comp Sci doesn't mean it's not IT. They don't call it the "IT industry" for fun, it's a general term like "vehicle" that covers all things trasportation.

t. cancer, learn to green text

>t.onions

Based sysadmins

SDN is the future. Your CCNA will become obsolete in the next few years.