>when you unconsciously start hoarding data, because you know that things on torrents and the internet don't last forever >when you notice you have the beginnings of what appears to be a digital library >tfw you suddenly realize that you cannot possibly collect everything, not even a small, well defined area of a certain field >tfw we're losing tons of data every day, that we'll never be able to recover
It hurts so much, just thinking about it. I know I sound a bit OCD, in my defense I'm a librarian.
hard drivers are cheap internet wont be this free forever hoard while you can
Matthew Gomez
The library of Alexandria burned down. I think we can suffer the loss of a few especially weird porn clips or redundant novels or "tweets" or whatever other mundane shit we're hoarding user.
almost nothing is actually worth keeping what percentage of your library (measured by disk usage, not total file count) do you actually look at after you've downloaded it?
Ryan Adams
>"tfw we're losing tons of data every day, that we'll never be able to recover" stop using NTFS
Isaac Barnes
Not to go all save the rain-forest, but think of all the chemical inventions that have come about from studying strange and novel biological life. Then tell me how many developments came about from the terabytes of personal pictures, forum posts, server caches, and obscure amateur porn.
The point is not to look at it now, but rather 40 years from now.
Michael Baker
what's the absolute minimum, in your opinion, worth looking at 40 years from now? network engineering books? botany? porn (yes, but what sort, what format, what actresses/actors, etc?) tweets from accounts that had little to no interaction with other users?
Jace Myers
anons, in all seriousness, what knowledge would be worth deep stashing away? i have stuff like schematics for lithium backup monitors, solar arrays and ethanol stills, pdf size stuff i personally find useful reference if pajeet shuts it down
Oliver Harris
"rebuilding civilization" and "Mad Max for dummies" is useful if you also maintain a way to read that content
Henry Sanchez
How often do you find yourself downloading something that you once deleted, user?
>Then tell me how many developments came about from the terabytes of personal pictures, forum posts, server caches, and obscure amateur porn. See pic. But honestly, there's so much more than that on the internet, and you know it. Stop straw manning. What about old games for example? Nintendo fucking downloaded the NES Super Mario, then sold it back to their customers because they couldn't be arsed to keep their old data. The only reason we have it now, is because the fans preserved it, and kept moving the data, despite constant website shutdowns, threats of lawsuits and muh copyrights bullshit.
basically on an occasional (annual? semi-annual?) skyrim reinstall, and that's it. Sometimes some pdf I don't really want a lot but need anyway?
Connor Cooper
this thread just became a when shtf essential storage go drive, shed the flops of flaps and i bet you have 2 gigs worth of seed vault essentials on a usb
Aiden Adams
>network engineering books? Networks will be different, obsolete info. >botany? Plants will have different genes obsolete info. >porn (yes, but what sort, what format, what actresses/actors, etc?) Sure >tweets from accounts that had little to no interaction with other users? Sure
It's all about memories. Tb h, I don't save much else besides Jow Forums images. Anything that looks remotely interesting I'll save. I've got over 200k images now!
Gabriel Nelson
he's obviously talking about anime/manga/t.v/movie/gaymen garbage
>he believes the future wont have entertainment capable of contesting with the entertainment of today kek
Cameron Johnson
>I've got over 200k images now! huh, just beat me I'd love more suggestions there, seems more like /wsr/ though I use tixati as a torrent client, and the channels feature is actually kinda useful for pdf dumps but that's not applicable to post-shtf life also I'd keep usb+hdd usb+microsd copies, all in the same space
yea i guess so, for me its simple non microcontroller stuff i can build with a 12v soldering iron and broken electronics, if you can produce electricity, you can really have a comfy fallout, i do the hdd and the usb, i dont trust micro sd's but they are ultra portable
Robert Jackson
who cares? none of that matters.
Jace Jackson
the main thing is to have storage that you can power and read with a phone, since solar panels can actually recharge a phone reasonably well without having to have a lot of them.
Asher Bell
>open my PC to clean it off of dust >trembling and shaking as I take the gpu out What the FUCK is this?
Nathaniel Anderson
I hoard data and run backups too. I've lost a lot to the passage of time and cannot just download the data again.
Jacob Clark
the question is, how much further does an individuals base knowledge and info go, like, do you barebones pdf's or are you pulling how to video's?
Carson Adams
I used to have this fear too user. I just realized that every single piece of data WORTH saving is already being saved by the website it was first uploaded on. They save it because the popular and significant things are exactly what brings traffic to their websites.
Austin Fisher
I think the biggest chunk missing from my SHTF cache is imprisonment and slavery techniques what about for when your internet is temporarily out?
David Richardson
I've hoarded all my data since I was a kid. I still have CGA lemmings and buck rogers and laplink and stuff.
Be default I want to keep everything, I had to change my value of data to a system and to get my NAS stuff straight.
Now everything is categorized at least by year and keeping stuff is based on the probability I will use it again and how problematic it is to keep it.
It helped with deleting resumes from 1995 and 3 different pkziped versions of Warcraft2 and stuff like that.
Other things like pdf books or old pics and files from school are in the correct year folder and have a descriptive, searchable filename. My anxiety is way down.
>learn to use the archive bit
Adam Adams
in an emergency, phone is good short term, but when your trying to look at wiring diagrams for a car or similar, i guess less of a shtf and more post pajeet shutdown bunker lair storage, like what do you really need to reference, chemistry stuff? medical stuff?
Kevin Turner
It's a holy experience, welcome to the Adeptus Mechanicus
Kayden Campbell
I just think about the fact that im going to die someday and until then i have to mourn the loss of every person that i love that dies before me. keeps my mind from wandering into data being lost. Ive lost one hard drive in the 11 years
Bentley Lewis
>Nintendo fucking downloaded the NES Super Mario, then sold it back to their customers because they couldn't be arsed to keep their old data
I just don't understand how game companies could lose their old game data for games that earned thousands/millions of dollars. I work for a small company and we have shit backed up from the 80's that we'll probably never use again, but it's still there just in case.
Adam Miller
chemistry and trauma care definitely, plus low tech like steam/water/wind mills, basic metallurgy, probably a regional almanac for weather prediction (and therefore farming), regional geographical surveys
Leo Jones
any SHTF infodump should include the most basic levels of technology first, and work its way to its highest level pretty linearly rather than relying on others' ability to design and create a tool on their own
Daniel Thompson
Don't go outside. Nothing good can come from it.
Isaac Gutierrez
archiveteam, internet archive, datahoarder
Levi Garcia
Entropy is a bitch, if it's really important to you step up your game by using a web crawler to download stuff automatically.
>What about old games for example? Nintendo fucking downloaded the NES Super Mario, then sold it back to their customers because they couldn't be arsed to keep their old data. What the hell is that supposed to show me? It shows me that if people care about something it gets preserved.
That's my entire point, the internet is all voluntary information. It is a kind of free market of ideas. The shit gets flushed and anything of value gets remembered. There is no real tragedy here. No valuable information is being lost in contrast to all the other kind of ways information is being lost, because in those cases the information was made by others and not appreciated by people at large. And, sure, some lone thinker can write their magnum opus and publish it on the internet only for it to be ignored and then forgotten, but this is in no way unique to the digital age; the exact same thing would have happened (in fact would be far more likely to happen) if it was just an article rejected by academic journals, master copy thrown away by heirs who viewed it as little more than junk.
Carson Sanchez
>>when you unconsciously start hoarding data, because you know that things on torrents and the internet don't last forever >>when you notice you have the beginnings of what appears to be a digital library >>tfw you suddenly realize that you cannot possibly collect everything, not even a small, well defined area of a certain field >>tfw we're losing tons of data every day, that we'll never be able to recover
I save music. Lots of fucking music. Helped me get in touch with my emotions after a particularly low point in life and I want to distribute it to everyone who wants it (Coming soon). And magical horse content because people burn shit and 'twas fun times in need of some storage.
There might be tons of hidden gems that can very easily dissapear from the nets and might only exist on someones drive, gathering dust. I’ve also heard several cases of devs loosing all their data because of a crash, or drive failure because lol no backups.
Jayden Allen
It can feel good sometimes. For example I have a wallpaper that legit doesn't exist online anymore.
Jayden Taylor
I thought I had crippling anxiety.
I actually didn't, I was just doing shit I didn't want to do because I thought its what I was supposed to do.
Colton Reed
>see pic I would if FUCKING HIRO COULD KEEP THE FUCKING SERVERS RUNNING CUNT!
