>The current project leader has disappeared. We have had no contact with him since the end of January, and no meaningful contact for well over a year.
>The problem is that we currently have no ability to manage some of Void’s central resources. In the past, they were managed exclusively by the former project leader. voidlinux.eu/news/2018/05/serious-issues.html
This is what happens when you use a pointless little meme distro
Nicholas Richardson
a guy yesterday said that this is the best distro, better than gentoo. Well, it is dead. Nobody fucks with gentoo
Angel Brooks
>project leader just disappears
Dylan Bell
the absolute state of horsefuckers
Carson James
>Ian >this Redhat niggers are coming. Whoever is currently in charge of gentoo, they're next.
David Brown
>project leader gets kidnapped/killed/runs to mexico
Ayden Brown
homer_disappeares.gif
Jack Flores
>using the most autistic libc ever >not dying Well what the fuck did these guys expect? muslc is shit. Does fucking floating point math inside malloc() without saving/restoring FPU state. Programs complain and their only response is: put them yourself. What the fuck.
Dominic Nelson
Meh. It's been going on since January. Haven't really noticed anything particularlu detrimental during that time
Christian Lopez
God damn it. I hope this is resolved. This is such a great distro.
Austin James
How is glibc autistic? :^)
Jacob Martinez
If you read the blogpost they haven't had substantial contact with the dude for over a year, the only problem is that they've left one guy in charge of some important things. Once they resolve the ownership issue, it'll be fine. The distro isn't dying, or anything.
Hunter Thomas
i hope they stop using github
Nicholas Butler
Void linux uses musl and glibc Probably the only distro to offer both
first CentOS, now this. how is it that open source community projects keep having "ownership" issues? isn't the whole point that no one CAN own a community project?
Jaxson Scott
>isn't the whole point that no one CAN own a community project no, where did you get that idea? anyway they can fork if nothing else
William Hill
you mean disappear as in "doesn't respond emails and messages" or disappear as in "we searched and he's nowhere to find, probably became a crackhead and is living on the streets"
Leo Gonzalez
>distribution so minimalistic that the creator literally disappeared
William Jackson
maybe hes in a trip to the "other side" hehe
Matthew Campbell
Developers are bloat.
Ryan Garcia
i was under the impression that that was one of the main pros of GPLv2, as in, you can't have one sole owner/dictator because the community is free to make their own fork at any time. i'm not talking about the names or trademarks by the way, just the codebase itself.
Parker Campbell
The problem isn't about the code. I believe he's the only person with the passwords haha
Mason Roberts
Horsefuckers btfo
Jonathan Jones
>first CentOS what happened with CentOS?
Robert Smith
my penis
Joshua Reyes
Hope they reorganize soon.
It's the best distro I know.
Caleb Bailey
he didn't own the project (as in the code per se), but he owned the github account, the website and the IRC channel.
Ryder Diaz
This, it's 100% possible to have people waste their time and energy on something that never needed to be made in the first place. They could've fixed bugs in *actual* distributions instead of reinventing the wheel for the umpteenth time.
Oliver Scott
Agreed, gentoo could use more maintainers
Jonathan Wright
systemd is a difficult bug to fix
James Reed
They think about gitlab or some self hosting solution.
Elijah Scott
This is why you should only use distros backed by either companies or big communities, eg. Debian, Arch Linux, Fedora, Ubuntu, OpenSUSE, CentOS and now since is free for personal use RHEL.
Stop using distros made by someone in his basements
None of them offer LibreSSL by default. Not to mention runit and optional MUSL.
Also XBPS-SRC is freaking great.
Joseph Ortiz
This isn’t good
Nathan Roberts
Windows doesn't have this problem.
Daniel Green
Windows has its own problems.
David Russell
do they glow in the dark?
Nathaniel Reyes
That was me. I can admit when I'm wrong. I cursed the whole project by saying it was better than gentoo. It was just supposed to be a bait thread title, but I guess blasphemy is not a joke. I'm thinking of installing gentoo to now to atone for my sins. Besides, it was void that ended up depreciated in the end.
Chase Edwards
>either companies or big communities at that point just buy apple and put down the ricing
Logan Allen
Why would they want to fix shitty distros?
Blake Baker
You definitely need a big community so that there's lots of testers.
Alexander Mitchell
Loaded question aside, it would take less time to fix the problems in another distribution than it would be to start over and then be left with your own (probably worse) problems and have less people to handle it. All in the name of nothing since what you're working on has already been done better by someone else. These are autists trying to be hackers like in the movies. What they don't understand is how software development is actually a highly cooperative field and they are going to have to accept that they don't know it all and can't do it all or fall into obscurity like so many others.
Dominic Green
They're a subset of CIA niggers, so yeah.
James Cook
Good luck gaining enough influence and power in their cults to convince the old guard that they should support runit, libressl, and muscl. And you thought getting into private trackers was hard?
Gavin Gomez
Lennart thinks he knows it all, and look where he ended up.
James Cox
The (((Systemd))) CIA-NSAs killed (or arrested) him
>runit >new package manager >all other packages are taken directly from upstream
Shouldn't you be lecturing debian in patching everything to hell or backporting drivers from newer kernels to work on their ancient versions duplicating thousands of hours of work
Yeah how about you get optimus working? That single act would do so much more for GNU/Linux than creating another distribution in which it won't work. But that's too difficult for you all and you would rather make a NEW package manager so software is even less compatible between distributions? More fragmentation with worse functionality because you don't have the users to test for bugs. Honestly, it's so fucking stupid to support this crap that I know you're a part of the project and are trying to justify to yourself, not me, why it's worth saving.
Christian Turner
Kek so much for the next Arch
Mason Rogers
i mean it sure is little thats the whole point
Caleb Edwards
Void Linux? More like void of maintainers
Elijah Williams
>the state of linux LMAO JUST USE WINDOWS YOU RETARDED NIGGERS
Ian Cook
The solution is to not use nvidia hardware or use windows
>blame the user instead of doing a better job >the solution is not to support >50% of laptops with GPUs Yeah, void is dead in the water and you are a fucking retard aspie.
Andrew White
It's time to show some love to other Distros without Systemd
as Alpine, Artix, Gentoo, Slackware, Parabola, Devuan, Archbang, etc
>use an operating system on a hardware configuration that the company doesn't support >blame the operating system
Joseph Morales
>router os
Parker Gray
>not using bumblebee
Aiden Jenkins
>use these systemd distros what if i like to have a choice?
Oliver Jenkins
This is why open source development is a joke.
Gavin Green
>don't support widespread technology >argue with someone on Jow Forums why you're pet project isn't a waste of time
Go ahead and say whatever you want. We all know that this is a failed project with no talent to accomplish what other projects haven't done already. You're not fooling anyone but yourself.
I've used bumblebee and it's far from an ideal solution. There's no actual hotswitching between iGPU and dGPU. You need to explicitly say which GPU to use when running your application or always have the dGPU on, only able to switch to the iGPU by logging in and logging out. All problems that will be present on void because they would rather spend their time making a new package manager. It's been done dozens of times and there's lots of references to pull from unlike supporting optimus. It should come as no surprise to anyone that the "developers" are only doing the easy work instead of tackling problems that are going to be present in every distro (including void).
Jaxson Morris
Artix & Archbang don't have systemd yet they support AUR & Pacman if that's what you wanted
Doesn't Gentoo have a big community and documentation quality comparable to that of Arch?
Connor Allen
wow what an amazing argument
Evan Jones
>no surprise to anyone that the "developers" are only doing the easy work I don't think you understand how supporting MUSL and compiling everything with LibreSSL works. Not to mention all the patches.
If you think Optimus is so important, go whine to one of your large and important companies, so they fix it.
Or, you know, write to Nvidia.
Brayden Cooper
>>don't support widespread technology >widespread technology in gaming laptops, while 90% of laptops just use intel iGPUs
>>argue with someone on Jow Forums why you're pet project isn't a waste of time All of linux desktop development is a waste of time when windows and mac os just werk
>it would take less time to fix the problems in another distribution than it would be to start over and then be left with your own that's a bullshit assumption that brainlets like to tout over and over again despite the piles of evidence to the contrary. New projects are started all the time, and often move quite fast, while old projects remain riddled with bugs and move slowly. This happens everywhere in the tech world, from startups vs large companies, to competition between open source projects. The only possible exception to this rule I can think of is openbsd, because they actually bother to proactively fix and prevent bugs more than any other OS out there.
>These are autists trying to be hackers like in the movies. you mean like yourself?
>software development is actually a highly cooperative field That's a very naive oversimplified view of the world. Programmers are lazy and self interested: youtube.com/watch?v=_e6BKJPnb5o
David Powell
>software development is actually a highly cooperative field you mean Copy-Paste from Stack Overflow & Github?
Daniel Martinez
>bother to proactively fix and prevent bugs more than any other OS out there. and they so do by throwing out code with starting fresh frequently
Ryan Evans
>01.04 when will redditfucks stop it with their ebin fucking jokes
Isaiah Powell
lmaoooooo
Matthew Rogers
>The problem is that we currently have no ability to manage some of Void’s central resources. In the past, they were managed exclusively by the former project leader.
They don't have a contingency plan for something like this? Being a community-driven project, I'm sure they would have taken something like this into account should something unfortunate happen.
Adrian Adams
How is artix anyways. I hear even less about it than void but I've been interested in it as a second choice of sorts
Andrew Cox
>Well, it is dead. Nobody fucks with gentoo Funtoo > Gentoo though They'd need to merge though, perks from Funtoo like git feat. the manpower of Gentoo devs
Sebastian Cooper
Hope everything works out It's one of the best distros right now
Logan Rodriguez
It's not, just install Debian and replace systemd with sysvinit. Takes like 3 commands to do
Isaac Johnson
Some of the packages in the package manager are built around system-d which would likely lead to compatibility issues
Nathaniel Carter
The developers don't take it very seriously. >The installer doesn't work. >Website is shit >Logo was made in 10 minutes in MSPaint >Forum full of unhappy users complaining about instability Basically it was just released as a containment distro to minimize the backlash from Manjaro OpenRC suddenly being dropped
What about antiX? >Basically it was just released as a containment distro to minimize the backlash from Manjaro OpenRC suddenly being dropped Yeah that shit sucks, Manjaro OpenRC was distro kino. Void was giving me problems with my laptop's wifi so I just gave up and went to Manjaro systemdicks, don't have time or anything else.
Nathaniel Taylor
>I just gave up and went to Manjaro systemdicks Installing that right now. I looked at all the other systemd-less Void replacements, but I really need to just focus on working. I'm still keeping Void on another computer but I can't have it be my daily driver while the management the project is in limbo The state of non-systemd distros has never been worse. Manjaro dropped openRC, Void is turmoil, FreeBSD has lost too many maintainers, and Gentoo requires too much free time to jump into. This whole situation is a damn shame.