/hsg/ - Home Server General

>weather station
what the fuck?

Pasta from old threads.

--> Quick Questions Quick Replies Why would I want a NAS/Homeserver?
If you ask why then you don't need it.

>I want a NAS/HTPC/Plex what should I get?
RPi3 or Odroid XU4/HC1. Odroid upper models has USB 3 and USB bus separated from the Ethernet one.

>B-But muh ARM
Then check the onboard x86 like J4105B-ITX, J4205B-ITX or J4205-ITX. All of them have SATA and USB 3.

>What's the best [software] for doing [ask]?
Specify you question and elaborate. If you want help put something from your side.

>Which disk is better for my homeserver?
The general opinion minus some details are that WD Greens are enough if you deactivate parkdrive, and WD Red are Green overpriced. Also Toshiba and HGST are pretty good.

---> FAQ & Tips

You don't have your own weather station?
How do you know what it's like outside?

It's irrelevant if you're NEET or if you have a car.

Can someone tell me the best drives and raid array for a torrent box? well I won't actually be seeding from it, I use cloud seedboxes but I want to organize my downloads since my WD RED HD failed and is kill so I want to rebuild a purpose media meme PC.

My irrigation system actually uses the weather data to determine how much to water and when. If it's cool and rainy, it won't water much, but if it's dry and hot, it will water more frequently/for longer periods of time to do deep watering.

HGST Deskstar NAS drives are the best you can get - by far - for the money. backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-stats-for-2017/

so as expected you don't actually have a use for them. carry on.

I get the idea but I kinda hate Ansible.

Why the fuck can't it be more like portage ebuilds [which at least have some structure] rather than a collection of low end code monkey hack scripts?

Chef/Puppet also have their own issues.

Actually, RAID array for a torrent box won't have immense performance requirements, so you can pretty strongly focus on cost per TB and reducing drive count [to pay for less controllers, ports, power usage]. Basically, buy what's pretty cheap and RAID6 it or whatever.

>If it's cool and rainy, it won't water much, but if it's dry and hot, it will water more frequently/for longer periods of time to do deep watering.
That's actually pretty cool. Well done.

Sorry, I didn't know there was a pasta. It's been a while since I've seen a HSG

What's the cheapest rack server I can get, preferably second hand? I want to have several VMs for NAS, App Server etc

Don't worry user. I've tried a few times to make the general agian but nobody wanted to keep it up. I always have the pasta in a file so gg.

>nobody wanted to keep it up
Because it isn't a general. You just call it that while you shitpost the same thing.

I bought mine for virtualization.

Once you get into virtualization and running services (routers, fileservers, http servers, etc etc) you start to realize just how hamstrung you are in this regard trying to do it on a consumer desktop.

Got the old ass alienware tower as a simple windows fileshare to stream my music to my devices, and have an r61 with arch linux running pihole. Anything cool I can do to “practice” some networking type stuff like projects to test my knowledge and such.

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Anybody gotten the free Meraki stuff from the webinars without actually working in IT? How thoroughly do they check out a "business"? Is a custom domain name and plausible homepage enough?

Apart from eBay are there any good websites to get cheap old servers/computers?

clean your room.

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I like to mess around with uBO and uMatrix a lot, and was interested in getting a rasbpi for pi-hole. Besides getting a raspbi, learning a bit of linux, and setting up a bit of networking. Should I do so just for an extra layer of protection?

Hey nerds - is there a small case that fits a mini-ITX board & PSU + like 4 or 5 3.5" hard drives?

BONUS ROUND: without catching on fire

Fractal Design Node 304

>Fractal Design Node 304
That case makes my tiny penis hard

Thanks broski

What's the point in having a home server if you need to go through an ISP to do anything useful with it?

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my car is a jeep with a bikini top tho

>J4205-ITX
Thank you:)

???
>what's the point of having a car if you need oil to do anything with it?

>J4205
why does AMD not fill this niche?

I don't know if this classifies as an hsg question but can you RAID 0 or concatenate two physical 500GB disks into one 1TB virtual disk and RAID 1 that virtual disk with another 1TB physical disk, with one RAID controller?
t. poorfag

That's how I got myself into the industry.

>or if you have a car.
>weather conditions dont affect your choice to drive somewhere
So what if there is a blizzard going on, fuck it, I'm going to the beach.

any manner of strange magic is possible by LVM

That's why we are here user. No problem.

I never wondered it, now that you ask. Maybe AMD can't fil levery niche since it has to defend other fronts too.

If you can't be assed to set up a VPN, you can also tunnel web (or other stuff) traffic through ssh.

clean you room pls.

I have bunch of IDE and SATA hard drives I want to run off a home server to access when I need to without having to juggle them around/buy external enclosures for them. I also have an extra PC. What would I need to do to create a home server? Sorry if I'm being too general.

put the drives in the extra PC. Put the Linux (or BSD, if you find Linux offensive for some reason) of your choice on it. Hook it up to whatever home network you have. Set up some way to share files from it (if you want to access it from windows, that means Samba). Store things on the drives.

Great! I'll try that. Any distro you'd recommend in particular?

Gentoo

Odroid C2:
>Router
>VPN
>DNS/DHCP
>Torrent daemon
>couchpotato/sickrage
>personal wiki
>mailserver
>fileserver

Raspberry Pi 2:
>Steam bot
>plane tracking with rtl-sdr
>backup DNS/DHCP

Feel gudman

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What weather station do you have?
I always wanted one.

>Games and movies for my projector
>Web server
>Torrents
>Fileserver

I've upped total storage capacity from the picture

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>4 raspberry's
>individual cases

Stack em

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This.

Jow Forums did I do good?

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4770k, 32gb DDR3-2400, samsung 840 pro boot drive on the onboard sata controller (might add a second for raid 1). 10x 2tb in raidz2 connected to 2x dell h310s flashed to LSI p20 firmware in IT mode.

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>Hosting public services from home

ISHYGDDT

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May I ask?

>VPN
Did you connect from the outside?

>DNS/DHCP
How it behavies? I always wanted to put DNS on mine (XU4)

>Steam bot
Bot for what?

Thank you user.

>Did you connect from the outside?
I always connect from the outside.

>How it behavies? I always wanted to put DNS on mine (XU4)
Bind9 is godlike. It requires some config though.
I use ISC-DHCP-server to dynamically update DNS. Works like a charm.

>Bot for what?
To farm tradingcards from asset flipping games on multiple accounts

>I always connect from the outside.
The times I connect from the outside I usually only require SSH or Transdrone. Should I bother to learn and install VPN only for that?

>Should I bother to learn and install VPN only for that?
Nope. I connect from the outside with my tablet to:
>stream movies/shows
>stream games from desktop
>not have my shit spied on when connected to a public wifi
>circumvent restrictive firewalls

That's what I thought. Thank you user.

If you're gonna go the VPN way, I highly recommend Softether VPN.

you are fucking retarded and any employer that would care or be impressed with your shitty raspberries is a really dumb one.

>freenas and nas4free both end 32-bit support

DAMNIT
You had one fucking job bsd...
The only fucking thing you are good at is legacy hardware...
Modern hardware support is non existent and now not even that.
FUCK

I guess I'll have to import all my setup to a Debian/ZFS.

Is that motherboard temp right?

This is nice.

Sorry if this question is too retarded, but what does it need that massive graphics card for?

Are you just forwarding the mail from the VPS?
having a static IP doesn't make it anymore trustworthy

>Not understanding basic security concepts

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Runnig and email server from a static IP address home connection is definitely possible, setup dkim and follow standards and after not much time all the major providers will stop blacklisting you.
I have been running mine for ages.

>wiki
Why?

why do you need a backup dns? does your router not have dns either?

This is a lot cuter

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what does the lsi flash do? open some raid stuff?

What else do you use it for? what hypervisor?

Just throw it out user, all 32bit cpu's are literal trash.

a celeron will outpace it and use 300% less power

>not using compute modules

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In IT mode, it removes all raid functionality so the card functions as an HBA. That's exactly what you want for zfs. I just threw ubuntu mate 18.04 on it for testing. Right now it's just a file server.

>having a static ip doesn't actually make it anymore trustworthy
Yes it does. Hell, my ISP didn't even allow me to send any mail, and closed their relay down a while ago
And even if you did manage to get an ISP that allows you to send SMTP, outlook blocks any traffic from dynamic ips

Granted its not the only step. You need to get SPF, DKIM, and DMMARC before you stop being sent to spam

yes, racks are a monumental waste of space.

image related is the based holy grail of home lab/home server.

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no, that case is trash. only 12 hot swap bays in 4U? what a waste. if you're going to get a 4u chassis it might as well be the supermicro 846

>>Not understanding basic security concepts

Not understanding the security implications of hosting from home.

You're working with consumer level hardware, with hobbyist knowledge. You're damn near guaranteed to have a vulnerable system. Of course getting owned is unlikely unless you do something retarded like set up root ssh access with a weak password. But your confidence just reeks of dunning-kruger.

I don't like those little roller chassis servers for enterprise use. Too many braindead management types who are like "oh it'll fit in the tiny crack of space in the boiler room" or "oh we'll put it on the secretary's desk next to her laptop" so we don't need a server room at all!

doesn't it have an option to do that anyway? Or just raid 0 every drive to pass it through?

as long as you turn of wbc then running zfs through raid logic is fine. how much did you buy the 310 for?

some ISP's won;t even allow hosting, that's just the ISP wanting you to upgrade to a business account.

>outlook blocks any traffic from dynamic ips
This is new

spf/dkim should be on the hostname, not the IP

IR mode can pass single drives to the OS, but everyone recommends IT mode for fewer problems and higher performance with ZFS. I got two h310s for $55 shipped on ebay. You just need to tape two pins (yannickdekoeijer.blogspot.com/2012/04/modding-dell-perc-6-sas-raidcontroller.html) and then flash via an efi shell (ciamician.wordpress.com/2015/03/06/flashing-your-dell-perc-h310-to-it-firmware-uefi/) to get them to work for ZFS.

and??

>consumer level hardware
>implying
Also what's the difference between consumer and enterprise? hardware is hardware

>with hobbyist knowledge.
Again, implying

>You're damn near guaranteed to have a vulnerable system.
Literally every system in the world has vulnerabilities.

>Of course getting owned is unlikely unless you do something retarded
There we go, moral of the story - if you're a retard don't do it. Goes for a lot of things in life.

it technically works but the beauty of something like ZFS is that on a pass through adapter the dataset is recognized immediately by any other ZFS system when the same disk subsystem is attached through another pass through adapter.

when you run each individual disk in "jbod" or "raid 0" the RoC writes controller metadata to the beginning of each disk which isn't inherently a problem but the config still belongs to the RoC which means importing disks requires similar controllers if an adapter goes down or you migrate to another chassis / enclosure

and... "WHOOPS SOMEONE SPILLED COFFEE IN THE FILE SERVER, IT COME FIX RIGHT NAO"

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>Mail rejected by Outlook for policy reasons. We generally do not accept email from dynamic IP's as they are not typically used to deliver unauthenticated SMTP email to an Internet mail server. If you are not an email/network admin please contact your Email/Internet Service Provider for help. spamhaus.org maintains lists of dynamic and residential IP addresses.

>SPF/dkim should be the hostname
Yep. Those are just steps to do after getting a static ip

>Also what's the difference between consumer and enterprise? hardware is hardware

And what is hardware with shitty software with no support after the release of the next model? Or hardware designed to have an impressive spec sheet in Walmart at the lowest price possible? Clueless cunt.

>Again, implying

Not implying at this point, after reading your replies it's glaringly obvious.

>if you're a retard don't do it.

In this case it's "you're a retard if you do it". It's comparably cheap to host public shit in cloud.

If you still insist, at least have a professionally hosted load balancer pointing at your home server.

ooooooook...

That supermicro case alone costs about the same as my entire build did, including the hard disks.

Hosting things from home is completely fine, and I say that as someone who once left a Raspberry Pi connected to the internet with the default password and only noticed when the ISP mailed me asking why my IP was scanning ports.
Sure, if you forget to set up any kind of authentication, you're probably going to get intruders on your machine. You also risk that happening every time you run a file you downloaded from the internet. It's not a big deal.

Holy shit, how mad can one person get.

You sound like a dell sales rep.
>You need this enterprise solution for the security of your home

There's plenty of good consumer-level hardware, you can pick up an edgerouter x for £50 that afaik is just as good as enterprise level shit (please, if you know of any vulnerabilities,correct me if I'm wrong) and constantly gets updated.

once your past that, an updated apache server running on any old shitter device on a separate network is just as secure.

if you can escape that, transverse over a network to get to your secret stash of yuri porn, you're in the wrong game.

posting mine because why not

>dell r710 with 32 GB ram and 16 TB storage (6 x 4TB Hitachi drives in RAID 6)
>full ubiquiti network
>ubiquiti cuck-key because i didn't know any better

the ubiquiti shit owns. i fucking despise networking, and after fucking around with a refurb cisco switch for a week and getting nowhere, i caved and bought a full ubiquiti stack. no regrets, the dashboard owns and it all just works perfectly. got a ubiquiti pro-grade wifi adaptor too, which owns.

i run about 8 VMs for various purposes:
>xen host
>plex server
>private cloud server
>web server
>dns/utp server
>linux fuck around server
>windows 7 vm for reasons
>backup server

roast my shit user.

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what are you looking at? MSRP?

you can get the chassis for 365 shipped. that rosewill chassis isn't much cheaper.

>left a Raspberry Pi connected to the internet with the default password and only noticed when the ISP mailed me asking why my IP was scanning ports.

Thanks for the chuckle

I had a look through my fail2ban logs and a surprising amount of attempts were using the pi's default credentials, must be pretty common

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Huh, I didn't know the 864s were that cheap used. I had that rosewill 4u since I bought it in like 2012 on sale anyway.

Are there deals on any supermicro 4us with sas expanders?

sounds like mirai

Have a similar setup only with a 610, have you got the x5650's in there?

What do you have the unifi AP as well? I'm still using my ISP's homehub in bridge-mode
Should switch over to XCP-ng, citrix is is going cuk moad win xen
Is your plex server in a docker or running on a host?
what cloud server software are you using?

Nice setup anyway.

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