/pcbg/ PC Building General

>Assemble a part list
pcpartpicker.com/
>Example gaming builds and _monitor_ suggestions; click on the blue title to see notes
pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/
>Learn how to build a PC (You can find a lot more detailed videos on channels like Bitwit)
youtube.com/watch?v=69WFt6_dF8g
>How to install Win7 on Ryzen
pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1
>DO NOT OVERCLOCK ON RYZEN 2000 SERIES
If you are on the new X470 or B450 platforms letting precision boost 2 do its job gets better performance

If you want help:
>State the budget & CURRENCY for your build
>List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

CPUs:
>NO Core i7/5/3 7000 series. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE
>NO Ryzen 1000 series. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY THE Ryzen 2000 SERIES
>R3 2200G - Bare minimum gaming WITH/WITHOUT a graphics card (Low end)
>R5 2600X - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPU (Mid range)
>R7 2700X - Best gaming CPU / VM Work / Streaming / Video editing (High end)
>TR 1950X/Used Xeon - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing (HEDT)

RAM:
>Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal
>Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports

Graphics cards:
>Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon)
1080p
>MSRP of standard 1080p cards: 1050Ti, 140USD; 1060 3GB, $200; 1060 6GB, $230; RX 570 4GB, $170; RX 580 4GB, $200
>GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match
1440p
>GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced
>GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match
2160p (4K)
>GTX 1080Ti

General:
>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
>A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor

Previous:

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Other urls found in this thread:

aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=708045&initiative_id=AS_20180507131040&SearchText=lga1150
pcpartpicker.com/list/vN3cTB
twitter.com/SFWRedditImages

Non fanboy CPU recommendations

>R3 2200G - Gaming WITHOUT a graphics card
>G5400 - HTPC, web browsing, or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card
>i3 8100 - Budget gaming builds
>R5 2600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs (especially the R5 2600 for multithread perf)
>R7 2700 / i7 8700K - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing

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First for amd

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inb4 butthurt indian OP posts his autistic bitchfit

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posting again, blease resbond

I'm really retarded when it comes to this. How does this sound for H I G H end 1080p gaming with possibilities to upgrade to 1440 later on? Also want to be able to do some editing with Photoshop, InDesign, Premiere Pro (not 4K), and Illustrator.

CPU: i7-8700
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z370-H
GPU: Asus ROG STRIX GTX 1080
RAM: 2x8 GB 3000 mhz Corsair Vengeance RGB
PSU: 500w evga
Storage: 240 GB Samsung EVO 860 SSD and 1TB dogshit hard drive
Case: Corsair Spec-Alpha

Is it a dumb build? 1080 is overkill? My friend said if I wanna go balls to the wall with the other shit I might as well

You missed it

>Cpu that cant overclock
>z370
>Asus
>Corsair
>Inadequate 500 watt psu
Yes your build does suck

Too late, get rekt jew

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>You never post benchmarks or links
I'm not going to bother. Everyone knows you're a lying, manipulative shill by now already. There's no point in putting forth the effort to find a benchmark or video link again when you just say it doesn't count and spam the same cherry picked garbage. People have posted them before but you just ignore it and repeat the same spam.

500w is plenty for that build. It won't draw over 400.
But the locked cpu with unlocked board really makes no fucking sense, yes.

I like the Corsair aesthetic, already have some stuff from them so thought I would complete the set, what's wrong with it?
Also, what's wrong with asus?

Don't wanna do any overclocking besides maybe RAM. I'm too shit at PC's to do it.

What's wrong with the Z370? WhatCoffee Lake board should I get instead?
The PSU I was unsure of myself, it's the one I already have. But every calculator I have checked tells me I'm a couple watts above recommended, and a good amount over what I need. I will be upgrading later though. To a corsair one with 650w that is

Based

Don't bother with the pcpartpicker power consumption think, its very misleading

Could be better. If you have a 144Hz monitor, graphics card is fine but CPU is overkill. Can get a cheaper mobo. Get a better SSD if you don't already own that

You want a z370 or else you cant oc your ram. Get the cheapest z370 you can, they go for about 100 bucks. Its worth the extra money over the b360

Kinda want the build to last a couple years, what CPU would still handle gaming and some editing? Also what motherboard? SSD is already bought, I might get a second one later

Should I get the 2700 or 2700x? I don't want to deal with extra heat and the I think the heatsink has wayyyy too much RGB for the 2700x, however, the performance is around 10% better than the 2700, give or take. What should I do? I have a Crosshair Hero VII X470. Has a 1300x in there at the moment. hlp

>I'm not going to bother.
It's because you can't. You have no data, fanbitch.

I post data, you don't.

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What's with Jow Forums and AMD niggers? Even Adored pointed out that AyyMD attracts the most obnoxious and dumb scum as their loyal fanbase.

I'm okay with spending a couple extra bucks for looks, so I'll go with the rog strix, it matches the sharp edges and the red

>Also, what's wrong with asus?
asus is biostar if biostar tried to pretend its premium, asus is low quality trash pretending its not low quality.

>aesthetic
are you retarded? that shit doesn't matter and if you think it does then go buy a mac

>What's wrong with the Z370
your cpu is locked and can use z370s' features

R5 2600/X, i5 8400 (Photoshop). i7 8700 is fine if you have the cash laying around

I would always go for X personally.

Is there any major con when buying a cheap motherboard?
What should I look out for when buying cheap motherboards? specifically for LGA 1150 socket.
aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=708045&initiative_id=AS_20180507131040&SearchText=lga1150

Well adored lying about shit like the 8400 wont run at full speed on b360 boards would explain why he attracts drones

Whats with you and samefagging pajeet?

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Xfr2 on the x series is probably worth it. Its faster than a manual oc

2 cores is literally depreciated for desktop use. It can't do anything but one task at a time, any typical bloated Wangblows install will cause stuttering in game, not to mention even running it with shit like Discord will be challenging. Anyone recommending the G4560 or refresh is a literal marketer at this point. It's dead Jim. Buy the 2200G or if you want Intel get the 8100. 4C/4T is the bare minimum now. Anything cheaper is trash (besides used shit).

>aliexpress mobos
just no

Daily dose

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I don't use words like AyyMD. But yeah, the ones posting data are all me.

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The guy that keeps trying to shill dual cores in the OP has been outed already for being indian, i'd just ignore anything the retard says.

Same

Youd be wrong

>2 cores is literally depreciated for desktop use.
Your post purchase rationalization is getting pretty hilarious

>4C/4T is the bare minimum now.
Get fucked, upselling jew.

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Housefires

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6 coffee cores are faster than 8 ryzen cores in vast majority of task

Does the toilet witch scare you?

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pcpartpicker.com/list/vN3cTB
R8 and advice?
Gayming with 950$ Budget

8400 is cool and comfy

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>asus is biostar if biostar tried to pretend its premium, asus is low quality trash pretending its not low quality

I didn't know. What are some examples of good quality then?

>are you retarded? that shit doesn't matter and if you think it does then go buy a mac

What if it matters to me? I don't even find Mac's to be visually appealing. Why can't my system perform well and look good as well? What's wrong with that? Or is that just a meme on this general, that everything RBG and anything that looks nice is unecessary and stupid?

>your cpu is locked and can use z370s' features
Sure, but I want to OC the RAM. What board could I get instead then?

I do have the cash. No real budget besides not throwing money for no reason. As I said I'm willing to use a couple bucks on looks.

U want intel for ur gaymens

*consumes more power than a 4.3ghz 8 core with hyperthreading*

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>Sure, but I want to OC the RAM.
What kind of difference are you expecting? Or do you want to do it just for fun? Not the same guy, but I just don't see the reasoning.

Did you watch his recent video where the 2200G annihilated the G5400 despite having slightly lower single threaded performance?
Same answer to you. Intel has higher single thread performance yet their 2C/4T CPU is losing badly to AMD's true quad core.

The reason why is 2C/4T is shit. And remeber, CPU benchmarks are done (usually) on clean Windows installs with no background applications running besides MSI Afterburner. It's not representative of real world Windows usage. Any type of decompression or installation workload will bring your PC to a screeching halt, I know because I've used a dual core before.

>60c on a $150 water cooler
AHAHAHHAHAHHA

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>avx
No one cares, 8400 is for games

You can turn off the RGB.
A 2700X is generally going to be more power efficient than an overclocked 2700 since it can downclock itself.
You can also try a negative voltage offset with the 2700X at stock settings to cut down on power and, if you're lucky, maintain the same clocks.

He corrected himself. He said it will, but it's an overclock, which is true. You have to change something in intellisense which voids your warranty to get the performance benchmarkers are showing in the 8400. Lmao. cherry picking one game

Wow, 12W more than the 1600X sure is a housefire! Good thing you can get a bunch of extra gaming perf with the i5 8400!

I'm white. You can tell because I'm smarter than you, nigger

I'm not a dumpster diver to be curious about how 2/4 cpus are doing. If you're going to compare ryzen with intel's offerings, do it with 8700K.

Fuck if I know, my friend told me that's what allows me to get the speed that is advertized, and I thought that would be smart to do. As I said, I know fuck all, but the Z370 barely costs any more than the other CL compatible boards, all the while the ROG STRIX board looks much better on the z370 version. Might get it just for that desu

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Has anyone oced corsair 3000mhz ram higher than the xmp default? Was considering trying to get it to 3200mhz

Nice goalpost move, intel is inefficient and you cant even accept it.

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>Did you watch his recent video where the 2200G annihilated the G5400 despite having slightly lower single threaded performance?
By price/perf, the G5400 still wins in the HWUB video, and often provides hundreds of FPS. Anyway with a GTX 1050 the G5400 will provide the same perf as the 2200G for significantly less money. Bamboozled again

Not him, but
>AVX again

>Fuck if I know, my friend told me that's what allows me to get the speed that is advertized, and I thought that would be smart to do
While that's true you're talking about a small difference since that's a lower end locked CPU. It's like getting premium gas in a Civic. Not going to make much of a difference.

You're wasting your money getting a Z370 board with a locked CPU though. No harm in doing it, but a waste is a waste.

>another avx
I dont care

>Using the biggest intel shills on the internet as a defense that intel isnt a housefire

Why would I give a shit about Intel's $380 housefire? I don't want to have to delid and watercool a CPU just to fucking use it. The whole argument was about Intel's worthless Pentium lineup, you're just trying to change the subject.

Intel is a housefire but the 8400 with its jizz tim isnt hot on a regular aftermarket air cooler because it doesnt pull much wattage

>attacking the reviewer and not the review
Any actual problems with the testing results or you just don't like GN?

Get a better SSD. SX6000 is a good buy right now

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You don't need to either delid or watercool it to use it.

AVX is irrelevant even with out it the 8400 comsumes more power than a 4.3 ghz 8 core

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>aftermarket cooler
>on a $170 cpu
Aftermarket is for insane high end shit like threadripper not a shitty i5

So what you're saying is that it consumes 25% less power than the 1700 yet has an almost 35% worse score?
That's not a good thing, you know. That's worse perf/watt. As everyone already knows, Ryzen is more efficient.

>62.3w
>for the 65w part
Looks good

Then its going to run hot and no one wants shit that runs hot, hence why AMD dominates cpus and nvidia dominates gpus in custom builds

I mean the stock cooler works if you like 75c and it being loud as fuck. 20 or 30 bucks on an air cooler is worth it

>Anyway with a GTX 1050 the G5400 will provide the same perf as the 2200G for significantly less money.
maybe, but with massive amounts of stutter. Not to mention the fact that doing anything remotely CPU-intensive will make your computer unusable for the time. Again, dual cores are not suitable for desktop usage, only for HTPC Netflix boxes.

55 watts for the 105 watt part looks even better, intel is inefficient housefires, stop trying to move the goalpost.

TW3 is a stupid benchmark to use because the framerate is much lower on Ryzen than on Intel CPUs

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How about just buying AMD and not having to worry about it?

No, it won't run hot unless you want to oc with Vcore of 1.3v and higher.

>180W TDP part
>consumes 88.4watts
>95W TDP part
>consumes 53.2 watts, even less than the 8400
lol

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You sound angered raj

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105 watt part isnt using half its threads and performs worse in witcher 3

Amd is worse at gaming

And so is it for farcry 5 retard, you are just cherrypicking results that you like, do explain to me how you aren't an intel shill.

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That's just how I sound when I'm hungry on feeding on your tears, troll

Are you evading bans now?

>65w part
>using 32.7w
WOAH HOUSEFIRE!!!!

why not???
pleasse explain
what motherboard do you recommend for LGA1150 ? under 80€

You keep ignoring how the 105 watt part is using 30, again keep moving the goalpost and shilling.

Because its all cheap chinkshit most likely china exclusive hardware

>performs worse
>uses less power
Okay? 32.7w still isnt hot

If intel mobos are too expensive for you than get cpus that have cheaper mobos

Hot enough to get 60c on water

>60c
WOAH SHUT IT DOWN!!! HOUSEFIRE ALERT

>assblasted indian shitposter who is butthurt that he couldn't ruin the OP
You are why intel is universally despised on Jow Forums

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cpus should never get above 50c on water 60c is a sign somethings wrong with the cpu

Definitely not That i5 is a relatively weak 4 core, but the 1050Ti is relatively weaker

Not really, but we can throw out the TW3 and the FC5 results if you want. That leaves Ashes of the Benchmark to BTFO your tiny brain

We've been over this. The Eisbaer is a horrible AIO. Probably one of the worst you can get. They might as well have tested on the stock cooler.

Or could be a shitty bench

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I'm upgrading the CPU and motherboard of a build I used a OEM Windows 7 key for. Can I use the same key? I'm reformatting the HDD that Windows was installed on before we reinstall Windows on a SSD I bought.

>That leaves Ashes of the Benchmark
Worse cpu performance on AMD than intel just like the witcher and fc5, you are just desperately trying to shill and failing so hard at it.

>Pajeettech
Are you serious or are you actually trying to meme or something?