>Assemble a part list pcpartpicker.com/ >Example gaming builds and _monitor_ suggestions; click on the blue title to see notes pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/ >Learn how to build a PC (You can find a lot more detailed videos on channels like Bitwit) youtube.com/watch?v=69WFt6_dF8g >How to install Win7 on Ryzen pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1 >DO NOT OVERCLOCK ON RYZEN 2000 SERIES If you are on the new X470 or B450 platforms letting precision boost 2 do its job gets better performance
If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >NO Core i7/5/3 7000 series. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE >NO Ryzen 1000 series. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY THE Ryzen 2000 SERIES >R3 2200G - Bare minimum gaming WITH/WITHOUT a graphics card (Low end) >R5 2600X - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPU (Mid range) >R7 2700X - Best gaming CPU / VM Work / Streaming / Video editing (High end) >TR 1950X/Used Xeon - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing (HEDT)
RAM: >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports
Graphics cards: >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >MSRP of standard 1080p cards: 1050Ti, 140USD; 1060 3GB, $200; 1060 6GB, $230; RX 570 4GB, $170; RX 580 4GB, $200 >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
>R3 2200G - Gaming WITHOUT a graphics card >G5400 - HTPC, web browsing, or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card >i3 8100 - Budget gaming builds >R5 2600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs (especially the R5 2600 for multithread perf) >R7 2700 / i7 8700K - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing
I'm really retarded when it comes to this. How does this sound for H I G H end 1080p gaming with possibilities to upgrade to 1440 later on? Also want to be able to do some editing with Photoshop, InDesign, Premiere Pro (not 4K), and Illustrator.
CPU: i7-8700 Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z370-H GPU: Asus ROG STRIX GTX 1080 RAM: 2x8 GB 3000 mhz Corsair Vengeance RGB PSU: 500w evga Storage: 240 GB Samsung EVO 860 SSD and 1TB dogshit hard drive Case: Corsair Spec-Alpha
Is it a dumb build? 1080 is overkill? My friend said if I wanna go balls to the wall with the other shit I might as well
Thomas Harris
You missed it
Gabriel Gutierrez
>Cpu that cant overclock >z370 >Asus >Corsair >Inadequate 500 watt psu Yes your build does suck
>You never post benchmarks or links I'm not going to bother. Everyone knows you're a lying, manipulative shill by now already. There's no point in putting forth the effort to find a benchmark or video link again when you just say it doesn't count and spam the same cherry picked garbage. People have posted them before but you just ignore it and repeat the same spam.
500w is plenty for that build. It won't draw over 400. But the locked cpu with unlocked board really makes no fucking sense, yes.
Wyatt Hill
I like the Corsair aesthetic, already have some stuff from them so thought I would complete the set, what's wrong with it? Also, what's wrong with asus?
Don't wanna do any overclocking besides maybe RAM. I'm too shit at PC's to do it.
What's wrong with the Z370? WhatCoffee Lake board should I get instead? The PSU I was unsure of myself, it's the one I already have. But every calculator I have checked tells me I'm a couple watts above recommended, and a good amount over what I need. I will be upgrading later though. To a corsair one with 650w that is
Ayden Carter
Based
Cooper Russell
Don't bother with the pcpartpicker power consumption think, its very misleading
Ayden Edwards
Could be better. If you have a 144Hz monitor, graphics card is fine but CPU is overkill. Can get a cheaper mobo. Get a better SSD if you don't already own that
Robert Diaz
You want a z370 or else you cant oc your ram. Get the cheapest z370 you can, they go for about 100 bucks. Its worth the extra money over the b360
Julian Thomas
Kinda want the build to last a couple years, what CPU would still handle gaming and some editing? Also what motherboard? SSD is already bought, I might get a second one later
William Nguyen
Should I get the 2700 or 2700x? I don't want to deal with extra heat and the I think the heatsink has wayyyy too much RGB for the 2700x, however, the performance is around 10% better than the 2700, give or take. What should I do? I have a Crosshair Hero VII X470. Has a 1300x in there at the moment. hlp
Logan Brown
>I'm not going to bother. It's because you can't. You have no data, fanbitch.
Xfr2 on the x series is probably worth it. Its faster than a manual oc
Levi Butler
2 cores is literally depreciated for desktop use. It can't do anything but one task at a time, any typical bloated Wangblows install will cause stuttering in game, not to mention even running it with shit like Discord will be challenging. Anyone recommending the G4560 or refresh is a literal marketer at this point. It's dead Jim. Buy the 2200G or if you want Intel get the 8100. 4C/4T is the bare minimum now. Anything cheaper is trash (besides used shit).
>asus is biostar if biostar tried to pretend its premium, asus is low quality trash pretending its not low quality
I didn't know. What are some examples of good quality then?
>are you retarded? that shit doesn't matter and if you think it does then go buy a mac
What if it matters to me? I don't even find Mac's to be visually appealing. Why can't my system perform well and look good as well? What's wrong with that? Or is that just a meme on this general, that everything RBG and anything that looks nice is unecessary and stupid?
>your cpu is locked and can use z370s' features Sure, but I want to OC the RAM. What board could I get instead then?
I do have the cash. No real budget besides not throwing money for no reason. As I said I'm willing to use a couple bucks on looks.
Camden Jones
U want intel for ur gaymens
Jaxson Powell
*consumes more power than a 4.3ghz 8 core with hyperthreading*
>Sure, but I want to OC the RAM. What kind of difference are you expecting? Or do you want to do it just for fun? Not the same guy, but I just don't see the reasoning.
Colton Walker
Did you watch his recent video where the 2200G annihilated the G5400 despite having slightly lower single threaded performance? Same answer to you. Intel has higher single thread performance yet their 2C/4T CPU is losing badly to AMD's true quad core.
The reason why is 2C/4T is shit. And remeber, CPU benchmarks are done (usually) on clean Windows installs with no background applications running besides MSI Afterburner. It's not representative of real world Windows usage. Any type of decompression or installation workload will bring your PC to a screeching halt, I know because I've used a dual core before.
You can turn off the RGB. A 2700X is generally going to be more power efficient than an overclocked 2700 since it can downclock itself. You can also try a negative voltage offset with the 2700X at stock settings to cut down on power and, if you're lucky, maintain the same clocks.
He corrected himself. He said it will, but it's an overclock, which is true. You have to change something in intellisense which voids your warranty to get the performance benchmarkers are showing in the 8400. Lmao. cherry picking one game
Oliver Clark
Wow, 12W more than the 1600X sure is a housefire! Good thing you can get a bunch of extra gaming perf with the i5 8400!
I'm white. You can tell because I'm smarter than you, nigger
Jackson Stewart
I'm not a dumpster diver to be curious about how 2/4 cpus are doing. If you're going to compare ryzen with intel's offerings, do it with 8700K.
Ryan Cooper
Fuck if I know, my friend told me that's what allows me to get the speed that is advertized, and I thought that would be smart to do. As I said, I know fuck all, but the Z370 barely costs any more than the other CL compatible boards, all the while the ROG STRIX board looks much better on the z370 version. Might get it just for that desu
>Did you watch his recent video where the 2200G annihilated the G5400 despite having slightly lower single threaded performance? By price/perf, the G5400 still wins in the HWUB video, and often provides hundreds of FPS. Anyway with a GTX 1050 the G5400 will provide the same perf as the 2200G for significantly less money. Bamboozled again
Not him, but >AVX again
Luis Parker
>Fuck if I know, my friend told me that's what allows me to get the speed that is advertized, and I thought that would be smart to do While that's true you're talking about a small difference since that's a lower end locked CPU. It's like getting premium gas in a Civic. Not going to make much of a difference.
You're wasting your money getting a Z370 board with a locked CPU though. No harm in doing it, but a waste is a waste.
Nathaniel Allen
>another avx I dont care
Justin Murphy
>Using the biggest intel shills on the internet as a defense that intel isnt a housefire
Dominic Lee
Why would I give a shit about Intel's $380 housefire? I don't want to have to delid and watercool a CPU just to fucking use it. The whole argument was about Intel's worthless Pentium lineup, you're just trying to change the subject.
Samuel Ward
Intel is a housefire but the 8400 with its jizz tim isnt hot on a regular aftermarket air cooler because it doesnt pull much wattage
Joshua Garcia
>attacking the reviewer and not the review Any actual problems with the testing results or you just don't like GN?
>aftermarket cooler >on a $170 cpu Aftermarket is for insane high end shit like threadripper not a shitty i5
Hunter Ortiz
So what you're saying is that it consumes 25% less power than the 1700 yet has an almost 35% worse score? That's not a good thing, you know. That's worse perf/watt. As everyone already knows, Ryzen is more efficient.
Daniel Jenkins
>62.3w >for the 65w part Looks good
Dominic Perez
Then its going to run hot and no one wants shit that runs hot, hence why AMD dominates cpus and nvidia dominates gpus in custom builds
Dylan Scott
I mean the stock cooler works if you like 75c and it being loud as fuck. 20 or 30 bucks on an air cooler is worth it
Owen Phillips
>Anyway with a GTX 1050 the G5400 will provide the same perf as the 2200G for significantly less money. maybe, but with massive amounts of stutter. Not to mention the fact that doing anything remotely CPU-intensive will make your computer unusable for the time. Again, dual cores are not suitable for desktop usage, only for HTPC Netflix boxes.
Cooper Fisher
55 watts for the 105 watt part looks even better, intel is inefficient housefires, stop trying to move the goalpost.
Dominic Harris
TW3 is a stupid benchmark to use because the framerate is much lower on Ryzen than on Intel CPUs
I'm upgrading the CPU and motherboard of a build I used a OEM Windows 7 key for. Can I use the same key? I'm reformatting the HDD that Windows was installed on before we reinstall Windows on a SSD I bought.
Zachary Perez
>That leaves Ashes of the Benchmark Worse cpu performance on AMD than intel just like the witcher and fc5, you are just desperately trying to shill and failing so hard at it.
Owen Watson
>Pajeettech Are you serious or are you actually trying to meme or something?
