>Assemble a part list pcpartpicker.com/ >Example gaming builds and _monitor_ suggestions; click on the blue title to see notes pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/ >Learn how to build a PC (You can find a lot more detailed videos on channels like Bitwit) youtube.com/watch?v=69WFt6_dF8g >How to install Win7 on Ryzen pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1 >DO NOT OVERCLOCK ON RYZEN 2000 SERIES If you are on the new X470 or B450 platforms letting precision boost 2 do its job gets better performance
If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >NO Core i7/5/3 7000 series. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE >NO Ryzen 1000 series. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY THE Ryzen 2000 SERIES >R3 2200G - Bare minimum gaming WITH/WITHOUT a graphics card (Low end) >R5 2600X - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPU (Mid range) >R7 2700X - Best gaming CPU / VM Work / Streaming / Video editing (High end) >TR 1950X/Used Xeon - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing (HEDT)
RAM: >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports
Graphics cards: >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >MSRP of standard 1080p cards: 1050Ti, 140USD; 1060 3GB, $200; 1060 6GB, $230; RX 570 4GB, $170; RX 580 4GB, $200 >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
anyone have experience with the asus mg279q ips 1440p 144hz?
also any recommendations for 1440p 144hz monitors? i don't want a TN monitor because i have one already and want something more premium which will give a better picture for my games
Since it looks like the aim will become 4k, probably a 4k 60hz build.
Gonna take that advice to heart and look at the AMD CPU's, what's the current chipset that looks like it'll receive the most focus?
Jackson Bailey
>don't want TN Reasonable, but you could search for VA as well. And I hear the mg279q is very good but ASUS has a TERRIBLE warranty. Has to be like 5 dead pixels and in a short time period for them to do anything. So make sure you buy it from somewhere where you can easily return it. Better yet, see if you can open it up and try it out in the store to make sure you get one without dead pixels.
Jose Sanders
Im probably going to miss it before some butthurt shill comments on it but:
If AMD makes a superior product then it isnt shilling, sorta how no one complains about the lack of AMD gpus in the OP, They aren't there because they are power hungry and are more expensive than the nvidia ones, it doesn't matter if every AMD gpu compared to its nvidia counter part is a bit faster it isnt worth the price and power consumption and the same rational goes when talking about intel and AMD only in that case AMD is cheaper and more efficient and intel isn't.
If we applied the same rational as with recommending intel in the cpu section then every gpu recommendation under a 1080ti would be AMD because they have better performance at the expense of price and power consumption.
Charles Russell
Non fanboy CPU recommendations
>R3 2200G - Gaming WITHOUT a graphics card >G5400 - HTPC, web browsing, or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card >i3 8100 - Budget gaming builds >R5 2600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs (especially the R5 2600 for multithread perf) >R7 2700 / i7 8700K - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing
i've read in multiple places that current VA technology is still really bad for pixel response times even if they have 1m gtg advertised. you get blurring and smudging in motion which is worse than TN and ips. also all VA panel seem to be curved nowadays and i prefer a normal flatscreen
Aaron Russell
Don’t forget x58 if budget oriented
Jason Walker
Non fanboy graphics recommendations
Graphics cards: >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >MSRP of standard 1080p cards: 1050Ti, 140USD; 1060 3GB, $200; 1060 6GB, $230; RX 570 4GB, $170; RX 580 4GB, $200 >RX 580 if you're looking for very high (60+) framerates >Vega 56 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >Vega 64 is a standard choice; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
The irony of these two posts will be lost on shills
William Brooks
>what's the current chipset that looks like it'll receive the most focus? Almost all X470 boards seem to be extremely overbuilt as if they're made to support a possible upcoming 12 core.
But you can save a good deal of money just getting a b350, especially if you're just going with a 6 core.
I mean we do mostly recommend RX580 over 1060.. 1060s aren't worth what they're priced at, and the Polaris cards have been on sale pretty frequently the past week and there was a decent RX570 sale today as well. The exception being if someone mostly only plays something that it's Nvidia favored (which is very rare now days with Polaris drivers improving, and game-ready drivers being quite on point), or if they do work that's CUDA only and not OpenCL.
The power consumption increase isn't that bad even on the 500 series refresh, especially with framerate rate limit controls, considering you get an arch that's increasingly favored by newer game releases. Even a heavily Nvidia favored and sponsored title, the biggest ones recently like ME:A and FFXV, has the RX580 matching the 1060 in performance after AMD's driver update for those games. It's 7970 vs 680 all over again, so easy to recommend the RX580.
But Vega is still desireable to miners, so I can't see myself recommending that over the 1070 or 1070ti anytime soon.
Yeah, gtg advertisement is a scam.
Gavin James
you should add the 8700k in its own category for sheer gaming performance and emulation, basically the best for straight up gaming. for the 2700x you should have it as the best all rounder for the same price as the 8700k.
wtf kind of recommendation is this? i hope this is a joke
Noah Ortiz
Free (you) keep it safe
Liam Ramirez
Not really part of your thread but I would say go with one of the ROG Crosshair motherboards for Ryzen. They seem to be supporting stuff really well, I have a Gaming K7 and support feels lackluster based on bios updates and compatibility.
That said I love the board, but it feels neglected.
Isaiah Adams
You've inspired him to shill hard for amd and feel justified in doing so
Jose Murphy
>The power consumption increase isn't that bad even on the 500 series refresh from what i've seen the 580 under full load can use more power than a 1070
Robert Stewart
>wtf kind of recommendation is this? i hope this is a joke Taking the rational behind and applying it to the GPU recommendations, that is what the GPU recommendations would look like if performance was the only metric that mattered.
Gavin Garcia
Ah, funny. The difference is that I post benchmarks and you don't. Price/perf of Radeon is still way too low.
You have to lie to back up your "claims," and I don't.
Logan Foster
>RX580 over 1060 The 1060 gets recommended here way more over than the 580
Parker Reed
>The difference is that I post benchmarks and you don't. You sound like a toddler. Carry on, I'm from the peanut gallery.
Julian James
Don't forget to mention that Vega produces heat equivalent to a nuclear reactor and draws a shit ton of power.
Jaxson Sullivan
>performance was the only metric that mattered. You're retarded. It's performance + price/perf, which is why I always post two benchmarks. >rational You don't understand the rational, obviously. But you were never very smart to begin with
Jayden Ramirez
i don't see how recommending both intel/amd by that guy translates to completely dropping the nvidia gpu from the recommendations in favor of having arguably worse performing parts with much worse efficiency e.g. the vega 64 is slower than the 1080 on average but uses more power than a 1080ti. i'd only recommend the 56 but i would have it as an alternate alongside the 1070, and not removing the 1070 completely
Jayden Johnson
What like this that corroborates everything that is recommended in the modified gpu recs?
>You sound like a toddler. Sounds like you're out of arguments
Julian Gutierrez
Little hesitant since it is Asus and I've not had a good experience with my laptop from them. will start searching on part picker then. just from that alone sounds like the vega 64 is a piece of crap built to burn itself out within a year.
Christian Barnes
>Sounds like you're out of arguments I had none to begin with. I guess you missed my second sentence.
Wyatt Lopez
>from what i've seen the 580 under full load can use more power than a 1070 Yes, it can. It's definitely higher than the 1060. But the 1070s power consumption isn't that high. Nvidia definitely has a perf/watt advantage but that doesn't make Polaris' efficiency BAD by any means. It's just worse perf/watt, it's not awful.
I haven't seen that lately with RX580s and 570s going on sale the past 2 weeks.
It's less than the R9 Fury at least. It's actually not THAT bad. It's similar to a 1080Ti power consumption despite perf usually being closer to a 1080 in most games. And with undervolting you can actually get perf/watt which matches the 1080. The problem is they had to clock them too high to be competitive and too much voltage to ensure stability. Nvidia has a major advantage when it comes to voltage regulation to keep it low at given clocks without stability issues.
Josiah Flores
The point is completely lost on intel shills, they post perf-per-dollar of shitty gaming benchmarks and don't understand that people factor in other shit than pure gaming performance.
Robert Kelly
You guys think i should upgrade my gtx 970 to an 1170/1180? I almosy feel like there is no point since it still does so well at 1080p
Gavin Bell
then don't upgrade
Jason Miller
Relative performance chart is correct
This is only correct at MSRP, which none of the cards are. Again, you have to be dishonest to support your position.
Bentley Turner
You dont understand that some of us have a pc meant only for gaming. That's all it does. I work on my work pc in the office
Cooper Jenkins
The OP can look like this
>R3 2200G - Gaming WITHOUT a graphics card >G5400 - HTPC, web browsing, or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card >i3 8100 - Budget gaming builds >R5 2600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs (especially the R5 2600 for multithread perf) >R7 2700 / i7 8700K - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing
Graphics cards: >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >MSRP of standard 1080p cards: 1050Ti, 140USD; 1060 3GB, $200; 1060 6GB, $230; RX 570 4GB, $170; RX 580 4GB, $200 >RX 580 if you're looking for very high (60+) framerates >Vega 56 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >Vega 64 is a standard choice; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
or this
CPUs: >NO Core i7/5/3 7000 series. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE >NO Ryzen 1000 series. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY THE Ryzen 2000 SERIES >R3 2200G - Bare minimum gaming WITH/WITHOUT a graphics card (Low end) >R5 2600X - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPU (Mid range) >R7 2700X - Best gaming CPU / VM Work / Streaming / Video editing (High end) >TR 1950X/Used Xeon - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing (HEDT)
Graphics cards: >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >MSRP of standard 1080p cards: 1050Ti, 140USD; 1060 3GB, $200; 1060 6GB, $230; RX 570 4GB, $170; RX 580 4GB, $200 >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
Which do you prefer
Parker Torres
Because most people build for gaming, retard. Intel only get recommended for gaming, but AMD fangirls get their panties in a knot because their favorite company can't take the performance crown
Adam Lopez
I dont like either but the bottom one tries to pretend intel doesnt exist
Jackson Garcia
i don't know what side that guy is on and i don't care. dumb people give the legitimate fans bad image.
although i wouldn't completely agree with you. my desktop is used almost solely for gaming. i use my laptop for everything else as it's more comfortable to type word docs and use the laptop to stream movies to my tv when i'm chilling on my couch. my next pc component upgrade whether it be ram, gpu or cpu will be entirely gaming focused. i'm actually this guy and a new 1440p 144hz monitor is going to be my next gaming upgrade for my desktop.
still requesting monitor recommendations btw
Oliver Fisher
>Because most people build for gaming
I rarely see anyone here that doesn't have mixed uses, people who only game especially on Jow Forums is incredibly low, and because of that it doesn't need to be in the OP for the same reason the 1900x isnt in the OP, its niche whether you like it or not.
Asher Turner
The x models are better for ryzen, id mention xfr2
Jason Stewart
Your false choice doesn't fool anyone. The OP would be best as follows, considering the information it contains is data driven.
CPUs: >NO R3 1200/1300X or R5 1400/1500X. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY THE R3 2200G AND R5 2400G >R3 2200G - Gaming WITHOUT a graphics card >G5400 - HTPC, web browsing, or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card >i3 8100 - Budget gaming builds >R5 2600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs (especially the R5 2600 for multithread perf) >R7 2700 / i7 8700K - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing
Graphics cards: >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >MSRP of standard 1080p cards: 1050Ti, 140USD; 1060 3GB, $200; 1060 6GB, $230; RX 570 4GB, $170; RX 580 4GB, $200 >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
Mixed uses mean you stream or encode or unzip giant files regularly. Most of us dont do that on a leasure pc
Mason Gomez
The bottom one is when efficiency and cost are taken in to consideration, the top one is mostly just pure gaymen performance regardless of price or power consumption.
Blake Flores
>Little hesitant since it is Asus and I've not had a good experience with my laptop from them.
Fair enough. If Asus is off the table then I'd have no problem recommending one of Gigabyte / Aorus' new 470 boards. Support feels lackluster but mine performs like a champ.
Mason Howard
>I rarely see anyone here that doesn't have mixed uses, Shut up, idiot. Most people are only gaming, there are a few who are only working, and a few do both. Obviously these CPU recommendations take all those needs into account
Dylan Jackson
Why aren't AMD gpus in the OP.
Jonathan Baker
You want me to keep count this thread because i will
I think it should mention gaming and gaming + workstation as too different goals
Carter Jenkins
or render, or do CAD, or encode, ect.. its not just streaming and 7zip
William Adams
The RX 570 and 580 are. If you can get them for relatively close to MSRP, they're worth it. The problem is that AMD cards are better at crypto, so their prices are inflated more by miners.
Michael Peterson
Please do, report back when you're done.
>Why aren't AMD gpus in the OP. As has been stated a million times, they're very expensive compared to their Nvidia counterparts. You know, this whole ETH mining thing?
Thomas Ramirez
That can just be done in the thread, the recommendations are loose and more niche shit like overpriced gaymen console or server can be chosen according to whos asking for advice,
Low key why would you get a G5400 for an HTPC just because it may be cheaper? Jack of some trades, master of literally none?
Henry Anderson
I know but why would you do that unless you did it for a job or a hobby. Most of us dont
Aaron Turner
Why would you pay more for something that doesn't benefit you? Pretty stupid, if you ask me. Oh right, fanboyism.
What's your monitor?
Blake Evans
They are, building a work station for gaming may not be cost effective is all i am saying.
Jace Jones
You're building a feature specific PC, why gimp it? Might as well buy an Amazon Fire Stick and call it a day.
Jack Foster
I have a shitty FM2+ APU for my HTPC, it literally doesn't matter if you're talking about a netflix box.
Robert Sanchez
the 580 8gb is only 50$ more than the 6gb 1060 like the 8700k is 50$ more than the 2700X vega 56 is $100 more than the 1070ti like the 8600k is $100 than the 2600 vega 64 is $100 more than the 1080
What do you guys think of this? Its around 900 bucks with no monitor or case. CPU:i5-8400 intell 6core video card: GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Memory: 2tb seagate barracuda and 250gb samsung ssd Motherboard: Asus prime z310-A LGA 1551 Ram: Corsair vengeance LPX 8gb(2x4gb) Power Supply: EVGA supernova 650
I have a budget of 1000$ and have no monitor or case
Luis Reyes
THIS SHALL BE THE NEW OP
CPUs: >NO R3 1200/1300X or R5 1400/1500X. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY THE R3 2200G AND R5 2400G >R3 2200G - Gaming WITHOUT a graphics card >G5400 - HTPC, web browsing, or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card >i3 8100 - Budget gaming builds >R5 2600 - Best price/perf CPU for a combination of Gaming / Streaming / Video Editing without breaking the bank (especially with it's 6c/12t) >i5 8400 - Similar price to R5 2600 and lacks hyperthreading support but makes up for it in gaming oriented builds with better average performance and also much better emulation support and performance >R7 2700 - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing best all rounder >i7 8700K - Best gaming performance / best for achieving 144fps (assuming no GPU bottleneck) / Currently the recommended CPU for emulators such as the RPCS3
Graphics cards: >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >MSRP of standard 1080p cards: 1050Ti, 140USD; 1060 3GB, $200; 1060 6GB, $230; RX 570 4GB, $170; RX 580 4GB, $200 >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >Vega 56 is a valid alternative and can be found for cheaper when at MSRP >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
This is prob the best thing you could do for under 1000
Anthony Martin
I'm thinking about getting the 2200g to do some light gaming, maybe Fallout 3 and NV, also some Fortnite with my friends. Also, want to use some Adobe programs (photoshop and premiere) and get into the machine learning meme. I was thinking about upgrading to another CPU and a discrete GPU at the end of 2018 when Nvidia launches their next series of GPUs. Is this a good idea or is there something that I've missed that makes this a terrible plan?
unironically ryzen. if you are anal about intel, get a cheaper motherboard (you don't need a fancy mb for a non-K cpu) and get a better gpu. do you really need 2tb? >seagate no. get 1tb and 512gb ssd >samsung no.
Jackson Peterson
The difference is that you need to do actual math to determine price/perf. The 580 is at best 5% better than the 1060 6GB on average, but it is 20% more expensive. Therefore the 1060 is a much better deal. As soon as Radeon graphics cards come down a little more in price, they'll be in the OP again. As I said in the last thread, when the 4GB 570 is the same price as 3GB 1060, the 3GB 1060 will be completely replaced.
All the K CPUs, except possibly the 8700K, are bad deals. I don't recommend them; almost no one does. The i5 8400 is both cheaper and better performing in games than the 2600/X, and the motherboards are a similar cost, so there's no contest between the two CURRENTLY. Obviously the 8400 is a better deal. However, we could have a conversation about the Finewine aspect of the R5 in certain situations, which might make it a better purchase.
No one should be buying an i7 8700K or R7 2700X for gaming, anyway.
Nolan Allen
Not to shill but I got a vega 56 and undervolted it and flashed it with the vega 64 bios and I've got basically GTX 1080 performance.
Leo Rogers
1080 is still there when vega 64 is more powerful than it
2700x > 2700
2600x > 2600 (better stock cooler)
Or we could all just agree that both AMD gpus and Intel cpus aren't better enough than Nvidia gpus and AMD cpus respectively in gaming to justify recommending them because AMD gpus and Intel cpus have way to many flaws.
Christopher Nelson
Do you NEED that expensive ssd? You could get a better gpu/psu for cheaper.
Nicholas James
is dis nigga holding that hot air gun on the metallic part? jesus christ....
Jonathan Baker
Your performance per dollar chart does not take into account the fact that the 8700k/8600k dont come with a cooler, while the ryzen 2700x/2600x do, and they're pretty decent.
Also it doesn't note that even with a 1060 or 1070, at 1080p you will be GPU limited unless you have a 1080ti, and the performance will be basically equal
id prefer a speedy boot time but i don't mind giving that up if you think it's better, reccomendations?
nobody is making a x470 mini itx board right now except asus, plus they are not horrendous
Justin Davis
>R7 2700X - VM Work / Streaming / High-tier Gaming Performance / Video Editing / best all rounder >i3 8100 - Budget gaming builds (wait for Ryzen 3 2000 series if interested in AMD's overall better offerings). > G5400 - HTPC, web browsing, or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card (consider a 4 core CPU for the future if less mild-stuttering/more-CPU-headroom while gaming is desired).
FTFY? Everything else looks good enough. Should note that RX 580/570 prices have started to get deals closer to their respective MSRPs in the US.
Luke Russell
In the past, a dirt cheap dual core would have been good for an HTPC, but I think recommending one now is kind of dumb. You should get a quad core in case you ever need to transcode. An AM4 quadcore APU is only $70 on Newegg, and at $100, you can get a Ryzen APU. You can also get Sandy Bridge stuff for dirt cheap these days. No reason to ever go dual core.
Jacob Wilson
>The 580 is at best 5% better than the 1060 6GB on average, but it is 20% more expensive. the 8700k is 5% better than the 2700X and 15% more expensive in gaming only, its far worse in everything else
>The i5 8400 is both cheaper and better performing in games than the 2600/X because its the worse 6 core silicon that intel sells with no guarantee that it can reach its boost and is already losing to the 2600 with good ram.
Grayson Johnson
>mini itx featureless shitty meme, dont bother with it
Hunter Watson
>1080 is still there when vega 64 is more powerful than it the vega 64 is too much of a housefire and even at its very best isn't much faster than the 1080 which makes the justification of the purchase of a 64 pretty retarded. the 56 and 580 on the other hand are valid alternatives depending on pricing and if they can be found at msrp when pricing stabilises or if you simply live in a region where it's cheaper in general then both of these are good recommendations as they have similar performance to the nvidia gpu they compete with and don't draw astronomically more power than their competition unlike the 64.
>2700x > 2700 >2600x > 2600 (better stock cooler) you can simply just add an "/X" after each of these and put an explanation at the begging of the CPU category saying the difference between X and non-X as well as K and non-K.
>Or we could all just agree that both AMD gpus and Intel cpus aren't better enough than Nvidia gpus and AMD cpus respectively in gaming to justify recommending them because AMD gpus and Intel cpus have way to many flaws. this is just stupidity
Noah Jones
>$900 >to be limited by a 1050ti please do yourself a favor and get a 1060 even if it means you have to downgrade to an i3-8100 or a 2400g (for 8threads at least, for games like BF1)
Kevin Lopez
You are correct. In my version of the OP i7s and R7s are not recommended for gaming as a main purpose.
Check the CPU + graphics card pairings in the builds in the OP pcpartpicker. CPU is overpowered for a low end graphics card
CPU recommendations are too wordy, also a 2600 isn't a streaming CPU.
Monitor is crap for the price
Good idea
Nathaniel Johnson
what makes it shitty? i want a smaller build this time around.
Gabriel Lopez
StoreMi autowins the perf-per-dollar arguments. That's AMD only and you can turn your cheap shit 250gb SSD into a 2TB or larger one that makes all your games load faster and load in textures faster, etc, giving a better gaming experience for cheaper. Intel simply can't compete, not with the 8400 either since the increased storage costs, only with the 8700k since at that point you're in "price doesn't matter" territory.
Somewhat solid build though I'd pay the little bit more 3200 MHz RAM unless I'm missing something and that RAM is good for overclocking. Oh and well that 1080 is super fucking expensive. Have you tried searching for used ones if you really want a 1080? >Kingston KC1000 Why not get Optane + 2TB HDD if you have a $420 budget for storage ??? Makes no sense.
Isaiah Gutierrez
>High-tier Gaming Performance i wouldn't add that because it's not accurate. the 2600 is pretty identical in terms of gaming performance compared to the 2700. sometimes the 8400 beats them both so it would be too misleading to add that. just putting best all rounder is good enough
Chase Morales
How is the x600 not a streaming CPU?
Landon James
>the vega 64 is too much of a housefire So power consumption does matter to you, i can say the same with the 8700k vs the 2700x it per core has twice the power consumption.
>even at its very best isn't much faster than the 1080 Same with the 8700k vs the 2700x 5% isnt a commanding lead
>you can simply just add an "/X" after each of these and put an explanation at the begging of the CPU category saying the difference between X and non-X as well as K and non-K. no because the X cpus are worth it this time
>this is just stupidity its how the gpu recs functioned and no one complained
Jackson Peterson
fallout fine new vegas i doubt it fortnite definitely not adobe favors intel but it really wont be a big deal imho go ahead, then upgrade to 7nm AMD chip when it comes out (on the same board if you get a decent one) and then the next nvidia gpu thing (not the 1180, the one after that. volta, not ampere)
