Why is Windows so aggressive in pushing updates? I don't want to update

Then why is Jow Forums constantly saying how everyone should stay on Windows 7 even though it's outdated af?

Well you're already part of the botnet by having the system installed in the first place, at that point update or no update makes zero difference in terms of how deep in the botnet you are or what kind of access M$ has to all your stuff.

In other words, those really are just security updates, because they already have full control over you the moment you install the OS.

>I don't want to update.
Clearly not present in OP.

Millions of people do Windows updates every day without a problem. Just because some freetard with an ideological axe to grind engineers a problem to bitch about on Jow Forums, /. or whatever, does not make it valid.

Because it's still updated. Little elves in Microsoft Towers are still trawling through it and going "oops, that's wrong", still taking bug reports, etc. If this were the case with XP, we'd still be recommending XP.

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It's Microsoft's fault their shitty system requires a reboot after every update.

Windows 7 receives security updates.

So what will Jow Forums recommend when 7 doesn't receive security updates anymore?

I'll recommend 8.1 at that point. Don't know about the rest of Jow Forums (frankly, most of them seem pretty dumb).

>I don't want to update
>Your update is _SCHEDULED_ for 23:14

You're retarded OP. Jow Forums should not be a place for tech incompetents to come and complain about things they don't even know how to use.

The majority of people turn off their computers when they're not using them, user. Face it, you're a weird outlier.

why don't you use Windows XP + internet explorer 8 if you don't want to update at all and don't care about a secure system?

Edit services.msc and your registry moron

Are there even any modern computers that can run XP if not using a VM?

>>I don't want to update.
>Proof positive that Microsoft made the right call to force updates on normie morons. You idiots would just click the "update later" button for months if not years and then cry and blame Microsoft when you get infected by something they actually fixed ages ago.
You have absolutely no evidence I'd do this. It's my computer and I should be able to decide what it does.

Then don't run code written by other people on it. Easy.

>It's my computer and I should be able to decide
No.

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>millions of people do windows updates every day without a problem
and hundreds if not thousands have shit break in major updates, or it just outright fails to update.

So well under 0.01%? That's quite a few sigmas there.

Their profit margins are lower since going free so they have to aggressively prevent class action lawsuits due to any damages caused through negligence keeping their OS up to date.

Because they assume (not groundlessly, by the way) that only a complete moron would use W10, so they need to lead their users by the hand and make decisions for them.

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you can disable them brainlet

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>Then don't run code written by other people on it. Easy.
Windows 10 users are actually this fucking stupid

what do chem engineers do for a living?

>not using \documentclass{beamer}

> Why is Windows so aggressive in pushing updates? I don't want to update.
It's not your computer any more. It's Microsoft's computer.

Because you haven't taken control of your Windows installation yet.
For normies who don't do this, aggressive updates are important, because they won't install them otherwise. Then they wonder why they get ransomware.

>Proof positive that Microsoft made the right call to force updates on normie morons

Except that a lot of their "updates" these days aren't actually security/bug fixes; they're "feature" (anti-feature) updates.

Retards
>autistic screeching that M$ is forcing updates on them
Also retards
>autistic screeching that they're getting malware M$ issued a patch against six months beforehand

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fuck off with this meme and update like a normal human being

So what happens when it's Microsoft that installs malware on your PC via Windows Update?

>Windows is a service

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Nothing stops them technically. But I wouldn't trust you - nor anyone like you - to define "malware".

>everything i dont like is malware

wrong
most of the updates actually are security/bug fixes
they add new "features" only with major updates that happens once in about a quarter

Seems to be the general consensus. Change "malware" to "racist", "sexist", "Trump supporter", etc. for how the MSM works.

>The majority of people turn off their computers when they're not using them
Shutting down was replaced by hibernating with w10.

Actually it was Windows 8, but you don't know that, just like you've made it abundantly clear that you don't know anything else about Windows.

"Those who don't understand Windows are condemned to troll about it - poorly" - it's a great saying.

You can take controll of it on the home version as well. Just install gepedit and thrn you can modify the update settings

You don't even have to do that
>sc stop wuauserv
Make it permanent with the Services console.

Because they basically shove the privacy related questions again on each update
not only that: they also re-enable features you may have disabled, and put an edge icon in your desktop, in the last update

No.

Malware, short for malicious software, is an umbrella term used to refer to a variety of forms of hostile or intrusive software,[1] including computer viruses, worms, Trojan horses, ransomware, spyware, adware, scareware, and other intentionally harmful programs.
>spyware, adware
also known as telemetry and start menu ads

That faggot doesn't even know that windows KNOWS theres an update pending and changes the hibernate button to shutdown and install updates

Fourth year.

>spyware, adware
>also known as telemetry and start menu ads
See . Predictable as the sun rise.

something normies lack

Even Windows XP had similar functionality. 20 years solved, and they're still bitching about it. Then they wonder why they're mocked endlessly.

>Windows is a service
fucking lost it.

>Actually it was Windows 8, but you don't know that
I haven't used Windows since around 2013, so yes, I'm not really up to date on the details. Doesn't change the fact that shutdown/restart are not as common anymore as people might think.

>telemetry
Only reason they're afraid of it is they think 3 letter agencies will see they have terabytes of loli porn and stolen software.

>I don't want to update.

Settings > Update & Security > Windows Update > Advanced Options > Pause Updates > On
or
Services.msc > Windows Update > Startup Type > Disabled
or
GPEdit > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Update > Configure Automatic Updates > Disabled

Enjoy your vulnerabilities, nigger.

I will need to check, but I am almost sure I have pro. And only thing pro allows you is go set "work hours" that windows will not try to reboot. You can't set 24h for "work hours".
This shit made me completely switch to linux.

>haven't used Windows since around 2013
>still throwing tantrums about it FIVE YEARS later
It's true. Freetards have no lives. All they do is complain, break shit, then blame "closed source". They're the Hillary supporters of the IT world.

>hurr durr just don't be a criminal

Yep. You'll find life becomes much easier. You'll get more respect, and not be ostracised. You might even get a job, and possibly even a steady girlfriend.

Same thing with Linux, one of the reasons why companies run old as fuck stable servers.

>Windows is a service
Well there's your problem.

>also known as telemetry and start menu ads
No.
Adverts are not inherently malware.
Telemetry is not inherently malware.

One pro of telemetry is that MS actuslly finds 0days being used in the wild and fixes them.

Until they cop Heartbleed, or have a billion-strong password hack, or something.

See - there's no point arguing with it.

>Adverts are not inherently malware.
>Telemetry is not inherently malware.
Don't lie on the internet. Both of those are things that reputable software will have nothing to do with because they're inherently privacy-invading and detrimental to users. Advertising and telemetry are most certainly malware, by their inherent natures.

>inadvertently points out that successful FOSS is disreputable, privacy-invading and detrimental to users

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Am i the only one who never seen a single "ad" in windows 10?
Not in explorer, not in start menu, even tho i never disabled anything and get all updates as soon as they are ready.

>Can't shut down without updating

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I've never seen an ad in Windows 10. But that probably has a lot to do with me not using Windows 10 on my daily. Lots of my friends have 10, and I've never seen ads on them (except when they're running certain web browsers that shan't be named).

No, that's 100% correct, there definitely is FOSS malware. If you release the source to your malware under the GPL, that doesn't make it no longer malware. Though it does enable people to modify it to remove the malicious functionality. Some distros do that, a few years back the Django web framework wanted to add telemetry, and the Debian maintainer stopped by to say that they'd carry a patch to disable it. Since just because you call your spyware telemetry, doesn't make it any better.

Why, in the name of all that is holy, would you want to shut down without updating, when there are updates pending, user?

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How is stating the fact that the default "click on power icon" behavior has changed complaining or throwing a tantrum?

Valid point, but if people opt out from that (i.e. because they're working on NDA'd stuff) then updates shouldn't silently re-enable it.

Dude i wanna kill you for your smug behaviour

Win+r -> CMD -> shutdown -s -t 1 -f

Doesn't work - it hooks the shutdown of the Windows Update service, then does its stuff. And a timeout of zero works quicker.

No point telling me to see my own post.

No. Telemetry is something we have had in our computers pretty much since the Internet became a thing and people pretty much didn't complain until it was called telemetry.
It is something that is used in many forms of software, including Operating Systems, to gather and report data on how the software is running, errors both apparent and not apparent to the user as well as app crashes and so on so that the software can be improved.
The simple fact is that there is a massive hardware coverage that Microsoft cannot test on their own and people under report issues, or don't even notice some of the issues.
It is important to be careful what data you collect and Microsoft has supplied a full matrix of what they do collect.

As for adverts, advertising products is not malware. Simple as that.

Fair enough. Couldn't read your sarc.

gpedit
computer configuration > administrative templates > windows components > windows update
do not display "install updates and shut down" option in Shut Down Windows
enable

>when it changed six years ago, and I claim hasn't affected me in five? Oh, and I forgot to mention it's quite configurable? And I'm still bitching like a... well, bitch?

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Why are you guys so retarded. Set all your connections to metered and every time you boot you'll just have info that there's update waiting but it will not force you to download/apply it

It's quite fiddly to set up Ethernet as metered. It can be done, but requires some registry surgery, and has side-effects.

The fact that something is widely used, or has been used for a long time, isn't an argument that it's a good thing, or that it isn't malicious. We've had run-of-the-mill viruses and worms for over three decades as well, does that make them okay in your eyes?

I don't see why the motives behind telemetry are relevant at all. I don't care what you intend to use the data for, you don't have the right to have it. Why do you think you should have any expectation of knowing how I use your software unless I proactively choose to tell you?

As for adverts, they are inherently malware. Think about what an advertisement is. The goal of an ad is to distract me from what I'm doing, place my eyeballs and/or ears on something else, where I never would have voluntarily put them, and then use this distraction to try and con me into buying something that I otherwise would not have bought. There's no way to characterize this as not user hostile, or as a legitimate, respectable practice.

There's some downsides to setting your connections to metered.

Just DISABLE the service from starting up, both the Windows Update and BITS.
That stops it from ever checking for updates, problem solved

The fact that something is widely used, or has been used for a long time, isn't an argument that it's a good thing, or that it isn't malicious. We've had run-of-the-mill repeating the same faulty strawmen hoping they become true for over three millennia as well, does that make them okay in your eyes?

I'm too stupid to see why the motives behind telemetry. I don't care what you intend to use the data for, even though I signed a contract saying you could, you don't have the right to have it. Why do you think you should have any expectation of knowing how I use your software unless I proactively choose to tell you? And no, clicking that "I agree" for some reason doesn't count as "proactively choosing to tell you" is my weird-ass backward universe.

As for adverts, they are inherently malware. Think about what an advertisement is to me. I'm a ADHD defect, where any movement or shiny thing distracts me from what I'm doing, place my eyeballs and/or ears on something else, even though I voluntarily put them there, and then use this distraction to try and con me into buying something that I otherwise would not have bought because I have no self-control, and I'm a poorfag as a result. There's no way to characterize this as not idiot hostile, even though I partake in this practice myself when it suits me.

> When even the antivirus is complaining about windows updates?

Maybe if you're on a laptop, and you have to go, but Windows wants to update?

Put it to sleep.

Imo the option to just shut down author updating should still exist. Like if I'm not going to use my laptop for a while, I'd rather shut it down than put it to sleep.

> most of the updates actually are security/bug fixes

And you don't know which ones, because Microsoft don't give proper descriptions for them.

GWX fits all the definitions of malware that anti-malware companies would use.
The only reason it wasn't officially classsified as mawlare is because Microsoft wrote it.

>using a literal botnet
You deserve it.

Freetards
>you don't know whats in these updates because they're ordinary cab files that every program since 1997 can open
Also freetards
>open sauce is superior because you can read the source code and remove any "naughty" codes
If you're not smart enough to walk, you're not smart enough to brain surgery.

U an anti vaxxer too?