>FOSS is always better and more optimized than the non-free alternati-
FOSS is always better and more optimized than the non-free alternati-
Lincoln Morgan
Isaac Bailey
nobody said "always"
sage
Andrew Moore
-ves.
Adrian Diaz
VMware is much more optimized. I tried installing Windows 7 in VirtualBox on my Core2Duo laptop and it barely ran. But with VMware, it actually runs smoothly.
Justin Powell
>Windows
found your problem
Leo Hill
>werts qemu?
Levi Cox
you mean qemu with kvm?
qemu on its own is just an emulator
Wyatt Bennett
Yeah yeah, qemu is just the emulator, the whole system is qemu/kvm or as you've recently taken to calling it, qemu+kvm, I know.
Lucas Adams
>Core2Duo laptop
Try a machine with proper virtualization instructions
Brandon Perez
*kicks your shit in and fucks your mom*
Tyler Morris
>SDL_App
the absolute state
Jeremiah Ramirez
>Windows 7
>Core2Duo
Heh
Colton Torres
>FOSS
>CDDL
barely
Tyler Richardson
>qemu on its own is just an emulator
but what about its performance without kvm?
Brayden Rogers
Blame Oracle for holding back development.
Lucas Lee
>always
You mean never
Leo Cox
works well enough but slow as hell
Jack Nelson
Yeah because virtual box is a class one hypervisor. It is all software emulation. VMware and hyper v are class two with direct hardware pass through. Big fucking difference.
Eli Cook
maybe i'm misremembering the definitions, but I thought type 1 hypervisors are baremetal, and neither virtualbox nor vmware (workstation) are baremetal as they run on a host OS. IIRC vmware esxi is a proper type 1 hypervisor
Lincoln Taylor
VMWare Player is free (as in paydom) to download and use assuming you're not a business. I don't think it's any better than Virt-Manager with KVM.
Hudson Jones
No one says this. Also, type 2 hypervisors are garbage in general.
VMware Player is type 2 so it's garbage like virtualbox. VMware ESXi is type 1 and thus the preferred VMware solution. KVM is up to debate but I generally put it towards the type 1 side of things so that's a perfectly fine option
Ayden Barnes
Depends which vmware you mean...
Leo Myers
virtualbox is considered nonfree by Debian and the FSF
Jeremiah Brown
Shit, but useful for emulating other architectures
Henry Sullivan
Matthew Murphy
This is blatantly false, it's objectively proven QEMU-KVM is far faster and it's normie-proofed with the virt-manager GUI
Cooper Ward
>>FOSS is always better and more optimized than the non-free alternati-
Anyone who has unironically stated this has never used Photoshop and compared it to GIMP.
Anthony Stewart
holy shit, might as well stay on virtualbox
so what
Isaac Bell
I have. Modern Photoshop is a clusterfuck. GIMP just works.
Owen Wilson
>my not free version is better goy
Charles Thompson
>reading comprehension
Aiden Sullivan
genuinely kek'd
Ayden Cruz
something something Xen
Juan Collins
At least it don't rape the system with a fuckton of virtual tentacles.
Joshua Allen
That's not how this works.
A type 1 hypervisor is one that runs directly on your hardware and basically acts like your OS. Things like VMware ESX, or Windows Hyper-v - yes, when you turn on hyper-v, hyper-v becomes your OS with your windows running as a special, privileged virtualized OS, but with extra features like direct access to all your hardware and the screen.
A type 2 hypervisor is what runs on a host OS. They can use the virtualization features of your CPU, too, though.
Grayson Diaz
should of used KVM
it rapes everything else in terms of i/o
Ryder Harris
...
Wyatt Gomez
that screenshot gave me warm fuzzy nostalgic feelings