Mfw I see people that unironically believe net neutrality is a bad thing

Right, otherwise it would be unenforceable by FCC after the Verizon lawsuit.

Well, this specific implementation and the repeal of it is what's the whole discussion about.

I mean specifically in reply to
>define "net neutrality"

There are also many ways you could implement NN and some people would say that the current laws in place are poor, but that the principle is still desirable. I just think it's a good idea to make that clear before moving forward into anyones arguments about the laws in place or the very concept.

>be against NN
>NN doesnt pass, everything works fine
>laugh at commies because free market works
>NN doesnt pass, everything goes to shit
>laugh at burgers for being cucked by ISP lobbying
Who else /comfy/ yuropoor here

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me, just imagine that there suddenly wouldn't be any burgers on the entire web. Damn that would be /comfy/

>Blocks off their websites to avoid complying with your nanny state regulations
Heh, nothin personnel kid

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>what are VPNs

sorry forgot to empty the name field

>doesn't care at all about privacy and becomes slaves to the big conglomerates

Jow Forums:
>Companies need to stop data mining it's not fair muh privacy!!!!
also Jow Forums:
>Stupid eurocommies saying I can't data mine without impunity!!!!
Just admit that America is a meme nation.

It's a good metric to determine whether or not to avoid a certain website. If you'd rather block people that are protected against datamining instead of stopping to datamine I most likely wouldn't want to visit your site anyways.

This whole situation is pretty bizarre. There was overwhelming bipartisan support for network neutrality in the US until recent years. Did the corporate shilling finally start to pay off for them?

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Amazing what a few hundred thousand dollars can achieve, right?

Is part of the problem that the current people in power don't use the Internet?

For instance, if you were rich would you be using the Internet? how about if you were old/didn't grow up with the Internet? or if you spend most of your time doing outdoor activities?

I don't think there's anyone in the congress who isn't using internet in any way, even if just for e-mail. It's just that they don't understand how does it work and/or getting plenty of "gifts" from companies to act in their interest instead.

I don't mean to say that they don't use it at all, it's just that they don't use in the same way or to the same degree the newer generations use it. Email is a given and other job-related tasks, but for entertainment, social interaction, creating businesses, etc. they don't really have a part in.

Lack of understanding and lobbying/bribing is definitely a part of the problem, but when you don't give a shit about something then you have less of a reason to make sure it is protected.

>if you don't lick the shoes of the CEOs clean, then you're a commie
I don't think you truly know what communism really is, user.
I think you just try to label everything your ideology disagrees with as communist because it makes it easier for you to rationalize your ideology, as well as makes it easier to persuade others with fallacies (for instance, "communism killed many, user! you don't wanna defend something that will kill people, don't you?", even though we can be fairly sure that some reasonable regulation on business is not going to kill anyone).
I hope you realize whatever it is you're defending is not really capitalism, in that it more closely resembles some form of totalitarianism by giving businesses infinite, unchecked power.
I also hope you stop polluting a rational technical discussion with dogmatic ideology, user.

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Not an argument.

>Blocks off their websites to avoid complying with your nanny state regulations

The government blocking websites has LITERALLY NOTHING to do with net neutrality. The government can just as easily block websites if there is no net neutrality.

All net neutrality is, is the concept that my 5GB of bandwidth should be treated the same as your 5GB of bandwidth. An ISP should not charge you more money for your 5GB because you're watching videos on YouTube instead of their own ISPTube.

Actually it is called "Linux/GNU".

>if you're not a corporate bootlicking sycophant then you must be le gommunist :D
Gets me every time

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Fucking shills

The most important and significant part should come first, user. Hence, GNU/Linux.

What party do I have to sign up for so I don't get fucked over by commies and capitalists?

Suicide Party 2018

Solidarity Party
solidarity-party.org/

>Start ISP
>Provide 100MBit/s service at reasonable price
>Plenty of bandwidth
>Google/Amazon/Netflix begin video streaming
>Hollywood demands encrypted streams for DRM
>High bandwidth
>Impossible to cache in proxy
>100MBit not enough now
>Google/Amazon/Netflix demand direct access to my network
>My ISP has to pay for bandwidth upgrades
>For the benefit of Google/Amazon/Netflix
>I tell them no
>Only GAN encrypted video needs the bandwidth
>You pay for it
>GAN cries foul
>Tells everyone it's our fault
>Demands "Net Neutrality" legislation
>We take it to court
>We win in 2010
>GAN fight some more
>Get's new legislation passed in 2015
>We campaign against it
>America elects Trump who promises to block it
>Trump wins
>Trump blocks it
>Will of the people
>GAN still trying to get free access to my network at my expense
>Won't stop shilling on Jow Forums about it

Nice fanfic, faggot.
>Mark Jen, the chief technical officer of a small internet provider named Common, which was founded last year by a group of former Square employees, said that complying with net neutrality doesn’t require any work.
>“The default configuration of all of the [networking] equipment is to [follow net neutrality],” Jen says. “While net neutrality sounds like rules and regulations, it’s actually just saying everybody has to run stuff in the default mode, which is as fast as possible and great for everybody.”
>Rudy Rucker, co-founder of another small wireless internet provider named Monkeybrains, said his company hadn’t encountered any difficulties either. “Maybe there’s something I’m missing,” he said, “but it’s not bogging us down.”
>Small ISPs haven’t received the never-ending complaints some have feared.
>Peggy Dolgenos, the co-founder and co-CEO of an ISP named Cruzio, said her company has been rapidly improving its equipment. “We’ve been upgrading our infrastructure as fast as we can,” she says. Her company currently has 35 employees and serves about 9,000 customers. “We’ve been investing like crazy. We’re about to invest in a really big local project to install fiber optic cable in our downtown.”
>Many smaller ISPs said they saw net neutrality as an advantage for their business, too. “If you’re looking at what companies will get paid by big providers like Netflix, it’s not smaller ISPs, it’s large ISPs who already have practically a monopoly position,” Dolgenos says. “They’ll just cement their position, and it’ll just crush competition.”
>Over 40 small ISPs wrote their own letter to the FCC last month requesting that net neutrality stay in place: eff.org/deeplinks/2017/06/isps-across-country-tell-chairman-pai-not-repeal-network-neutrality
theverge.com/2017/7/13/15949920/net-neutrality-killing-small-isps

Free market is the oposite of corporativism.

Corporations only become corporations because they buy off the government for laws and subsides.

>it wasn't REAL free market!

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A real free market wouldn't have patents and trademark laws

>BBBUT MUH FREE MARKET, RESPECT THE ISPS FREEDOM TO BE A MONOPOLY AND JEW ALL MY SHEKELS
>IT'S OKAY IF I DON'T GET WHAT I PAID FOR
>LE REDDIT XDDDDDDDDDD

>believe in private property
>no property laws though XD
What would stop thieves then if stealing weren't illegal, you genius?

Actually I wouldn't mind internet being more expensive and exclusive. Poorfags are cancer.

Impalement.

>small ISP
>big pipes
>no customers

Of course they don't have a problem with encrypted video streaming
yet
but really
you're wasting your breath
NN is dead now
Coincidentally
10GBps fiber is now starting to roll out in the US
Amazing coincidence
I'm sure we can thank Obama for it somehow

This is a socialist board, you newfag.

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Net Neutrality+™ is literally John Oliver tier cancer. I am so sick of hearing normies who literally don't know what the purpose of an IP address is whining about net neutrality non-stop. Meanwhile, domain registrars, DNS operators, server hosts, certificate issuers, etc. are free to do whatever they please to the internet. "We don't like your website, so we're going to steal your domain name from you and revoke your certificates" If those companies are allowed to take an editorial stance on the content of the internet, then so are the ISPs. Net neutrality is just a bunch of angry silicon valley tech companies complaining because they want control over the internet, but they have to share it with ISPs, probably the only companies capable of wielding as much power as the tech companies.

When companies like Google stop pushing their marxist agendas, I'll give a fuck about what ISPs are doing.

Just because there are other problems that need to be dealt with does not mean we should ignore net neutrality. I definitely agree that there are many things that need to be addressed, but writing off NN because of that makes no sense.

Huhuhuh we got all this software but nothing to manage it.

Thus it is Linux/GNU brainlet.

I'm glad the Linux guy is a communist like myself

>unable
>you are unable to kill someone because homicide is illegal

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Edit the Wikipedia article.

GNU/Linux*

>pinochet- the first 9/11
calm down ahmed

I find it hilarious you fucks think Stallman's a commie, just shows how ignorant you all are. I love Stallman but his rhetoric is always the same bullshit of 'we need to just talk to people' or it's something along the lines of taking indivisual action. That may have worked in the 80's when computing was still in it's 'wild west' phase, but today he's fighting that same battle against what could be called the whole Capitalist system - corporations and the government. If he were a Communist, he'd actually realise how Capitalism and non-free software are tied together, and start making arguments for the general abolision of Capitalist society in favour of a more free Socialist one.

But no, furthest he goes is 'free healthcare' and 'we can make a difference if we use the right words'.