Jow Forums says use free software

>Jow Forums says use free software
>OS X is free
>Jow Forums does not use it, because they think it's not free (they can't afford a macbook)
fucking poorfags. I thought you all were good programmers? Good programmers usually have a job.

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Hey dude just looks this free game if you buy this graphic card

>Free
>Requires you to buy a $2000 laptop to get it
Also, wrong definition of free, fuckface.

>Good programmers usually have a job
I do have a job. I fucking wish I didn't.

Typing this from OSX right now and even I think OP is a fucking moron. I can't use this OS without paying thousands for this laptop im using you retard.

You’re not necessarily paying for the software when you buy a Mac tho

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MacBooks are the only laptop worth owning right now, anyone who says otherwise is a jealous poorfag or a genuine autist

>You’re not necessarily paying for the software when you buy a Mac tho
Oh, really? Why does the hardware need to be catered to your free OS then? Even when you do manage to download the OS for a Hackintosh.

>free
>requires proprietary hardware to use it

>implying 2000$ is all for the hardware
>kys

OS X is free? Show me its source code

>OSX
>Free

It's proprietary as shit, user

idiot macfags pay thousand $$$ to buy a bloated hardware for a free OS

it's free (Costs 0 Deutsche Mark)

>Free as in free beer
>Not as in free speech
The difference is subtle, I agree, but let me pull it the other way around
>Is it's code public?
if it is, there are good chances for it to be free. If not, it's proprietary

It's an Apple kind of free, or more accurately, gratis, meaning you're the product.
Big difference

Linux is free, as in open, you can see the code for yourself, propose a patch if youn run into an issue, etc. Can you do the same in (((MacOS)))?

Give me the source code, then.

>He thinks free means gratis
gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html
In the case of OSX, you're the product desu

with linux it's the same exact thing
you need specific hardware so it won't crash every minute and for the drivers to work properly
i would probably be forced to buy a second pc just for linux

>it's proprietary
it's free (you have to pay 0 Reichsmark)

Buying MAC is like buying your self a shit... it's useless.

And good programmers know the value of being able to replace laptop components.

More useful than Windows.

You're not necessarily paying for the hardware when you buy OS X

Name something general purpose you can do on one OS that you can't do on another (Linux, Mac, and Windows included). Not some specific shit like "comply a bit to doodle the googag". I mean things like "professionally edit a photo".

>Name something general purpose you can do on one OS that you can't do on another (Linux, Mac, and Windows included).
Obviously virtual machines are not included, then.
Some examples include, upgrading your system and all programs with a single command, installing an entirely different window manager or desktop environment without hacks, using alternative bootloaders, file systems, and so on.
>I mean things like "professionally edit a photo".
You can make money off any kind of photo, just find someone who will pay.

It is gratis because you're the product and because it's actually a malware.
See
gnu.org/proprietary/malware-apple.html

That just sounds like book keeping, not actually doing anything different.

>Login
>Root
>

Really, a reliable product, with no vector of attack possible

Go install a different bootloader on Windows then.

Proprietary != some item on sale

They mean free as in freedom, not as in free beer. Since the english lacks a word for this kind of free some people advise to use the latin word 'libre'.

No, it's just that free as in free beer is a contraction of the phrase free of charge, which means free as in freedom but is in reference to price.

>The liberty to run the program as you wish, for any purpose (freedom 0).
>OSX Has DRM
This one is moot

>The liberty to study how the program works, and change it so it does your computing as you wish (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this.
Where can you get OSX's source code?
this one is moot as well

>The liberty to redistribute copies so you can help others (freedom 2).
I'll let you this one if you give me a copy of OSX in the next 10 minutes

>The liberty to distribute copies of your modified versions to others (freedom 3). By doing this you can give the whole community a chance to benefit from your changes. Access to the source code is a precondition for this.
Still no source code? Too bad

Total: 1/4 at best, 0/4 at worst
Conclusion: OSX is not free

This is what we mean by Free (Libre) software. Not (((gratis))) software, ya fuckwit. Now, take your piece of shit bloatware botnet and go fuck yourself

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>The liberty to run the program as you wish, for any purpose (freedom 0).
You can't run in non mac hardware per license.

>Where can you get OSX's source code?
Some parts are available in the apple website, that's what makes the retarded op think osx is free software.

>>Where can you get OSX's source code?
>Some parts are available in the apple website, that's what makes the retarded op think osx is free software.
it has to be the totality thereof to be considered libre

>>The liberty to run the program as you wish, for any purpose (freedom 0).
>You can't run in non mac hardware per license.
What has hardware to do with it? Besides, what the fuck did you even mean by that? Please reformulate

>it has to be the totality thereof to be considered libre
I know, that's why I said op is retarded. Also some of the stuff is just open source, not fully free.

>What has hardware to do with it? Besides, what the fuck did you even mean by that? Please reformulate
You said freedom 0 was moot. I was clarifying that it is not. With mac os you do not have freedom 0. Apple prohibits you from running it in non mac hardware.

My bad, I thought you were the retarded OP
Besides, when I say it's moot, I thought you would get that OSX doesn't respect it. Should have been clearer
nice get, tho

lol, why do you start counting at 0? HAHAHA

>The absolute state of Jow Forums

You never did programming, so you wouldn't know, but arrays always start at 0.

OSX isn't getting any less proprietary