Explain to me how privacy is not just a commie meme pushed by pedophiles and terrorists.
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>Explain to me how privacy is not just a commie meme pushed by pedophiles and terrorists.
If you don't know by now I don't think you would understand even if it were explained to you
Commies don't even believe in private property. Why do you think they would be interested in privacy?
Not true, by the way
>It's another toddler communist who doesn't understand his own ideology episode
no u
Privacy is an individual right, communists believe in personal property. Private property doesn't come into it, private property is about the means of production.
>Can't own land to have a house and homestead
>Private property doesn't come into it
If you never own whatever you're using to interface with the internet or whatever it may be then you have no privacy.
Fuck off little underage commies. Fucking hell I'm tired of nu4chan
>commies supporting privacy
You are such a goddamn fucking retard
>thinks communists believe in personal property
>forgets that communists are strongly against high profile banking, they’re against hoarding of goods using personal funds, and support acquisition of personal wealth
Jesus fucking Christ this board is goddamn stupid
I’m with you man
If this don't bait I don't know what it is.
Post a nude image of yourself with a timestamp along with you banking and social security details. I want a full name and date of birth. Also tell me the names and dates of birth of all of you immediate family and closest friends.
If you don't comply, you're the commie here. Now get strip naked and dance, pinko.
>gommie europeans going after american companies like facebook trying to regulate and break them apart because "muh privacy" meme
>retarded libertarians actually defend them because their love for economic freedom and fear of regulation disappears when protecting their privacy so they can keep their precious little child porn is what's at stake
Priceless, love seeing the insincere ideologues that libertarians and communists are being forced to agree. Goes to show that you're both wrong.
>privacy
>commie
lol, you are truly retarded
no way you're 18
Your logical fallacy is the appeal to extremes:
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>Thinks the reason is privacy or that anything is going to happen to Facebook (not even a euro company)
More brainless underage newfags
Have you been living under a rock or something? How are you not aware of what's going on in the European (Soviet) Union right now? You must be the underage here.
>their real motivation isn't privacy
You inadvertently proved my point: privacy is just a meme. Thanks for playing.
No. My point was the government doesn't give two fucks about privacy you fucking retarded kid.
Aside from the fact that Silicon Valley is leftist, people knew what they were getting into when they blabbed online about their lives. Only a complete fucking moron thinks he has privacy on the internet. It will be fun watching Zuck the Cuck get eaten alive by his own people.
are they communists and guaranteeing peoples privacy?
Tell me what is going on here.
This is the only reason why I don't give two fucks about what happens to him and hope he gets the government dick.
If they weren't little faggot lefties themselves I wouldn't want it to happen but it's time for them to lie in the grave they've made.
>muh logical fallacy
Ahahahahahahahahaha. Look at you, needing to categorize and dumb down everything you see. Prove me wrong. You don't think anyone should have privacy? You start first, nigger. Get naked on camera. What, you think rules are for everyone else but not for you? Kill yourself, you mouth breathing jew fuck.
I was a philosophy major once upon a time. All fallacies are bullshit. Someone got butthurt because fallacies are so frequently correct.
Claiming that privacy is for terrorists and other enemies of the state is commie shit though. Privacy is the most fundamental liberty without which no other can exist.
The defenders of privacy in congress are frequently the Democrats though. Republicans are the ones who always want to sacrifice in the name of "muh children" and "muh terrorism".
>he thinks Republicans and Democrats are any different
>he thinks they aren't two sides of the same kosher jew-controlled shekel
Lmao, look at this retard.
thats becasue republicans are actually authoritarian fascists
Jews are so powerful. I wish I were one!
>got kicked out of logic class
>thinks all fallacies are bullshit
typical of Jow Forums.
That's because nu-Republicans are literally a bunch of sellout who would sell their birthright for a mess of pottage. Too bad Democrats are a bunch of limp wristed faggots who are too occupied by pointless drivel like feminism and identity politics to be a viable alternative.
Got something to hide, boys?
Would you allow a random stranger on the streets to check the contents of your pockets? You probably don't have anything in them which could put you in trouble but you'd still be rightfully outraged. Only someone who has no dignity at all would be okay with such treatment and people like that aren't free men but wretched creatures.
But to answer your question, yes - I have literally everything to hide. Especially towards the state. The "nothing to hide"-mentality inverts the idea that a government should be afraid of its people and is not only insulting but utterly Un-American.
Selling out is the most American thing you can do, because it gives you more money.
you're either a terrorist or pedophile. probably both. fuck off.
Communism comes in many forms, user. You should know this with how you talk down to people.
>Explain to me how privacy is not just a commie meme pushed by pedophiles and terrorists.
Let me put it this way: If I had your entire browsing history, I could most likely make you unemployable for life.
There is no one in this world that is so pure and careful, that they had done nothing that could be used against them by putting things in the correct light to utterly and completely destroy their life.
Reported for avatarfagging.
>European (Soviet) Union
Things really did change around here since the 2016 election, didn't they
>random stranger
We're not taking about random strangers, we're talking about the police.
>a government should be afraid of its people
Not if you're a criminal. If you're a criminal, you should be afraid of the police.
>not only insulting but utterly Un-American
You know what is unAmerican? Terrorism.
>we're talking about the police.
In first world countries the police can't just search in the middle of th street you for no reason
>the police
Has no right to do this without a legal cause. Also, internet surveillance is mostly done by private corporations like Google, i.e. random strangers.
>criminals
Putting the whole population of a country under general suspicion and demanding they should prove their innocents is the very definition of totalitarianism, i.e. commie shit.
>Terrorism
You know who were terrorists? The founding fathers. They committed acts of terror against tyranny and servitude.
>the founding fathers were terrorists
Allahu Aqbar, my friend!
>internet surveillance is mostly done by private corporations like Google, i.e. random strangers
IT'S
IN
THE
TOS
The difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter is the later won their fight. Even your hero Stalin knew that much.
Just like it's in the Facebook TOS. Doesn't hinder them to track you even when you never used it.
>IT'S
How do I get into iTS tracker?
APOLLO TM+
Jow Forums go away
This is now the Jow Forums containment thread
>You know what is unAmerican? Terrorism.
This country was founded by terrorists.
>Loving and trusting the police due to an authority fetish
Christ bruddah, the police aren't perfect.
They are humans.
They are flawed.
They get corrupted by power. l
They are often manipulated.
Police are a form of violence enacted by a government on its people to control them.
Should be used sparingly, and their power kept in check.
If we are too afraid of doing something wrong or illegal, we won't experiment and try new things and be creative and discover.
In the America of old, the people of a town would protect their interests from the invading foreign rich fuckers (foreign as in from NY) with banker money trying to come into their town, buy it up, and twist its economy to their profit.
With guns.
As a militia.
People, communities, towns, banding together and protecting their interests.
A people can invade from within the same country.
The illusion of nations makes us forget this.
Invasions by the poor are motivated by unethical actions of the rich and the poor should be aided in their plight.
Invasions of the rich are motivated by the greed of the rich and a desire to reshape an entire economy into profiting an individual, corporation, or group of shareholders.
The corrupt rich must be driven out if they use their money and power to exploit entire towns, states, communities, peoples, nations.
Being rich isn't a crime.
Using your wealth to corrupt the economy to perpetuate that personal wealth should be.
Privacy is not just a right for individuals, but for peoples and communities.
We should have the right to self determination.
This allows America to be the diverse and beautiful place it was promised to be.
If you don't like how we do it in this town, try another.
That logic only works if the towns are allowed to be different and diverse, and aren't all controlled and molded by the same rich overlords.
America
Freedom
Democracy
Live your own way
Love thy neighbor
user, can you please make a copy of all your files and upload them onto Mega and send me the link? You have nothing to hide so there should be no problem with me looking at all of your files, right? Also your search history would be nice.
>goverments want privacy
>somehow they're not terrorists or pedophiles
kek
for real though i think there are often details between some statement and conclusion which should be filled in, but its often okay to omit because people already know them, but if they don't know them or you disagree, then yeah, you got to fill that shit in.
Oppaitime down for anyone else? I can't seem to access the website.
>European (Soviet) Union
>2018.
What?!
down for me as well
>you're either a terrorist or pedophile. probably both. fuck off.
You're either underage or somehow over 18 and still attempting to be taken seriously with this.
Yes, I value my privacy
Good for you, kid.
>privacy
>commie meme
Quite paradoxical, don't you think so?
Everything said ITT summarizes the ultimate state of Jow Forums.
I have no problems with this but I don't gain anything from doing it and it would take a long time so I wont.
You're right. It can't possibly be a commie meme because leftists can't meme.
You'd gain credibility, you're just another hypocrite at this current moment
That's a jump in logic. There's nothing for me to gain and it's a pain in the ass to do. That's why you don't see me do it. There was no winning for me there. You already knew that. Witches and stakes. Oh how they burn.
wow, jews got to you, didn't they?
You are the one making the claim, that you don't mind doing it, it's up to you to either back up your claim with proof, or just accept that you're just blowing hot air, ball's in your court user, but I remain skeptical that you will follow through
100x this
my parents lived when fucking commies were all around and they had no privacy whatsoever. there were commie spies everywhere listening in on conversations and shit and if you said something they didn't like you were sent to jail (best case scenario).
>I'm the one making the claim
Splendid observation
>it's up to you
Splendid observation
>just accept that you're just blowing hot air
I'm not a hot air balloon.
>ball's in your court
You can have it back, free of charge.
>but I remain skeptical that you will follow through
Gee, maybe because I've already explained to you why I wouldn't in my first post? Ever thought of that Einstein?
Privacy from the government doesn't need to be defended. The US, at least, is founded on the principle that someone is innocent until proven guilty. If the government has no cause to believe thag you may have committed a crime, then they have no reason to surveill you. At best, mass surveillance is a presumption of guilt, simply waiting for the evidence to be found. At worst, it's intentional collection if data for population control.
Privacy from corporations doesn't need to be defended, either. If someone doesn't want to be surveillance by a company, they are of course free not to use that company's service. And of course a company is free to collect information that you've agreed to let them collect. However, a company intentionally attempting to collect data on people who do not use their service is tantamount to random strangers stalking you.
Give credit card number
I wanna buy myself shit
Also post password and email
Okey dokey user, in the absence of any proof of your claim, I'll have to just accept that you're full of shit, not that I had much doubt, but still
>gives valid reasons why one wouldn't go through with it
>you're just full of shit
Don't be unreasonable.
>ITT: Ameritards who have zero clue about how the rest of the world is
What if they actually are
Alex Jones was right.
Why do I care about protecting my data?
1) It's an extra layer of security against theft, incompetence, or malice (e.g. killer ex-girlfriend).
2) To the people who says "If you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to fear" then I say "but I do have something to hide!". Even if it's not something illegal that I've done at any point in the past, present, or future, there's still plenty of stuff that I'd like other people to not know about, like my family situation, my health, who I've lied to, my relationships, how much I drink, my finances, whatever dumb shit I did as a kid, and whatever hobbies that I'm not proud of. I don't know about you, but I'd like to minimise my chance of getting embarrassed or outright blackmailed.
3) Even if I don't have something to hide, I bet that I've got my friend's secrets saved somewhere (e.g. emails, chat logs). I wouldn't want to put my friends at risk.
4) Why do I care about protecting my data from huge companies and governments? Because people make mistakes and sooner or later you can bet on one of these companies getting hacked (Google it, this shit happens all the time). Furthermore, what if the government turns bad (e.g. we vote in a far left/right party or a heavily religious one)? No doubt they'll have collected plenty of data before they went bad (e.g. they could've made the laws a decade ago, and then someone evil got elected) and then all they have to do once they go bad is read it. Heck, for all we know they could already be bad. How many people can honestly say that they trust the government?
5) What if I make some real enemies? The less information they have on me, the better.
6) People get arrested for what they say on the internet. You'd be a fool to not have some protection against this. For all you know, there could come a day where someone, whether that be the police or some enemies of yours who've reported to the police, could ruin you.
>privacy
>commie
"Fuck off and leave me alone" is the ultimate capitalist libertarian value.
>statement: proof?
It's okay to tell little fibbies on the internet user, just don't get too defensive when you're caught out
Its not because you have nothing to hide they have nothing to find
>because it gives you more money.
>he thinks giving corporations complete total authority and power gives him more money
How delusional are you?
You're deliberately talking past my points for no real reason other than childish pride. You point out the obvious and don't actually move the conversation forward beyond your initial post. This isn't a conversation. You're not responding to my post. You're a wall.
Actually everything government do should be open an public. There is some countries where it's like that.
He's talking about the politician. The corporations give the politicians money to do what they want.
God damn you're dense.
Why is it always the left taking the stand for privacy then, user?
Explain the right's constant fight to eliminate privacy then, user.
But we cannot move this conversation forwards at all, we've hit a wall of your own construction, you've made a statement, I have told you that I won't be convinced without proof, you refuse to provide it, so what should I do? Just accept your baseless claim is the truth? I'm sorry user, but I believe you are lying
> privacy
> commie meme
Top kek. I don't find reasonable explaining something to a shitposter.
Modern regressive liberals don't take a stand for privacy. Classical liberals did, and they had more libertarian values. Traditional conservative Republicans have never had libertarian values, and have always been authoritarian. Read a book once in a while.
kek, "left" and "right" are functionally the same. The only time the left gives a shit about privacy is when someone on the right is doing something anti-privacy. They're all authoritarians.
Nothing? Prove me wrong user, dox yourself, post a picture with a timestamp, maybe a snappy line like "gas the kikes" and post your full name, DOB, address, and all social media accounts, and then post the same information for your immediate family
That's not so onerous, and seeing as you don't care about privacy I'm sure you'll have no problem doing this
You didn't answer my question.
I definitely answered your question. If you didn't understand what I said, it just shows how politically illiterate you are. Seriously, read a book or something. It's good for you.
>left vs right
Left and right are useless oversimplification of a system with at least 2 axes and have no place in serious discourse. They serve only to muddy conversations and break things down into an easily manipulated dichotomy.
Didn't think so, fag
I think that really only applies if he did it crossthreads (here he retains his anonymity after the thread is over).
And for some reason the namefags who post fucking everywhere don't get banned either. I don't think your outrage is pointed in the right direction.
>And of course a company is free to collect information that you've agreed to let them collect.
Does anybody even read the TOS? In most cases it takes less than five minutes to create an account and start using an online service. It would take hours to read an entire ToS and days to comprehend it.
Therefore normies are never going to understand just how badly they are being data-mined. Many would still not care.
In the future using social media is going to become much more integral for finding employment, collaboration, etc.
Not using their services is just not an option for most people.
Plus when normies don't know/care about their privacy they make state surveillance so much easier.
>Does anybody even read the TOS?
What difference does it make? If you agree to a contract without reading it, you can't point a finger at the other party.
If normies don't want to care about privacy, then that's their choice. There's plenty of information out there about how people are being mined, especially now with the Facebook stuff. Normies know. They don't care. Making something illegal because you "know better" is authoritarian big brother shit and it's just as bad as surveillance. I seriously don't even know what point you're trying to make.
>this is Jow Forums in 2018
which was the best year?
You most definitely did not.