Why does Europe have no major tech companies? USA has them, Asia has them, Europe has at best a few small dev firms...

Why does Europe have no major tech companies? USA has them, Asia has them, Europe has at best a few small dev firms, most of whom just end up getting bought by USA tech giant companies like Google, Microsoft, etc.

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Advertisement and botnet companies are not tech companies.

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Too much taxes and regulation strangling everyone.

I mean, you can try to joke your way around it but you have to admit he's right.

kys retard

let's not forget law companies, like Oracle

he isn't, though. Asia has mostly consumer electronics enslavements and murrica has mostly cancer

Sure, but you're currently posting on a device made by one of them.

And it's a piece of shit. What a coincidence.

Then why don't you make something better?

This.

Because I don't like melting sand, only to make it compatible to the botnet.

>Everything that exists is a piece of shit we're better because we make nothing

Please kill yourself dumbfuck

>Why does Europe have no major tech companies?
Because nobody wants to be micromanaged by a bunch of commercial and academic failures turned bureaucrat.

The tools making your botnet CPUs are made by EU companies.
now kys

Bless your hearts.

rofl

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This. Consumer protection laws, privacy laws, and labor laws are very strict and slanted against businesses hence why very few tech companies are based in Europe.

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because european countries and the EU apparatus make it difficult to start and maintain a company, compared to the US or Asia.

Like the new GDPR, that makes it immensely more difficult for small companies due to all the legal crap you have to comply with and can easily get fucked over for, unless you can afford a bunch of lawyers.
If someone wants to abuse it and fuck with you, this makes it easy.
No wonder some US companies simply decided to block EU visitors for now, instead of dealing with these ridiculous requirements.

The EU literally treats people like incompetent children.
>whaaat? whats a cookie? TRACKING ME? That sounds evil. Better make a law that will force EVERY WEBSITE IN EXISTENCE to show a retarded modal or banner to tell you that there is a cookie. Not like you could simply disable or whitelist cookies in your browser if you were so concerned.
Fucking EU bureaucrats

Neo/g/ will ignore facts and call anyone who points this out a Jow Forumstard, alt righter or something equally stupid.

There's a reason people don't remain statists or lefties long if they try to start up a business.

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>just let the companies fuck over the people, goyim :^)

but you're the neo/g/

>we make nothing
Even my broken-ass hometown has multiple companies that are world-leaders in their industry segment.
I'm glad we leave the meme toys to other.

> strawman god I'm so smart

Time to go back to your Rick and Morty programming little kid

>N-n-no you're neo/g/

Not even close.

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>Consumer protection laws, privacy laws, and labor laws are very strict
As they should be. People > companies.

There are laws for that already.
It's people responsibility what they share and which data they give to what company.
>better tell this company my life story
>oh no, don't track me
>DELET THIS
people have to take responsibility for how they handle their own data.

if you are at a party and act like a drunk retard and someone takes a pic of you clearly displaying your drunk retardness.
Does the government then come in and force the person who took the image to offer a service where they reply to requests of which pictures they have of you and comply with delete requests in a set time frame?

Maybe also ask the EU to tuck people in at night because they can't be trusted with that either.

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Not that it matters. As soon as tech giants feel like it, they will move, since they have the ressources.

>i-i'll call him reddit xD
back to the shithole you've crawled from
Jow Forums was always pro consumer you piece of shit

>t. non business owner/mindless consumer

It's hard to have any kind of successful business model in a command-economy with high taxes and insane regulations. That's not to say that businesses don't exist in Europe, but most people, if they have an idea worth selling, just move to America or some other country.

It's a balance you fuckwit. Ever think that you might have tipped it too far in one way when you send the businesses running because absolutely no one wants to actually run a business in your shithole?

>You can't have a good market and be pro consumer

Fuck off and make a noose already you underage Rick and Morty viewing newfag.

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not enough freedoms

The EU focuses on specialized tools and finance. The US was the birthplace of everything to do with the internet and computing, so it's no surprise that internet based services, social media companies and consumer tech went mainstream there.

The EU instead has a lot of small companies that provide very specialized services. The regulations here would destroy all those tech giants, because they are ultimately anti-consumer, while the US is built entirely on being anti-consumerist and who can build the biggest monopoly with the support of the government. It's good to be a citizen/consumer in the EU, sucks if you're a business. So in a way I'm glad the EU is strict on this shit, we already have the U.S, no need for another place to do more of the same.

>Jow Forums before GDPR was widely known about
>muh privacy
>non-free software and botnets bad reee
>I always use VPN
>use Linux for privacy concerns

>Jow Forumsafter GDPR
>FUCKING COMMIES TRYING TO PROTECT OUT PRIVACY WTF

There is no pleasing you fucks.

Has zero to do with privacy. If you honestly believe the government anywhere cares a lick for privacy you're the most naive person here.

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>underage Rick and Morty viewing newfag
I've been here before captcha and fermi. Do you even know who was suigintou or silicondoc, newfag cancer.

>what is BitDefender

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A piece of snakeoil trash.
Plz come up with some better example or leave the EU immediately.

I've been here since y157 and the like was posted daily on /b/. Don't talk down to me sport.

as the otehr user said, it has nothing to do with privacy really.
And orivacy on the internet is your own responsibility anyway.
Just like it is to protect various other things in your life, protection your privacy is one of those.
Various other things would make way more sense, like making companies not store passwords in plain text.
Or enabling better competition, that will lead to you being able to get more than 5GB of mobile data a month.

Because the USA is a corporatocracy where companies are allowed to do whatever the fuck they want and pay their way into getting the laws they want.

So for lawmakers and rich people in the USA, everyone else is a slave one way or another, a potential resource that your business could exploit. They have no consumer rights, companies in the USA sell literal crap in a bag as food and people buy that in droves. They think it's "meat" or "potatoes" but it's actually some dubious paste mixed with artificial flavours which looks "cruncy" and "tasty".

Yeah Muricuns are like that.. and they actually like it that way.

So of course most of these hyped up venture-capital-backed scams are located there, because that's the place where they can thrive as global vampires, enabled by a completely corrupt state.

Have you seen how lawmakers in the Congress were licking Zuckerjew's ass during the last hearing? They were all over the place, they were close to jumping from their seats and asking for an autograph for their facebook-addicted offspring.

Oh yeah, that's Muricah for you.

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This. If you had a major product that you can deliver worldwide in half a second why would you put your HQ in the worst place in the developmented world for you when you could easily move to USA or Canada and be much more globally competitive?

This is incredibly unreasonable thing to ask of the average user. 99.99999999999999% of people aren't woke af Jow Forums & Jow Forums browsers, who read every ToS, don't use any of the mainstream social media platforms and root their phones for maximum anti botnet fedora levels.

>take responsibility for their own actions
People are products of their environments, they only do what others do around them. They don't magically acquire knowledge of how they are getting fucked by these companies. Most people want shit for free, they don't care that their data is being sold and used to shill them products. This is why Apple got so popular, because their shit just works.

>if you are at a party and act like a drunk retard and someone takes a pic of you clearly displaying your drunk retardness.
I don't know about the US but in the EU people are educated on the effects of Alcohol, Smoking and substance abuse. If you then continue to consume these products and act like a retard, then sure, that's on you. If you're a company that does everything it can to make it as difficult as possible for the end user to know what the fuck is going on, that's a completely different scenario. The average person is not educated in Corporate Law.

>Thinks every government everywhere isn't corrupt

Imagine being this much of a naive faggot

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>this kills the amerimutt

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It's not even that. In tech, you have to be agile and able to adapt to changing trends very quickly, else your business dies. It's not like factories where workers will do the same thing day in and day out for years, if not, decades. Businesses need the ability to trim the fat and fire lazy, worthless employees who either don't contribute or are ignorant in their alleged area of expertise.

does turkey count as yurop?
because vestel shit is in fucktons of low budget home entertainment tech

>zero to do with privacy

Except it has everything to do with privacy. Limiting what companies can store, how long, giving people the option of transparency by making sure companies follow the rules by making them compliant to hand over data stored on you when requested.

If they feel like implementing a system that can do the latter, just don't store anything. Unless we're talking Facebook where everything is revolving around stored info, most services shouldn't have to give up anything more than a tiny spreadsheet with basic info that the user entered themselves + basic login logs.

Then there's the most important part about GDRP; revealing data breaches within 48 hours of discovery. You have every right to know whether or not you can actually trust the company hoarding your data.

Oh wait, you Americans don't even give a shit considering how Equifax is STILL FUCKING STANDING when it should have been burned to the fucking ground.

Just no.

Except it doesn't dumbfuck. Euro governments that have a history of heavy handed regulations and invasions / infringements suddenly care about privacy? You think the EU fucking cares about your privacy? How delusional are you children?

yuropoors are too busy servicing jamal's cock to do anything productive.

Literally the only somewhat successful European based tech company I can think of

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Very appropriate

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>vestel
Says the guy from a country that had a nignog president for 8 years and has like 15% of the population made of "Afro-Muriccuns".

Meanwhile Europe is 90%+ white.

>suddenly care

Nigga, the EU has been on the privacy train since the 90's with directive 95/46/EC.

Please. Stop embarrassing yourself.

>implying nazifags who want to listen to skrewdriver can afford to pay for a music streaming service

the EU privacy thing is one of the reasons voted to remain.
Some of us still remember the whole BT/phorm shitsow

>EU
>Caring

I almost feel sorry for you if you honestly think the government anywhere cares about you, or your rights. Ignoring the countless other ways in which the EU and individual governments destroy said rights as much as the US and others do. Or even ignoring the actions of people like Merkel to single handedly ruin an entire nation with her actions.

The only thing that's embarrassing is your naivety.

Don't be harsh. He's just a mutt and doesn't know better.

>Meanwhile Europe is 90%+ white
not for long hans.

given how much you faggots hate yourselves these projections will fall short.

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I know Americans have a warped sense of perception regarding governments around the world due to how severely they get fucked in the arse by lobbying and corporations running rampant, but unlike in the US, most of EU has governments that actually represent the people.

If the killing of net neutrality was a situation in most of EU states, the outcry would have been enough to stop it from being killed, as unlike the American government, ours are not run by the very same companies preying on people's shekels. They actually listen, but considering the extreme lack of awares of ANYTHING happening outside their own country, I wouldn't expect an American to understand.

>Spotify
>Nokia
>Philips
>Opera
>Ubisoft
>Deezer
>Supercell
>Dailymotion
>Ericsson
>Soundcloud
>Ableton
>Rovio
>Jolla
>SwiftKey
>Last.fm
>Mixcloud
>Yandex
>VKontakte
>Kapersky

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You're getting fucked just as hard as Americans are dipshit. Look at the Muslim immigration, look at your rights in other areas like firearm ownership or free speech.

You are so fucking naive if you think governments anywhere are not corrupt. You've had site blockages in plenty of EU countries, you've had hate speech arrests and much more.

Don't pretend for a second like your shit doesn't stink.

>gubermens are always against you despite being made by the people
>but muh muslims tho

Excellent way to prove my point.

You don't think that's a problem?

So you're naive and stupid then.

guns still in hand. no one is arrested for speech unlike in the eu, last year countless germans arrested for "hate speech".

Are muricans just dumb or is there some major information war starting between EU and US? You guys come up woth the most ridicolous shit I cant help but wonder there are major desinfo campaigns going on

>Major tech companies

ARM, NIGGERS
ARM FROM THE UK

Used to anyway before some nips bought it.

>skype
>soundcloud / last.fm /Shazam
>A lot of AAA video game companies (Rockstar, Ubisoft, Mojang, Splash Damage, Crytek)
>a lot of movie/vfx/games tech development
>also this

It just seems like nothing happens here because the EU is so fragmented, being a union of smaller countries which are very different from each other. We have a lot of companies, just not giant monopolies.

A few million muzzos migrated to like 3 countries: Germany, Sweden and UK.

Guess what, Europe is bigger, MUCH bigger than 3 countries. Eastern Europe is free of muzzos, for example. We're 95% white.

So, yea, hyperbole is cool, but it's missing reality by a long shot.

The EU is allowing that though and pushing for and supporting it. How can you think they are not corrupt whilst they do that and more? Unless you think that's honestly a good thing?

Look at germanies future prospects now. You think that isn't going to leak over? Are you incapable of thinking about anything sans the short term?

There are European tech companies but they are not as big as Microsoft/Apple/Google/Facebook. US was first in these fields due to lots of factors and it's hard to change a monopoly. In general tho US pays more and has less strict regulation, which equals to highest wealth discrepancy in developed world and shitty live for those without good job but results in extraordinary pay to specialist while established monopolies help attract them. Asia is just another end of the spectrum, highly collectivist in case of Japan with a strong government support for tech sector like China, also cheap workforce.

European tech companies make industrial level equipment.
Go back to starbucks and get BLACKED by Tyrone while slurping AIDS contaminated semen off your macbook.

>Oh no, I got proven wrong
>better pull out some shitty strawman to save my ass

You're naivete is actually charming.

>muslim migration
Is this 2015? Is the US still bombing Syria non-stop? Stop drinking the Info-Wars koolaid. Also, most of them are in south european countries and sweden. The majority of them get sent back, even from Germany.
>my "right" to own a firearm somehow determines how much freedom the country has
>free-speech
Sure, i'll give you that one. However, being able to say nigger and call for extermination of the jews in a public place is very low on my list of things I want to say. Hate-speech laws are against discrimination based on gender, race, etc. You can criticize and discriminate everything else as much as you like. Don't pretend the sargon esque "liberalists" are even remotely equipped to have an intellectual debate on immigration.

I am enjoying this new cunny posting method.

Lmao no wonder amerilards are so ready to give up their freedums. As long as much guns are in and the muzzies are out they couldnt care less

>It's okay our rights are violated I didn't want them anyway

You're still ignoring the basic point. Your government is corrupt along with everyone else's. It infringes the same as everyone else's.

You're actually defending hate speech laws though so I suppose I might as well be talking to a wall at this point. You don't care about the infringements or your rights to begin with.

It's the best thing in life

Most ignorant posts I've seen in a while. I've repeatedly acknowledged infringements by many governments including my own. I have no love for my government.

You're too much of a sports team tier idiot to see that though. Fucking brainless ape.

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Google is objectively a tech company. Also stop using the term botnet for anything that uses your information. A botnet is literally only a network of infected computers used to attack other computers, stop using the term incorrectly.

You still haven't provided an argument. You literally don't care about anything as long as you can shoot brown people. I'm glad fascism has left my country years ago

Because major tech companies want to sell our data to the highest bidder and EU doesn't agree with that.

The EU is supporting giving aid to people fleeing from countries that the US bombed into the fucking ground. Granted, they handled it poorly but who is prepared to deal with so many people in such a short period of time. Giving people asylum status is not the same as citizenship, they still largely live in shitty conditions with no quality of life. Most of them have already been turned back or will be kicked out once it's safe enough for them to go home.

These alt-right/nationalists types have done a really good job of poisoning the well. Everyone obviously proceeded to blow it out of proportion, especially all those american e-ecelebs. I love how the likes of Lauren Southern are telling me, what it's like to live in my own country. Really makes you think.

Most rich EU countries are led by conservative governments, it is not in their interests to have a bunch of refugees suckling on their social programs when they want to reduce the tax spendings on those systems.

I have a solution for you burgers stop bombing the middle east and fucking over the only bastion of European heritage you faggots love to talk about so much.

>Hate-speech laws are against discrimination based on gender, race, etc.
how do you know what the censors censor when you cannot see it? the pile of censored material in your country is likely a treasure trove of things damning politicians.

someone saying mean things is a small price to pay for transparency and no gatekeepers.

>>It's okay our rights are violated I didn't want them anyway
Given it's the only Jow Forums-relevant thing here: What rights does the GDPR viotlate?

>how do you know what the censors censor when you cannot see it?
The censorship is done by public court cases. It's far from secret.

I've defended free speech, internet liberties and gun rights here. Maybe when you grow up little redditor you'll see how liberties are intertwined and how no matter where you go every governmental system is corrupted.

Poisoning the well? You all lap up a huge handful of water that's known to be poisonous and then accuse people who have no hand in it of poisoning you? You fucking redditors are delusional. You're accepting them in, no one is forcing you to. Your government is doing that.

The one you so vehemently defend. Notice how I'm not defending mine nor our military interventions.

not really. even if that was the case you think a small subset of the pop should determine what can be seen by everyone else? when they are hand pickled by the government and likely are the most ardent supporters of the regime.

you are such a deluded fuckwit true believer.

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The right to force you 100MB of js and XSS for 5 lines of text ;^)

Eastern Europe refuses migrants, antimigration parties have gained ground even in Germany, Italy just got an anti-migration government. The worm has turned.

Those shitskins who arrived in Europe are starting to feel afraid for their future here. People are fighting back against the mainstream bullshit of Merkel and her ilk.

not that guy but we should ship all migrants to US and UK because they destabilize ME for their jewish overlords

>you're actually defending hate speech laws
Have you actually read any of these hate speech laws? I bet you're one of those Bill C-16 memers as well, because daddy Peterson makes such compelling arguments that he makes himself cry.

I'm for not discriminating people based on their orientation,gender,race and that's basically what hate speech laws are. I'm sorry that you feel that your "right" to call every black person you see a nigger is violated. Other than this woke af skeptic meme, what "rights" don't Europeans have?

If you unironically believe the EU is going to harm big multinational corps you're just retarded. They aren't "American business," they're international. The EU is making itself look good after doing noting but a show trial and people are falling for it just like they fell for muh congress hearing on Facebook in the US.

Wake up and smell reality fags. You're not in a world run by beuracrats and you're not in a world run by corporations. You're in a world jointly owned and operated by beuracrats and corporations (esp. Banks). They make noise about one another all the time but it's just for show. One can't rule without the other. The iron law of Oligarchy.

Good. I don't hope you guys get overrun, I don't want to see everywhere turn into America in that regard.

Do I honestly sound like the kind of fag who watches Petersen to you?

You can try and sugar coat it all you want dumbfuck you still support criminalizing speech. You're a little useful idiot anti racist just like the rest of your Reddit brethren.

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lol you're a deluded fuckwit. the loose language of hate speech laws means you can be in trouble for a lot more than calling someone a nigger. there was a man who was taken through courts for over 2 years for a joke like teaching his pug to seig heil right after he gave the context of nazis being disgusting to him.

Unironically this. There's nothing more cringe than watching the proles fight over which of their two rulers is worse. They're both shit. Deal with it.

Your shit site is going down, zukerkike.