What do you think about these new age tech giant billionaires like Elon musk and Jeff Bezos? I think finally some billionaires uses their money for something good and I mean space travel.
It's good that they took action in their own hands because governments are unwilling to do this now days. NASA gets funding only for making some military shit which doesn't benefit humanity as a whole.
>In September 2000, Bezos founded Blue Origin, a human spaceflight startup company.[56] Bezos has long expressed an interest in space travel and the development of human life in the solar system.[21] He was the valedictorian when he graduated from high school in 1982. His speech was followed up with a Miami Herald interview in which he expressed an interest to build and develop hotels, amusement parks, and colonies for human beings who were in orbit. The 18-year-old Bezos stated that he wanted to preserve Earth from overuse through resource depletion.
I think it’s a refreshing change from billionaires using their money only for personal luxuries, pass it on to their heirs or use it to feed niggers in Africa and worsen overpopulation. At least these investments are helping advance science and tech, and in a way governments have been slacking off on for a few decades now
Austin Cox
This so much. Fucking Bill Gates and his cancer charity to feed and hiv vaccine africans. He could use his and Buffets money for something really meaningful which would benefit whole humanity.
Ryder Lopez
But dude, Onga Bongo the witch doctor needs food for his 7th child.
Yeah, long term not only will those Africans not contribute to humanity, but be a weight on our ankle dragging us down. Fuck every “charity” for helping make even more of them (and embezzling tons of money in the process). The money would be better spent on science, at least that will have a lasting benefit
Leo Gonzalez
Only second tier thinkers like Musk and Bezos give a shit about space travel, it's a fucking meme
Top tier thinkers like Kurzweil know that transhumanism is what we should be focusing on. What the fuck is the point in spending trillions of dollars to make space habitable for humans when within a few decades we will be turning humans into a non-biological substrate, negating all of the biome creation which is just a middleman for energy derived from the sun.
t. 18yo who's library includes "The Singularity is Near" and "Ready Player One"
Samuel Lopez
Are we entering the second gilded age?
Zachary Morris
Their charities are a mean to evade taxes. They are all the same. The end game is profit. Musk is just operating a sponsorship scheme (hey, see my logo on the fucking rocket!) which borders a ponzi tactic. Come on! Its 2018. Everyone knows this already.
Utter brainlets. If you think that we've reached some kind of plateau you have neglected to notice that there's a highly advanced computer that runs off of 30W of power directly behind your eyeballs. A lot of it is redundant and evolved in a highly energy scarce environment. We're not even close to reaching the practical limitations of computation, and especially not nanotechnology, see Eric Drexler.
We will make progress in transhumanism a lot sooner than space.
Trying to colonise Mars in 2500 will look as quaint and embarrassing as the Victorians vision of future technology
We have basically no idea how a brain works or how to produce functioning nanomachines now. We are nowhere.
Nicholas Campbell
Transhumanists are retards, the technology is fucking ages away. Meanwhile we have rockets going up and coming back down on a regular basis. If SpaceX or Blue Origin can reach a price point and reuse capability in line with the claims for BFR then we space age nao.
Brandon Brown
You know you're a rich piece of shit when poorer rich people are doing more to help humanity do cool stuff than yourself.
Thanks
Lucas Davis
You might want to get an update on your 1995 level knowledge
>rockets going up and coming back down
Oh wow, that's very useful to know. So what about the practicalities of actually engineering an entire planetary biome that is suitable for permanent human habitation?
By the time all the engineering has been worked out on how to make this a sustainable idea, there will equally be inroads into re-engineering the human body. We're talking, what, a solid century until we will be looking at an Earth non-reliant Martian colony, with the ability to mine and fabricate sufficient resources to sustain human technological and population growth on that planet? What is the impact of low gravity on human pregnancy, btw? Oh right, I guess Elon will just work out the immense complexities of this problem much easier than any transhuman engineering problems.
How far into understanding the human brain do you think we'll be by then? Nanomachines will be a practical reality at that point. Humans will be able to move away from being meat brains to something electronic.
The problem with spacetards is that they don't realise that not only do you have to figure out all of the space engineering problems, but you will ALSO need to have a full understanding of human biology to a transhuman level because without it, we will not create a sustainable human colony out in Mars.
Hence, it's a big fucking waste of time and money that is totally premature and will suffer road blocks faster than transhumanism will.
No, really, we haven't meaningfully improved in those areas since your arbitrary date of 1995. The only "futuristic" thing that's begun to show any promise in recent years is CRISPR-Cas9. On anything resembling nanotechnology, the best we've got is equivalent to an aeolipile.
Samuel Reed
By the way, do you understand the difference between an engineering problem and a lack of basic research? Issues in space colonization are engineering problems-- things that we understand well enough to develop solutions for, right now. Transhumanistic technology is at the stage where we still don't even know where to begin. We don't even know enough about the nature of the problems to even think about engineering solutions.
Michael Baker
So who will be the first woman to volunteer to give birth to a deformed space baby, then?
This is just an engineering problem, right? That's the problem with Elon Musk and his legions of turbo autist followers like you - everything is just an engineering problem and doesn't involve massive social complexity.
In order to resolve that problem, you're going to need transhumanist level knowledge. This is why space research is premature. You will need to solve the problems of the limitations of biology before getting to have your futuristic childish wet dream of space domes on Mars.
Carter Hall
Why is the assumption that 0.38g is not conducive for pregnancy when there is no data available? For all we know a baby could gestate fine at 0.1g. I'm sure you will find volunteers for that in return for a ticket to Mars.
Worst case scenario where low g is unnaceptable over long periods you can create bowl habitats by pressurising a container, fill with water and spin a bowl shaped habitat inside to simulate whatever g you need. That sounds way more realistic and doable with modern techniques than fucking nanomachines are you joking?
Matthew Myers
Jaded billionaires are best billionaires. They see past the bullshit and put money on things that the retards don't want because they have this weird fucked up morality. They think of humanitarianism as this short term thing but they don't ever think about their line of descent or anyone else's for that matter. They go like "well, I guess I'll be dead by 2070, so whatever." You bring families that are willing to have 7 or 10 children in conditions where they hardly can survive, they make you responsible, you fix their situation and in 50 years there's still stupid families doing the same exact thing, dragging everyone down to the bottom.
Jayden Perez
to be fair going to Mars doesn't benefit humanity at all the idea that we will mine resources from mars is insain and even if we did it wouldn't help humanity it would just make some random people rich and maybe not even that because to make it efficient would take hundreds of years.
space has always been about propaganda if you don't think Musk is funding spaceX to help Tesla marketing your a idiot. he wants to sell cars and earn mad buck even the boring company stuff is also PR for tesla.
sure 60mil a rocket is a expensive promotional campaign for Tesla but its his true intention.
Luke Morales
>Worst case scenario where low g is unnaceptable over long periods you can create bowl habitats by pressurising a container, fill with water and spin a bowl shaped habitat inside to simulate whatever g you need. That sounds way more realistic and doable with modern techniques than fucking nanomachines are you joking?
The worst case scenario you outline is the most reductive and ludicrously expensive, over-engineered solution to the problem.
How do you think you're going to have all of this amazing machinery that is impervious to the highly abrasive Martian dust without nanotech?
Look at Berger's work on encoding human memory digitally. We're closer to solving these problems than you think, whereas Mars is an environment that is controlled by the laws of physics much more than our ability to work at the nanoscale.
In the case of Gates it was never about benefiting humanity, it was covering his ass. He only began humanitarian endeavors after the antitrust suit.
Aaron Davis
He only owns like 1% of Microsoft now so he doesn’t have to care anymore really. Yet he still donates billions to feeding niggers and has promised to give away 99% of his wealth before his death
Angel Gutierrez
>Trying to colonise Mars in 2500 will look as quaint and embarrassing as the Victorians vision of future technology Absolutely this.
Also, interstellar travel is completely infeasible, so you can toss those dreams out as well. The more physics you know, the more depressed you get. That's life (t. physics PhD)
Christopher Thompson
We’ll at least have a permanent presence on Mars though, maybe in the form of a research station like the ones in the Antarctic.
Also who knows about interstellar travel. Sure, from what we know now it’s not realistic, and even achieving high enough velocities to get decent time dilation would require too much energy and also make it impossible to slow down again. Still, wouldn’t be the first time we manage to do something we thought to be against the laws of nature.
Chase Russell
Go larp somewhere else. We get it, you're so cool, and contrarian, and you're WAY smarter than all those dumb rocket engineers. For fuck's sake. Go do your homework, or whatever else it is that you’re supposed to be doing right now.
Dominic Williams
so, have ya dated any girls yet user
Oliver Anderson
privatization will get us to space, not the government the gov creates nothing of value, it just creates opportunity, like war, but its even shit at that. If company's were given full reign over their own regulation we'd be accelerating into the future at crazy rates. This is, after all, the only logical conclusion to space exploration. When land and resources are infinite you will have company just move out beyond their jurisdiction and gain enough power to become psudeo states before the gov can catch up. Ancap is the politics of the future and I will never see it come to fruition.
Christian Davis
>So who will be the first woman to volunteer to give birth to a deformed space baby, then? Uh, there really is no shortage of volunteers, even for that.
>space travel >billionaires ride rockets to nearby asteroids and mine them for resources >billionaires become trillionaires and quadrillionaires This shit scares the hell out of me tbqh
>>billionaires ride rockets to nearby asteroids and mine them for resources no retard, they ship private satellites to orbits
Christian Flores
They can only get as rich as people can pay them, which means that in order to become the quadrillionaires the economy would have to grow similarly, which wouldn’t be a bad thing. Still, it’s likely that some of the first trillionaires will make their money in space
Luke Martinez
>because governments are unwilling to do this now days. Fuck off, don't expect me to pay for shit that doesn't benefit me. You're more than welcome to cut a check to the government yourself (but of course you won't).
if it's privately funded who cares, let them waste their money
Grayson Diaz
Yes, feeding niggers, poor negotiation of pharmaceuticals prices by the government, inefficient construction of infrastructure etc. In 500 years noone will give a shit about whether we spent a little more or less on welfare, what will matter is what we achieved in science & tech, what we built and how our societies changed during these times
Julian King
>In 500 years nobody cares, we'll all be dead
Dominic Lopez
>launching millionaire fuckboys into orbit >progress in science and technology
