/pcbg/ - PC Building General

I've been following GPU prices for about 6 months now and I managed to pick up a new RX 580 8GB for $270 on newegg last night right before going to bed. I was going to link it this morning in the new thread because it was such a good deal but now the same card is listed as $399. How the fuck does this happen?

do you suppose the added height and those fucking huge 8mm would make up for the fact it's only 53.4mm wide?

>Node 202
way too big. i don't need any of that GPU/PSU space, so it could be 3 or 4 times smaller than this. thanks anyway i guess.

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They all get sold out, and if supply is low price is high
I got no clue. The pipes are fuckhuge but I feel like that would be disproportionate unless you put 2 fans on there
Take a look around this page then
pcpartpicker.com/products/case/#t=11

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Maybe the FTZ01B?

that's in no way different to the 202 as far as my needs are concerned. both are way too big.

Ideally what I want is the PT13B (pic related), but my motherboard isn't "thin" ITX, so i'm not sure if it's an option. if it's a matter of making more space for I/O panel, then i'd do it, but are there any other differences between standard ITX and "thin" ITX?

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They use SODIMM and have things in required locations
intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/product-specifications/thin-mini-itx-based-pc-system-design-guide-rev-1-2.pdf

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perhaps i wasn't clear enough but all i wanted to know was whether I can put a standard ITX board inside the PT13B, if I just made more space for the I/O panel...

...nevermind all that though because i found this badboy on pcpartpicker. seems perfect.

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Kek OP is an unironical (like actual) faggot.

He's my gf(male) for real.

The answer is a completely solid "probably not" since mITX I/O and VRM heatsinks are positioned too high for thin mITX spec to fit without modding half the case
Nothing gay about liking cute boys

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Source off that comic

>comic

If i want to play non fps games like gta v should i buy a 75hz ips or 144hz tn monitor? Is the extra hz noticeable in these type of games?

twitter.com/paxiti/status/999303992516624385?s=19
Also the filename is from Danbooru so next time you can use iqdb or SauceNAO to find it
Yes it's still much smoother if your hardware can run it
Even 75 vs 100 can be noticable

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Threadly reminder to ignore Vega shills.

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If I don't care about having 6 more USB 3.0 slots or a preattached I/O is there a performance reason to get the high end motherboards for Z370 or X470?

This faggot trap spammer has ruined the thread

Z370- XMP (and OC if you have a -K processor)
X470- native StoreMI (although gimped), SLI (CrossFire is on B350 too)
Is it possible to ruin bar graph/wojak spam general?

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I mean comparing the Gaming 5/Ultra to Gaming 7 (for example). Not x470 vs B350. I know the Gaming 7 has heatsinks/vrms that cover way more than Ryzen 2000 can put out for example, but I don't know if that'll actually positively affect performance compared to the lower end x470s.

His posts are more useful than your posts will ever be, vermin.

Take your fag shit back to or
Fag enabler

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Oh!
Lower-end generally lacks debug features (very useful if you don't POST), memory OC features (such as BCLK or a retrain button), have worse VRMs, and ironically less cooling on top of those.
If you invest in a premium chipset I would at the very minimum suggest debug LEDs and VRMs that are either efficient enough to run cool or have heatsinks that aren't flat bricks

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What is the smallest ITX case I can get for a long GPU (around 300mm), 280mm/120mm AIO watercooler, Bonus for regular ATX PSU mounting options, one 3.5" HDD space and ability to be easily portable (fit in a suitcase luggage).

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IPS has the best colours, as low as 5ms response now and can go up to 165hz even on ultrawide IPS monitors.

TN is the fastest with 1ms but that's literally it's only advantage (assuming we're talking about tech exclusively here and not price). It is inferior to IPS in every other way from viewing angles to colour reproduction etc. Maybe 240hz is an advantage to some people but I actually haven't seen anyway care for 240hz as 144hz/165hz is still way more popular.

VA is just objectively bad in both cases. It's slower than both IPS and TN I'm pixel transitions which causes massive ghosting and break up trailing even in the latest cutting edge HDR VA panels. It can only be used realistically up to 100hz despite monitors supporting 144hz but as mentioned before the pixel transition times can't keep up with 144hz so you get insane blurring in motion almost like hardware motion blur. Colours are inferior to IPS.

Reposting from last thread

Either of these probably
pcpartpicker.com/product/8238TW/thermaltake-case-ca1d600s1wn00
pcpartpicker.com/product/nTJkcf/phanteks-case-phes215psrd
It's a bit unfair to judge tech based on the best it can possibly be
A great TN or VA is probably better overall than a subpar IPS

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Yeah I know but the original question was relating to gaming monitors and he wanted to know the difference in that scenario. Sure, if you're not looking for a gaming oriented high refresh monitor but a cheap every day one for browsing and MS office then almost probably a cheap $150 TN will be better than an equivalent priced IPS with the IPS panel lacking in features or have like 8ms response time or just straight up bad QC like IPS glow problems. For gaming though, IPS is best right now without a doubt because they offer basically everything that a TN offers but does it better aside from response time. But then again you see people recommending VA over IPS because VA is normally advertised with 4m/s g2g response so people think this is slightly better for gaming however if you did research you'd find the pixel response times of VA can be over 20ms even the best ones such as the Samsung and AOC panels despite being advertised as 1-4ms.

i want a cheap gpu to play sub 1080p on a 144 hz monitor
which

>LG 24MP59G-P
I have it, don't buy it if you want good colors because light blues and oranges have a vertical scanline effect which completley kills the monitor for me. Some websites say it's 1ms and others say it's 5ms, I don't play enough fast twitchy games to say what it feels like.

Can someone help with a build for a PC? Uses will be almost strictly gayming and budget is ~$2000.

A friend recommended MSI Desktop Computer Infinite X 8RG-039US Intel Core i7 8th Gen 8700 from newegg for about $1600. Is good?

Looking at motherboards right now, specifically the ASUS TUF X470-Plus, if the specs say

>1 x PCI Express 3.0/2.0 x16 slot (max.@x16 mode)
>1 x PCI Express 3.0/2.0 x16 slot (max.@x8 mode)

does that mean either one can be used as the x16 mode or is only the pcie slot on top capable of it?

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m.newegg.com/products/0JC-0004-004W7?Keyword=E2417h

Not a subpar IPS. Probably a Samsung PLS.

Replaced a u2312hm due to a busted power supply and is acually good as said u2312hm from 2012. Granted, some RGB calibration was necessary.

U2312HM will be repaired.

Gtx 1060

check the OP, specifically logicalincrements, you should not be purchasing anything with an 8700 as it cannot be overclocked, look for something with an 8700k or 2700x(really any of the Ryzens will do, as they are not cockblocked from overclocking by AMD) if you want overclocking

Try out the LianLi PC-Q25, people have put AIO coolers in that before. Alternatively the TU200 or if you really need space the Thermaltake V21.
None of these (except maybe the Q25) will comfortably fit in a suitcase.
If that's really important then you need to go smaller, like the Fractal Node series and drop the 3.5 HDD.

Prebuilts cheap put on RAM/PSU/motherboard and the only Intel chip worth buying is the 8700K
That board (4+2 VRM) sucks
Anyway, second slot is only capable of x8 or lower

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Not really that cheap, especially with 6GB
I'd wait for the next gen to be released
They can't be selling old overpriced gpus forever

What you recommend?
m.newegg.com/products/N82E16883102476
This or something?

So i had a power surge today while gayming(didn't notice a storm was approaching) and i saw a flash from my PSU but my PC didn't shutdown nor was there any burnt smell or smoke coming from it, i've checked voltages and stressed out my PC with games/stress tests and all looks fine except for a slight coil whine from the PSU(witch might have always been there).

Now before i go buying a new one do you guys think this one will be fine or am i fucked in the long run? Also what are some good brands/models?

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you can probably find better prices and quality of internals if you built it yourself, just use PCpartpicker and watch the OP video of Rose building a PC

I would replace the fan at least if theres coil whine

This is PC BUILDING general
Of course we recommend custom
Safest option is to buy a new one
G3 and FOCUS plus units are good

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>tfw theres only one person giving advice itt and hes a weeb
Guess im going to reddit

>we recommend custom
Fair enough, but I'm quite lazy

Stay there
Opening the packages is the hardest part desu

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Only if they are competent enough.

Cheap prebuilts have decent value, but mid range and high range systems go for an extra $200-500 prebuilt tax and thats enough to motivate away laziness.

Also this shit is like lego for adults with brains, who pays extra to avoid hours of fun?

>muh ashes of the benchmark tweaked timings meme ram x470 mobo watercooled oc bclk blah blah blah blah blah

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the vega shill will turn up soon

>muh ashes don't count but 640x480 skyrim is a great benchmark 100/10

i want to fuck marisa in the ass

Hardware unboxed. The one who made the graph i replied, to calls it ashes of the benchmark because even he knows its a shit game and only used for benchmarks

It's actually a pretty good game.
I enjoyed it at least.

But I enjoyed Sins of a Solar Empire too.

I can't even tell what you guys are trying to say anymore
That's gay desu

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4.2 GHz can be done on AMDs shittiest stock cooler, stop being mad

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>Certian games don't count because I don't like them

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no it can't and there are videos proving this. stop spreading misinformation like this. you're as bad as the vega shill if you do that.

youtube.com/watch?v=5kGKkOWljAU

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> It can't overclock because I don't like being proven wrong

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>overwatch
>20% cpu utilization

how about an application which will mirror a demanding game as we know games like bf1 ca fully utilize 6 cores now. this is only at 4.0 ghz too. 4.2 would be a housefire.

>If you have a Ryzen 5 2600 or any other AMD CPU that comes bundled with the Wraith Stealth you’ll ideally want to upgrade the cooler for better thermal performance, especially if you plan on overclocking.

he's lying though right?

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Intel shill alert

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You are a literal dumbass and shill who cherrypicks convenient points that have nothing to do with ryzen in gaming, blender is not gaming.

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and you said this the last time 10 people corrected you on your claim a wraith stealth can handle a 4.2 ghz OC to the 2600. we're all shills for giving accurate information right? i'm sure you think an 8700k at 5ghz can also be done on a stock cooler as well right? this is how retarded your argument is.

and for your information i own a 2600. i told you this last time. but please, go on and explain how hardware unboxed and i are both shills for saying the stealth is worthless for overclocking.

Blender GOTY 2018 11/10 t. IGN

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youtu.be/UwPXKhRdfuw

it's because of people like you why amd is such an avoided company. you just lie and lie all the time to get a retarded agenda across and people can see through it like glass. /pcbg/ is not a fanboy thread it's supposed to give advice to people not provide them with blatant misinformation.

but as i said, go on and explain how hardware unboxed and i are both shills for saying the stealth is worthless for overclocking.

I guess you're technically correct but that's the opposite of advisable since you would be VERY close to thermal shutdown even with a light load

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>10 people
You samefagging is not 10 people, blender isn't a game.

>I own a 2600
I thought you owned a 1600, nice "story" you have there you don't own either

Oh look its the outlier he discused. You act like people are as dumb as you and havent watched the video

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If it's ok when Intel does it then it's ok when AMD does it, make your enemy play by their own rules.

>calls people samefag
>calls people telling him their different rigs all liars because on one person can own ryzen and it has to be the guy with a 1600

ah so you are clinically retarded. my condolences

>Shit ram
>No overclock
Nice benchmark now show what happens when you spend $40 more for better ram

who has ever claimed intel can be overclocked on a stock cooler? are you retarded? historically the stock cooler has been a laughing point for intel. not a single person has said it's good at all except for maybe locked cpu since it's just about good enough for boost clocks

You are a very obvious samefag deadset on ruining pcbg just fuck off no one here likes you

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i'm not even that guy but you're saying telling the truth about thermal performance is ruining something and thus telling a lie is the right way? how mentally challenged are you?

Intel can't do shit on stock but burst into flames.

>When a low end Intel CPU has more power consumption than a AMD flagship
Just lmao you will defend this shit

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>I'm not that guy I just type like him and have the exact same grammar and spelling errors.
Sure sweety, sure

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what the fuck are you talking about? why do you keep deflecting from the point at hand?
i'll reiterate:

I OWN A 2600

is that clear enough for you to read? ok now we can get back to the point of you claiming a 2600 can do 4.2 on all cores on a wraith stealth. you can't even back up your claims. please neck yourself. a console like the ps4 is more suited for mentally challenged kids like you.

it's all a lie amirite? are you going to answer the question now? how is lying benefiting and telling the truth ruining. simple question. if you fail to answer this question we will all see how mentally handicapped you really are.

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>I own an AMD CPU I'm just like you
We have been over this tardmode no one here believes you

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Step up that GIMP skill I could do it better and faster

Just be glad you don't own trash tier AMD GPU. They're all housefires with this same story of more power for less performance. I wish RTG would just die already and Samsung or someone bought them up.

>sweety
Haha you upset him now

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My 290x is both cooler and more reliable than my 4770k, keep talking out your ass I don't own a ryzen cpu.

>Him
Talking in 3rd person are we now?

please tell me how this is relevant at all? it doesn't even matter what cpu anyone owns but the fact still stands that a wraith stealth can't do 4.2 on all cores with a 2600. now run back to redd*t

>guys look at this benchmark of product 1 being faster and more power efficient than product 2!
>proceeds to own a 290x housefire which is a bigger housefire than all the products it competed against such as the 980

I bet you're going to say power doesn't matter next. You people are too easy to catch out.

>Intel is le based four chang cpu

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Guys I have a GA-F2A88X-UP4 board. If the light highlighted in pic related doesn't light up when you power the board, is the board dead?

The case fans, cpu fan, psu all come on, but the system doesn't beep, nor does that light come on.

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>980
290x is faster and more than a full year older, it competed with the 780/780ti newfag

So myself and about 8-9 of my friends are going to build identical PCs because if we find a good and affordable gaming config it will be fine for all of us.

How is a gtx 1070 + 8400 + 8gb ddr4 + 250gb ssd + 1tb hdd? Looks reasonable at around $800 from what I've seen.