/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>Assemble a part list
pcpartpicker.com/
>Learn how to build a PC (You can find more detailed videos on YouTube)
youtube.com/watch?v=69WFt6_dF8g
>How to install Win7 on new CPUs
pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1

If you want help
>State the budget & CURRENCY for your build
>List your uses - e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g. photo editing, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

Overclocking
>Use Precision Boost 2 offsets to overclock Ryzen 2000X series!
>Delid i5/i7 8000K series

CPUs
>R3 2200G - Bare minimum gaming (dGPU optional)
>R5 2400G - Consider IF closer to 2200G price
>R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs
>i7-8700K - Best for gaming, but most expensive when factoring in delid, high end cooler, etc.
>R7 2700/X - Best high-end mixed usage on a non-HEDT platform
>Threadripper/Used Xeon - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing

Motherboards
>Don't buy A320 (All Ryzen is unlocked)
>Only Z300 series Intel boards can utilize fast memory

RAM
>8GB - Enough for most gaming use
>16GB - Standard for heavy use
>32GB - Too much for most users
>Current CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal

Graphics cards
>MSRP of standard 1080p cards: 1050Ti, 140USD; 1060 6GB, $230; RX 560, $115; RX 570 4GB, $170; RX 580 8GB, $220+
1080p
>GTX 1050Ti, 1060 3/6GB, or RX 570/580; currently overpriced
>GTX 1070/Vega 56 if you're looking for very high (100+) fps & you have a CPU + monitor to match
1440p
>GTX 1070/Ti, 1080, or Vega 56/64; currently overpriced
>GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) fps & you have a CPU + monitor to match
2160p
>GTX 1080Ti

Storage
>Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD
>2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB
>M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard

Monitors
>2k is not 1440p
>Always consider FreeSync with AMD cards
>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING

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reposting because alive thread
does memory support between two different boards matter if you're plugging in timing values manually rather than using presets? like using The Stilt's timing sets or whatever?

rude

>it doesn't make sense to fuck yourself now when you could get better deals later
This is also good advice.

There are better GPUs now, but the price:performance isn't worth it at these prices.
Same applies to Only somewhat.
Memory controller is on the CPU, but voltage regulation is on the board itself.
So less ripple from your board's power delivery will slightly increase memory compatibility and how tight you can get timings. As does Ryzen X CPUs tendency to have better memory controllers.

But you don't need to overthink it too much. A 2600X or 2700X should get Stilt timings on b-die on like any not-complete-shit board.

Would a CPU cooler with a length of 155mm across have any clearance issued with a GPU that has a backplate?

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thanks
i'm thinking of getting some team dark b-die and a crosshair vi x370, but this specific set of memory isn't on the newest QVL, so i guess since it's a good board it should work fine?

I didn't realize dark has b-die. What's the model?
I thought they were all Hynix or Micron.

I don't think any CPU cooler exists which has GPU clearence issues, even with a backplate. If there is, I'd like to know about it.

Delid

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I was looking at the True Spirit 140 Power, one pic I found showed it practically on top of a GPU without a backplate, but I literally just found pic related and it seems to not be a problem with an ATX motherboard

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>48% higher FPS in prey
jeez.

I wonder how much worse the comparison looks for the 8400 if you compare 2600X with BCLK overclock instead of the old fashioned overclock.

Oh huh. Yeah that certainly seems like it'd block the first slot. Though most motherboards put the x16 in the second slot position, and m.2 or x1 above it.

Is the 580 worth it over the 570 if you are doing mostly 1080p gaming at high/max settings

>wants to post pic of my build to get debugging help
>image limit reached because some mentally ill faggot spam his drawn chink gayporn

Degenerate trannies/onionsboy deserve the rope

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This. We really should cut image posting to only relevant stuff (Graphics, builds,Comparisons, etc)

Reminder to ignore the AMD shill who claims power consumption is a huge deal when comparing Intel to AMD yet it doesn't matter when it's vega compared to Pascal.

General rule:
Ryzen > coffee lake (overall)
Pascal >>>> Vega (in every single way from pricing to power consumption to software features)

This is the truly unbiased and objective standing as supported by literally every tech YouTuber under the sun including the AMD spokesman himself AdoredTV. If anyone tells you otherwise it's the same shill who has been ruining these threads for weeks now.

That's the best reason to get a 580
I don't think we've hit image limit in recent times, have we? And in the last 10 threads I don't recall us getting past 100.

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Does x370 support the same zen+ feature set as x470?

Nothing wrong with AMD gpus

No

They're inferior to Nvidia in every way right now especially the Vega series. The 580 might be alright if you can find it for $50 cheaper than the 1060 as was the case a year and a half ago but if they're equal pricing or if the 580 is more then there's no reason to get it over the cooler, more power efficient 1060.

and what is that zen+ feature i dont know about?

Vega prices keep going down. Good stuff

It doesn't matter. Your avatarfagging is harmful to the topic of this general and you should get aids if you haven't gotten it yet and die.

Hey you piece of shit, watch your mouth when talking about my girlfriend

precision boost overdrive

Enjoy your soÿlent aids.

aids isnt lethal tho

Where? Still colosally overpriced everywhere I've checked.

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He contributes in these threads more than you'll ever contribute to anything in your pathetic life. Get the fuck out.

Heyho frens.
I want a PC for playing gaymes.
I only need the Computer.
Budget: 750€

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The middle men wont let it fall to MSRP, they'll overcharge for as long as possible

Hello fren, stop being a faggot and check the OP, go to logicalincrements and PCpartpicker, build it, then ask us where to find better value

Just got a 10603gb single fan. It was either this or 1050ti4gb.

Hopefully can play some games ok. I want to play with you guys someday.

Think it was Caseking, there was Vega 64s going slightly over 600€.

yes true but one can hope. my RX 480 isn't cutting it for 1440p unfortunately

Ok fren, see you then!

Certainly not natively but a lot of it is software so I think they can patch in XFR2 and the like with a UEFI update
Should work great for 1080p but may have to drop settings in VRAM intensive games

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de.pcpartpicker.com/list/kTyz6s

if you can squeeze an extra 40-50 euro then this is an amazing gaming build and will last a long time. the processor will last another 5 years at least and there is potential for upgrading ram there too to upto 32gb if you ever want it (which i doubt, but its still there). the gtx 1060 is currently the most popular gpu in the world and it runs 1080p60 easily. you can save some money by going for a cheaper case or getting a microATX motherboard.

I think you're mad because the fag likes AMD

>one stick of 8GB ram
well what? dual-channeling isnt a thing anymore? am i missing something?

considerably cheaper than 2x4gb so it's the more budget oriented choice. he will without a doubt upgrade to 16gb ram so he'll get dual channel with that but as of right now it's a necessary compromise.

well, 2x4gb of dual channel are still better than one stick of 8GB right?
and if he wanted to upgrade in the future he could buy another 2x4gb

pcpartpicker.com/list/K4cKXP

Thoughts on this? I really like quiet systems and would be willing to spend more to make it quieter. Is this good enough to max out most stuff at 60+ FPS at 1080p?

i haven't seen anything to suggest it matters in games but i think it does matter for production tasks which are ram heavy.
also that suggestion is stupid because if he opts for 2x4gb in his 750 euro budget he would be massively over budget (which he already is) and he would have to downgrade the processor or the graphics card which a straight no-no.

>Is this good enough to max out most stuff at 60+ FPS at 1080p?
all but the most demanding of games.

Is this solid for the price? Should I go with a 570 instead?

The problem with that is you are limited to 16GB of total memory which is fine for most people now but if you use the AM4 platform for the next 5-10 years you may want to have 24 or 32GB
It's alright but a better SSD and waiting for B450 would make things nicer
Also, why are you spending $335 on a card when they go down to $290 or you could get a 580 8GB to use your monitor's FreeSync for $305?

yeah it's solid. that msi cooler is really, really quiet. a friend of mine has the 970 model in a nzxt h440 and you can't even hear it at all even when under 100% load in a game. a 1060 is the right choice for a silent build as it will run way cooler than even a 570 as it uses less power.

>i haven't seen anything to suggest it matters in games
youtube.com/watch?v=58PboimKOwA
its only one game but proves dual channel works at least there

sure, but it's still not a worthwhile compromise downgrading the cpu and gpu for dual channel ram when it's an easy upgrade later on down the line.
the same goes for an ssd.

A cheap 580 and a morpheus would be close in price to that specific 1060 and cooler/quieter
superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=CA-MOPUSII
Too bad the 10% sitewide sale ended a couple days ago

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I saw someone saying that 1160 will be as powerful as a 1080 and will cost 250. Is that what happened with the previous gen cards?

I have very little space on my desk and was wondering if I should place my PC on the floor (tile) or keep it up on my desk? My floor gets pretty dusty at times but my pc’s current place on my desk assures it can tip but not completely fall over.

Is there a $500 poor man build recommended by Jow Forums

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it's a logical prediction and most likely correct. the 1060 was equivalent to the 980 last gen.

ryzen apu 2200g

My motherboard died today and I was playing with the thought of upgrading my whole pc anyways, so any advice what to get?

What I have left is:

i5 3350P (3,1GHz, Sockel 1155, 6MB Cache)
GTX 960 (4GB)
2x 4GB DDR3 Ram
Powersupply: BeQuiet! PowerZone 750W 80+Bronze BN211
and a SSD and HDD.

I think the best thing would be to just get a new Motherboard, CPU and RAM. Any suggestions for that?

I use it mostly for gaming and some coding for university, but I'm fine with going a bit over the top so I don't have to think about upgrading for the next couple years.
Budget isn't a big problem, as long as it is reasonable for what I get.

Only an estimation
We all know what NVIDIA does when there isn't much competition
Floor is fine
You wouldn't be able to do a video card without a lot of compromise, so buy one once you can save up $200 or so
pcpartpicker.com/list/RCfBLJ
The best value in my opinion would be the 2600X and 16GB 2933MHz memory with either one of the better B350s or a cheaper X470

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Not entirely.
At 1080p you shouldn't be using the highest texture setting in newer games since that setting is made for 1440p or 4k. And that's the main consumer of VRAM.

RX570 4GB tends to be all you need for 1080p on settings between high and maxed. I've seen just about no examples of this not being the case.
youtube.com/watch?v=Z-SmvMykfR4 Digital Foundry did a really good review on it.
The argument against it is that more VRAM will give better "future proofing". But at the point that games are using 6+ GB, the compute performance over the RX580 might not be quite enough and money could be better saved toward upgrading your GPU sooner rather than later in the future.
4GB of VRAM should be enough for a while so long as you don't autistically have to max texture quality.

Because 1070Ti and Vega56 have virtually identical power consumption, you dumb shill.
The ONLY difference is that AMD lets you set a higher power limit and overclock the Vega56 to 1080 performance while the 1070Ti is locked down lower. Stock vs stock they are the same.

Depends on board.
Most ASUS boards, at least the higher end ones like b350-f Strix, got a BIOS update for the new Precision Boost features.


user is just giving bad advice. Aegis RAM is AWFUL and it's only single channel.
And a fucking single fan 1060 when you can get an RX580 8GB for


>pcpartpicker.com/list/K4cKXP
Why spend $335 on a 1060 6gb? Especially when going for a 144hz freesync monitor.
The other part choices are very good, though.
That model is definitely better than the cheap ass ARMOR, Dual, G1, etc models... but that's a lot of money for a 1080p card.

That SSD is actually quite good.
On par with the usual MX500, WD Blue, and SU900 recommendations.

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100w extra as your picture shows is not "virtually identical". that could be the difference between going from a 550w psu to spending an extra $20-30 in a 650w psu.

and we all know you're a shill you don't need to try and mask it. there isn't a single publication or youtuber who recommends vega for gaming over it's competitors. not even adoredtv who basically hates anything that isn't produced by amd. you have no substance to your arguments and you're always on full damage control. the vega series is shit and can't even beat or barely beat a 4 year old rebrand arch. deal with it.

>That SSD is actually quite good.
The Source lineup is Mushkins's lowest-quality SSD family so you can definitely do better even in the same brand

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Meant to say you can get an RX580 for not much more, but apparently not. Euro prices have greater discrepancy.

You think 184.7w is 100w more than 184.6w? Please leave the board if you're this retarded.

>214 vs 310

you think this isn't nearly 100w more? please leave the board if you're this retarded.

>b-b-but it doesn't count
well there goes your "you can OC it to match a 1080!" argument. off yourself shill. i have't even seen the hardest core amd fans defend vega so you're either literally paid to shill or have some insane buyers remorse about it that you spend more time here trying to defend it than playing actual fucking games.

>citing the 22% PL vs 50%
You can't be this dumb. You must be trolling and baiting.
No one is so fucking stupid that they don't understand that Pascal have locked down low power limits that stop you from overclocking them much.

You have to actually be, legally, mentally disabled and on disability if you really can't read those graphs.

>waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah why are you comparing the OC statistics!
>it's not like i just said 2 posts ago "set a higher power limit and overclock the Vega56 to 1080 performance"

this is you right now. everybody is laughing at you. yesterday you didn't even understand the affect of GPU performance on vram utilization and the day before that you didn't even know a 290 and 390 have the same bus width. off yourself paid shill.

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Why should it have 1070ti power consumption when it's overclocked to 1080 performance and cheaper?

You are such an unbearably stupid shill. You really have no argument.
Like you're trying to fucking say a Vega56 should have the power consumption of a 1070Ti while it's OC'd to the performance level of a 1080. LMAO. That's the expectations you've set on AMD because you're an unabashed shill.
When AMD wins, and is clearly better, you say it's not good enough despite it being better than the alternatives you shill for. Fucking amazing.

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>that pic
>even a 1080 ti uses less power at stock than an OC 56 which can barely match a 1080
>1080 ti is still 30% faster

jesus christ thanks for that pic. i can use this as a reference now to show how fucking garbage the 56 really is.

>Why should it have 1070ti power consumption when it's overclocked to 1080 performance and cheaper?
a 1070 ti can also be OC to 1080 performance and is cheaper. clutching at straws and BTFO yet again. keep going though, this is funny. you've failed to convince anyone vega is good for the 5th day running.

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LOL now you're calling Tom's Hardware a liar.
And cherry picking games.
Fucking amazing, the levels you stoop to.

>a 1070 ti can also be OC to 1080 performance
No it can't. It's a cut down 1080. That's literally impossible, you dumb shill.
You're comparing OC vs stock. Holy shit. How manipulative and stupid can you be?

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>LOL now you're calling Tom's Hardware a liar.
where? show me where i called them a liar. i was agreeing with them because it's a picture of a 1080 TI power consumption and it comprehensively shows even at stock the 1080 ti uses less power than an OC 56 which can barely match a 1080 and is also 30% faster whilst using less power.

>And cherry picking games.
one of the biggest games in the world is cherry picking? what's not cherry picking to you shills? only games which show amd to be ahead? even in BF1 which is an AMD optimized title the 1070 ti is faster both at stock AND when OC compared to the 56. the 56 can barely even match the 1080 when fully OC.

>No it can't. It's a cut down 1080. That's literally impossible, you dumb shill.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
oh wait, he's serious. holy fucking shit you don't have the slightest idea about GPU do you? this takes the cake for being the most retarded comment i've seen on /pcbg/ in 5 years and even the whole "390 has a smaller bus and uses compression which makes it lose performance" garbage wasn't as bad as this.

>You're comparing OC vs stock.
and you say other people can't read graphs

BTFO yet again. i should start tallying this shit. it's too easy.

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and the 1080 ti is also 30% faster whilst using less power*

Is there any benefit to getting the 6GB 1060 vs the 3GB one? Is one card much better than the other? Sry for silly question, am scrub at this stuff

The 6GB card has more CUDA units and double the VRAM to work with
Generally if you can afford it, it's better

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1060 3gb has less vram (obviously) but also has a slightly cut down GPU which will make it about 5% slower in games compared to the 6gb. this can easily be accounted for with an OC though so it's no biggie if moneys an issue.

Anyone has an APU build?

Want to build a couple of 2200G but I had bad experiences with AMD last gen, bsods because of drivers. Ended up buying pci gpus to fix that.

>Mass Effect Andromeda is one of the best games in the world
aahahahahahahaha

Okay this guy has obviously been baiting from the start. I'll stop replying.

Uhhh.. the fact that lots of games now days use over 3GB?
And that the 3GB is a cut down die and Nvidia is trying to trick people into thinking it's the same card?

No one should buy a 3GB 1060.
You should get the 1060 6GB, and only if it's significantly cheaper than a RX580 or not much more than an RX570 (basically, if you're in Europe).
If you can't afford the RX570 4GB, or 1060 6GB, you should be looking at an RX560, 1050, or 1050Ti instead.

>getting absolutely blown the fuck out this hard he's running away
>he's also dyslexic and reads "biggest" as "best"

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don't worry i'm happy with my easy win

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Based

Thanks for the replies guys. Can someone explain to me what CUDA units are? I’ve heard the term CUDA cores before, are they the same thing?

ME:Andromeda was such a big flop that EA canceled plans to make and sell DLC.

Also, no one who reads those posts are going to think you won anything by being an obvious troll.

>are they the same thing
yes

so it doesn't count because a game that sells tens of millions only sold millions and therefore it's not even as relevant as ashes of the singularity right?

>troll
if you think solid fact after fact and benchmark after benchmark is trolling then you're the biggest one here because you haven't provided a single bit of information proving vega is worth buying and that every single tech publication and youtuber is wrong. whatever makes you sleep at night i guess.

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Number of stream processors, basically.

Nvidia tries to make people think they're the same thing, so when people see benchmarks of "GTX 1060" they think the result is what the 3GB would get.
When really the 3GB model is so bad that many reviewers stopped testing it, just like how they prematurely stopped testing Kepler so soon after it came out.

There is a similar issue with some RX560s being cut down, with no indication in the name. Have to make sure you're getting the 1024 and not 864 or whatever stream processors one on those.

Quite a few people here have got them and I haven't heard of any issues
NVIDIA calls them that but they're far from being true processing cores

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>just buy vega goy

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>1070 for $350

I am considering pulling the trigger on this one. Thoughts? Also, post craigslist gold.

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considering that's basically $100 cheaper than the cheapest new 1070 and that 1060's are going for around $300 now it's a really good price. the cooler is meh though and blowers are usually loud and hot. it's probably a worthwhile compromise though desu

Assume US prices; Vega is $10 more than cheapest 1070 Ti
Again just because your country doesn't have the same prices as us doesn't mean that Vega isn't cheaper than it was

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$10 for less performance, higher power consumption for said less performance and extra heat is a no thank you for me.

>blower
eh your call

Well for $100 more you can get a 1070Ti which is considerably better. And new. For used and a blower I'd expect a better price.

I'm seeing 1070 Strix selling on ebay for

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>used exclusively for FAH

What a nice way of lying about using it for mining

pcpartpicker.com/list/ZL4fyX
How’d I do guys?

uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Yfs8TW/msi-geforce-gtx-1070-ti-8gb-duke-video-card-gtx-1070-ti-duke-8g

it's all a lie amirite? the price is even still the same on pcpp. neck yourself.

>Vega56 outperforms the 1070Ti on average
nope, already disproved

>And power consumption is roughly the same.
nope already disproved

>And it winds up being a lot cheaper because of how much cheaper Freesync monitors are than Gsync.
nope. i can use any 1070 ti on any non-gsync monitor unless you're claiming i can only get 144hz on gsync. you've made retarded claims like this before so it wouldn't be shocking

at least we can come to the same conclusion as everyone else out there which is the 1070 ti is the far better purchase and vega is another shit amd let down once again. it's nice to agree for once :)

looks fine

Not bad but I would rather have more RAM and SSD than your overly expensive CPU/cooler/board setup

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I was mostly leaning towards this one because in my area the following others were available

>1060 6GB, $250
>980 Ti, $400
>1070 OC Windforce, $475
>1070 Founders, $485

None of these seemed like particularly good deals.

For $150 more I could just get a new 1080, but I don't want to. I guess I could stretch to $400 though.

Didn't think about this possibility. Didn't specify how many 1070's he was selling. If it was more than 2 the alarm bells would be going off.

>I was mostly leaning towards this one because in my area the following others were available
well take the opportunity before it goes. i doubt you'd find a better deal than that

>uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Yfs8TW/msi-geforce-gtx-1070-ti-8gb-duke-video-card-gtx-1070-ti-duke-8g
Clicking the link shows £448.59.

pcpartspicker is known to be inaccurate. This comes up like every other thread.

>a bunch of lies
Oh okay

If you can get a 1060 6GB for $250 that's a decent model like the Strix, that's the best value of those listed by far.
I'd only do $350 for a 1070 non-ti if it were a decent model.

>For $150 more I could just get a new 1080, but I don't want to. I guess I could stretch to $400 though.
Not worth getting a 1080 when 1070Ti is close to 95% performance for $100 less. Or for that matter, you're best off getting Vega56 out of the 1070Ti, Vega56, and 1080.

You also shouldn't be concerned if it was used for mining. You can't even BIOS flash Pascal cards. Lots of Jow Forums are just salty children that are upset at how the world works.

no. clicking the link shows 372 pounds.

>everything is a lie because it doesn't agree with my narrative!
as i just predicted.

and holy shit you're literally recommended someone to buy a 1060 over a 1070 out of your sheer hate of nvidia. you're not even trying to hide you're a shill now. this guy will easily see through you

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It'd buy that then if it's really 372 pounds. That's a great deal. It doesn't show that for me, nor in the options list for styles, for whatever reason.

>implying shit
No it's a lie because it's a lie. Like how you tried to say 0.1w is 100watts.

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Thanks for the advice senpai.

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>shilling this same shit again and again

so all the objective benchmarks i just showed are all lies? we may as well call hardwareunboxed to tell them to shut up shop because a faggot on Jow Forums is calling their benchmarks lies and irrelevant.

>Like how you tried to say 0.1w is 100watts.
are you claiming you didn't say vega 56 can OC to a 1080 level? are you now claiming this power increase is irrelevant because no one will do it and thus completely negating your vega 56 OC argument? are you denying that statistical facts show the 1070 ti to be faster then the 56 on average whilst also being unanimously cheaper globally?

are techpowerup liars too now?

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