Microsoft hated open source for ages. Back in the 90s they tried to force their stuff upon everybody until they got BTFO by the law. >en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_litigation
And now they (literally) own Git. Originally made by Linus Torvalds to develop the Linux Kernel and the very place where the Linux Kernel is hosted - up until today. Coincidence? I think not.
While SystemD was already bad for Linux, this might eventually kill Linux, one way or another.
Thorvalds owns kernel.org so it's just a matter of time before NT has to be deprecated
YEAR OF THE LINUX DESKTOP CONFIRMED
Camden Moore
>and the very place where the Linux Kernel is hosted The Linux kernel was never hosted on kikehub you dumbfuck. it was only a mirror.
Holy shit people, get a grip.
Nicholas Taylor
Git = software GitHub = repository provider
git != github
Samuel Gray
>Someone on Jow Forums is retarded stop the fucking presses
Michael White
>And now they (literally) own Git you are retarded. no one owns git. just like no one owns Linux.
Luis Stewart
That's the beauty of "extend, embrace and extinguish": You keep people from using alternatives, instead you corrupt what they are using.
I'm not 100% sure what their strategy is right now. But matter of fact they could sneak in arbitrary code into the Kernel at any given time.
How would you know? By running "git-diff"? Yeah, exactly.
Or maybe there will be some kind of service fees? Maybe they'll try to trick some open source projects into something which makes them able to use licensing and kill em off?
We can't be 100% sure right now what's going to happen. But you faggots better be prepared. What did they include Linux in Windows10 via LFS? Microsoft is up to no good..
David Lewis
>And now they (literally) own Git This is so retarded, that it has to be bait.
Great 1990s meme, OP. In $CurrentYear, though, Windows is slowly dying to normalfags with their smartphone fetish and Microsoft knows it.
Adrian Watson
First of all it was a brilliant pun.
Also see this:
Brody Powell
Why on earth do you think the owner of github can magically alter the sources hosted on git.kernel.org? m$ is still hostile towards free software, but op argues for all the wrong reasons
Daniel Jenkins
A dying animal is the most dangerous animal.
Joshua Sanchez
>I have literally no idea how the linux kernel is developed
Cooper Torres
There was no pun there. Also what do you try to tell me with that link?
Gavin Powell
stop responding to this obvious retard.
Jayden Young
>And now they (literally) own Git. No, they literally don't, you flaming fucking retard. They own GitHub. They do NOT own git, a piece of FOSS released under the GPL2.
>and the very place where the Linux Kernel is hosted Just yikes...
>Move away from GitHub NOW. >You have been warned.
Yeah, let's all do that thing that everyone and their mother did days ago, if they were on GitHub in the first place. Good call.
Putting the fact that you're a blathering simpleton aside, I agree that EEE is quite obviously their goal. Whether or not they can actually do it is another matter entirely.
God, you're fucking retarded AND you don't have the first clue what you're talking about.
lol
Benjamin Perez
> And now they (literally) own Git Github != git fgt
Adrian Adams
Which does not mean I have to be wrong, you know?
Christopher Martinez
Imagine being so OBSESSED with microshit that you literally see it fucking your mum every night.
Sebastian Ward
And yet you are wrong. FFS, you seemed to think that MS buying GitHub made them the owners of git. I mean, you can keep making these deliberately retarded posts trying to play it off like you were just trolling the whole time, but no one's buying it. They're just laughing at you.
Ethan Edwards
>And now they (literally) own Git What the fuck? How can you be this retarded.
Jaxson Kelly
>And now they (literally) own Git. They own github, a code hosting service.
Juan Williams
welcome to Jow Forums where Terry is the most sane person
Isaac Adams
Good lord, just admit that you are wrong and didn't know what you were talking about, that would be less embarrassing then what you are doing now.
Nicholas Robinson
Check the links in the OP, dude. They actually do try to bring Linux down in every possible way, it's not imagination.
Robert Barnes
Yes linux is in danger, not only linux but all of the free software is in danger, MicroShit is responsible for part of the shit in are in but they'r not the only ones, the fight must be taken to them as well Fuck all this shit companies. Facebook, Intel, Nvidia, Microsoft, Apple this are the enemies of free software
Christopher Carter
I think I said all I have to say. You faggots may laugh now, but in 6 month you won't laugh anymore.
Holy hell m$ doesn't own git, git is an independent project. It represents exactly nothing, it's just a program that keeps track of changes in source code. The only thing representing something is github: how to fuck your users for money murican style
Jackson Murphy
I hear ya, brah.
Leo Long
You are just embarrassing yourself, just admit that you are wrong and don't know what git is.
I didn't even say you are wrong, you are just dumb and have no clue what you are talking about.
Gavin Rogers
they own github.com, not git
William Peterson
Isn't tech great? Even retards can use a computer.
I LITERALLY said that I agreed with OP's conclusion, read my post before replying.
Aaron White
He is retarded, stop responding to him.
Josiah Ward
>Microsoft now literally owns Git >Git >(((Git))) People comparing Git to GitHub are most likely equally retarded to those who compare Java to JavaScript.
Linux and git are both owned (or at least authored) by Linus Torvalds you baka
Juan Stewart
> t. microcuck
Eli Lopez
They own github, not git.
Jayden Mitchell
I like how everyone totally ignores OPs larger point about MS's behaviour and focusses intently on a minor mistake.
Easton Moore
>OPs larger point OP's premise is that Microsoft is slowly taking over Linux, which is just ridiculous. Linux and open source community aren't that fragile.
Landon Cook
> They're just laughing at you. Can confirm
Owen Robinson
>Linux and open source community aren't that fragile. I'm sure people once said the same about IBM.
Aaron Jenkins
IBM isn't a community, they are a company that suffered from bad business decisions by shareholders.
Open source is nothing like that, if something fails, devs just move on to the next thing.
Gavin Green
>git==github
Landon Hernandez
>IBM isn't a community Neither is Linux/open source/free software/whatever. The overwhelming majority of their code comes from big-time multinational corporations.
>Open source is nothing like that, if something fails, devs just move on to the next thing. Leaving the users totally adrift and without support. "Well, I might as well go back to Windows".
>Neither is Linux/open source/free software/whatever. Wrong
>The overwhelming majority of their code comes from big-time multinational corporations. Just because developers are paid, doesn't mean they cannot be part of the community. The trusted maintainers of net-next for example, are all Google employees, but they're still a community.
>Leaving the users totally adrift and without support. Open source has always been like this. You paid nothing for it, why would you expect strangers to cater you for free? If you want support, pay for it.
Asher Howard
IBM alone make up nearly 10% of all code. Red Hat, nearly 12%. If you don't think this is an insignificant amount I have some bad news for you.
>Just because developers are paid, doesn't mean they cannot be part of the community. They aren't. They paid workers doing what their company policy wishes them to. You're really stretching the use of "community" used in this context.
> If you want support, pay for it. Which is why everyone uses Windows.
Kinda unrelated, but i was reading that wiki page about the microsoft lawsuits. So what's the problem of bundling windows with some basic programs to run audio files or surf the web or shit like that?
Ian Clark
It means no one will buy or even use alternatives in enough numbers to grant any real consumer choice.
David Thomas
>Leaving the users totally adrift and without support. "Well, I might as well go back to Windows". It's funny that you mentioned support, since FOSS can potentially be supported forever, by either you or other competent developers that may take up an existing project whose original developer left or fork it. It is effectively immortal. Proprietary software, on the other hand, is supported only as long as the company who made it does. Once they drop it, the software will stay unsupported, excluding highly unlikely cases of reverse engineering. I would gladly pay for Windows 2000, the latest decent version of Windows, but M$ won't do that. So I switched to Gahnoo/Linux.
Isaiah Jackson
>They paid workers doing what their company policy wishes them to. Yes, and their wish is that they continue their role as trusted maintainers.
>You're really stretching the use of "community" used in this context. Then explain to me how Dave S. Miller has been the lead of net-next, despite him having four different employers during that time. Explain to me how Yuchun Cheng has been working for Google and for IETF without stopping contributing to Linux? Hell, explain how Torvalds himself have changed employers.
>Which is why everyone uses Windows. They literally don't though. Oracle, IBM, Google, HP, Broadcom, Intel, NVidia, hell even Microsoft all contribute to the kernel, as you yourself pointed out.
Open source is a broader term that also encompasses free software.
Joseph Robinson
>10% + 12% = 22% >majority Funny how you conveniently tried to move goalposts by changing "majority" to "significant amount. Also >source: my ass
Even if he moved goal posts it doesn't change the fact that open source is pretty dependent on big companies these days.
>namedropping this hard You surely convinced me.
This. A slow takeover is still a takeover.
In a theoretical world full of rainbows and unicorns where books like "free software, free society" or "the cathedral and the bazaar" coem from, you are right.
But in reality people don't fork a major project and work their ass off just for fun. I remeber back when Linux was only "for nerds". While this was in some ways better it also meant a whole lot less users, less projects, less advancement.
Open source mitght not be as fragile as IBM, but it's probably not as strong as you think. If you reach a certain tipping point, all the normies will abadon ship which might mean less projects and overall development.
Just imagine if Linux wasn't supported anymore so you had to run your server on some Windows derivate instead of Linux? How much money could be made there?
I'm not sure how realistic this really is, but it's a scenario worth considering.
Samuel Collins
Government needs more money, literally that's it.
Zachary Howard
Lmao this is exactly the sort of dimwitted misinformed post I visit Jow Forums for, thanks for the laugh mate
Lucas Parker
>But in reality people don't fork a major project and work their ass off just for fun And in reality, Microsoft has no influence over kernel development beyond contributing with code.
Daniel Phillips
>Microsoft has no influence over kernel development beyond contributing with code. It might shock you, but code is how software is developed.
Levi Long
>And now they (literally) own Git. dumbass
Brody Powell
And Linus and other maintainers are free to reject code that doesn't conform to the standard. Microsoft does not decide what direction the Linux kernel will take.
Angel Edwards
How about explaining how you believe Linux could be hijacked instead, you weakling?
Benjamin Perez
>Microsoft does not decide what direction the Linux kernel will take. Why else are they a Linux Foundation platinum member?
Corporations that commit code commit code that advances their goals.
>you weakling? *snap* Yep...
Xavier Hall
>>But in reality people don't fork a major project and work their ass off just for fun. No one said everyone forks major projects "just for fun" (although some do), I merely said that FOSS can potentially be supported and modified by anyone, especially the users. If you use FOSS, you don't have to rely on an external company to support your software for you, since you can do it yourself, or other people who can can do it for you. This is not stuff people do "for fun", software is more often than not a tool, and not a business in itself. Software support of any kind is just part of pretty much any business nowadays. If a company runs their internal and external services on FOSS, they don't have to rely on some other company to provide support and fixes for them: their own IT division can do it for them. You don't have to deal with bullshit forced updates and you can immediately take action if there is something wrong with the software you use.
Kayden Bailey
You got it all wrong, it's google who owns git.
Logan Turner
>Corporations that commit code commit code that advances their goals. but they dont commit code into mainline kernel, linus and his gang does
Gabriel Hernandez
>Why else are they a Linux Foundation platinum member? This literally just means that they paid them a certain amount of money.
>Corporations that commit code commit code that advances their goals. Why would advancing Microsoft's goals be the same as hijacking Linux?
This isn't a zero sum game, you stupid fuck. Microsoft isn't a "Linux competitor". They're merely a company. Linux is a kernel.
It's true though. Linus and trusted devs ultimately decides whether or not submitted patches should be accepted. If someone submits a patch that doesn't conform to what the overall goal is, then it is rejected.
Lincoln Powell
>This literally just means that they paid them a certain amount of money. Why would they do that unless its to advance their goals?
I can't believe how naive Jow Forums is about corporations. Back in the day MS couldn't even sneeze without people dog-piling them.
>Microsoft isn't a "Linux competitor". See what I mean? Hopelessly naive.
Samuel Wilson
What is this "overall goal"?
Carter Evans
I didn't imply it was false, I just pictured Linus & co. as gangbanging niggas for a moment in my head.
Blake Baker
>Why would they do that unless its to advance their goals? Because it isn't a zero sum game. Microsoft uses Linux to power their Azure infrastructure, for example.
>Back in the day MS couldn't even sneeze without people dog-piling them. I'm no fan of Microsoft, but you've still failed to explain literally HOW they would hijack the kernel.
You're just spouting a bunch of bullshit. Explain to me how Microsoft or any other company would stop Linux from being developed any more.
Michael King
World domination.
Josiah James
>What is this "overall goal"? A free as in freedom Unix clone kernel.
Luis Rivera
If Linux ever becomes illegal to use, then it will end. Or if the entire face of humanity is extinguished.
Since that will probably not happen within our lifetime, Linux will stay. If you're saying that Microsoft is trying to segregate Linux developers from their platform, then I'd agree, and only agree, with that.
Even if RMS or Linux Torvalds suffers the developer bus problem, GNU and Linux still have many FOSS contributors.
Adam Lewis
Microshit owns GitHub, they don't own git. Big difference. It's like saying someone owns all of Mercedes-Benz just because they bought one dealership. It doesn't work that way. Already people are leaving GitHub in droves for gitlab which is not owned by Microsoft. GitHub being owned by m$ will have absolutely no effect on the linux kernel. You've got a great future in writing garbage clickbait articles full of FUD-fodder though. Good on you. Just try posting them somewhere that they'll actually worry people that don't know any better.
Owen Gonzalez
Lmao how would they realistically make it "illegal" to use? I can't help but chuckle imagining the actual law.
Liam Anderson
THEY OWN GITHUB YOU FUCKING RETARD NOT GIT omg.. stopped reading there..
Sebastian Davis
Yes, yes, we already know, you are really smart, know one notice
Christopher Cooper
>And now they (literally) own Git Yup. Knew you were retarded when I read the first sentence. Kindly educate and/or kill yourself.