/wt/ - Watch Thread: Tudor Edition

This thread is about the appreciation of watches, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that are required to make a fine watch, clock, or other timepiece.

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Omega Seamaster.

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First for 50$ seikos

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Waiting for the mail for this.
Got my purple perlon and beads ready.

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Just purchased this bad boy.

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>try to show someone my watch in my dream
>it ends up being a brown Seiko 5 which I don't have

What did I mean by this?

>user's dream watch is a seiko 5

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You should stop smoking crack before going to sleep.

Cool.

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>not getting the green map version
Ya dun goofed

For silver version I prefer the average display, I thing green map looks way better when the watch is the black one.

Bought the watch because another watch I had was dead and I needed something digital with aditional stuff for bike rides because my analog watch is too simple. I was about buying the classic casio f-91w but saw this watch and remembered I wanted to buy it many years ago, so I ended buying its more expensive, but it looks cool.

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Is the Tudor GMT the poor man's Rolex GMT master, or is it the modern-day equivalent of what the Rolex GMT master used to be (i.e. much more affordable)?

Poljot De-Luxe.

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Modern day equivalent.

The latest Tudor in-house movement is no joke. The best movement you can get on a new watch at that price range for Swiss watches.

It's cheap chunk just like every other Tudor.

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Nice homage, are you not poor enough to get the real deal?

I'd rather have the Tudor than a modern GMT Master. But I'd rather have a vintage GMT Master.

I'm just not confident in my watchmaker skills that I can service it back to chronometer grade.

>fake rolex fag
Well this thread is already off to a good start

I need a dress watch, I need swiss made hand winding and I need AR coated sapphire but I'm poor. What do I buy?

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I guess check out Hamilton.

I feel like getting a Chinese watch what's a top tier one for $200?

Tissot maybe?

Tudor Heritage Black Bay.

Parnis stuff with Miyota 9015/Seagull 2824 clone, I think

Which watch manufacuters aren't basically just jews? Seiko doesn't count because they don't make the 4s15 anymore and shoved it into a more expensive line once they realized how good it is.

What defines a manufacturer as being a jew or not?

>ask watchfinder&co to find a fairly expensive, super rare seiko
>they basically laugh and say they're not interested in finding a seiko

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A replica Rolex or omega?

Why would you ask them? Get in touch with a nip.

So nice.

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What ref?

How rare are we speaking? Like 1/2500 or like 1/10 ?

I've been doing that and they can't find one, but they weren't specifically watch dealers so I figured I'd try a watch dealer. WF&Co reaction is annoying. I'm guessing for this sort of thing you just have to beg on communities for people with watch collections.

SAEK013 but I'd settle for an SBDS001

I'm not sure about numbers but the more rare of the two does not even have a youtube video

>SAEK013
They're literally everywhere, dipshit. It's not like you're looking for a 40's Seikosha.

>SAEK013
I see one on yahoo nip auctions right now.

They're literally not. You will not be able to find one for sale

Look closer that auction is ended months ago

Would someone like Seiya be able to help sourcing one?

Looks like it is still going to me
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Why won't my fucking package move. I am getting kinda annoyed and worried. Might just drive to the airport and sort out these fuckers.

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they spilt paprika over it and are desperately trying to clean up

Interesting. It must have evaded the search because the reference is not in the listing. Thankyou kind user

Good post user, I laughed

>wants to pay rolex retailers to find a seiko
>autist from Jow Forums finds it in seconds
What a thrilling ride

On one hand it looks cool, on the other hand it looks like a $100 mall watch

Yea pro tip nip listing will often not list it with model number, SAEK013, and will instead use the 8 digit or so caliber&case number code, 8R39-00A0.

t. Seiko collector.

Customs?

I am impressed he found it without using the ref when the japs I tried were unable to

Good to know thx.

oh thats nice he replaced the batteries what a kind person

I agree, but it's 41 instead of 38. I think that they should also have it in 38.

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Anyone certain how this goes back? I think I'm supposed to somehow crimp the crown cover on it, but I'm not sure.

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nigga lemme pull out my white perlon and lemme get some beads too

The latter. Tudor's GMT movement is at minimum every bit the technical equal of the Rolex 3175, and the styling goes back to the toolwatch aesthetic of older pre-maxicase GMTs.

My main complaint with the Tudor GMT is the size and thickness. If they made a BB58 sized equivalent at 39mm wide and ~12-13mm thick it would be a pretty close aesthetic successor to the 16710 GMT. See pic related comparing the styling on the Tudor to a 16710 and to a modern maxicase abomination.

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unsubbed from watchfinder

I knew they were swiss shills

Good one.
It's not even at customs yet. It should be the next stage. Last time it took them 16 minutes to get my package from this stage to the customs.

Don't downgrade what they offer ever

Seiko did later develop the 4L35 and the new 6L35 for that niche, and does sell less adjusted GS movements badged as 8L35s. The 4Sxx requires too much hand labour to be feasible for mass production at competitive price point.

Also, I'm not sure I can think of a watch manufacturer that is less of a jew than Seiko. Maybe Damasko if you consider their cost structure might be worse than Seiko's due to limited scale of production, though Damasko does get to freeride off the aerospace business.

Thx 4 replies.

Now another question: when you're in Europe and buy online from a Japanese store, are you exempt from the Japanese 8% sales tax?

Why the fuck would ask them instead of asking here first? Even if we don't know the answer ourselves, we know all the right specialist forums to direct you to.

I did ask here 2-3 weeks ago. Nobody made any suggestions though one user did say they would look into it.

Nah, exactly the opposite, you have to pay vat on the japanese vat too. Fucking stupid and outdated the world's import tax system is.

If you go to a Yahoo! Japan Auctions proxy bidding site like ZenMarket or Buyee and search "Seiko 8R39" there is one for sale right now.

You're welcome.

Got this in yesterday, I love it :3
The Hamilton electric I got with it tics in a very interesting way, Im not sure if in gonna keep that one.

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My question:
>Is everything on and inside the watch the original pieces?

Their answer:
>You can see the whole scope of delivery on the pictures.

What kind of an answer is that?

Chink watches
Orient
Citizen
NOMOS

Too bad Seiko is still kind of better in value unless you do something like get a used NOMOS club or like solar watches.

Don't get too hung up on cost cutting.

I dont think thats supposed to come off user. My best suggestion is to cone the ring so it fits inside the notch again, then flatten it out with a punch.

Thanks user, I thought for sure I wanted the SAEK013 more but now that's within reach, the SBDS001 is calling me again. it doesn't look as good but that power reserve and display back..

Go to the same place and search "Seiko 6s37" and there is one of those for sale too.

God damn.
Still, if I buy a Seiko Tuna in Japan, pay the 8% Japanese sales tax, and then pay 21% Euro customs on top of all of that, the Tuna is still 25% cheaper than buying one retail in Europe.

It's "don't ask questions, just look at the pictures"
Usually the mark of a shitty seller

I like Nomos but they're (ironically) jews.

Shit, thanks. I already tried that earlier but with seiko in katakana, got no results. Watchfinding is treacherous and fraught with pitfalls.

Wait, that should have worked. I must have typed 6537 instead of 6S37

I remember the electric, looked pretty nice.

Let this be a lesson to you to never underestimate the autism of /wt/ again.

Does it mean that they are hiding that they have changed something in the watch?

There's no notch, just a 90° wall on the inside. My guess is that maybe the ring was flattened so it pressed into the inner wall.

Hey I only underestimated you guys because nobody could help last time. I see the error of my ways now. I don't suppose you'd know if a back plate swap on the SAEK013 for a display type is possible with off the shelf parts?

Let me give you a list of things to look out for when doing the math
>Price
>transfare fees
>Exchange fees
>Jap vat
>Service fees (if proxy)
>Shipping within japan(if proxy)
>Shipping
>Eu Vat
>Eu tariff
>handling charges

Maybe. It's usually sellers who have thousands of items listed and barely know what they are.

I don't, off the top of my head, but if you remind me in a few days I'll look into it when I have time.

Left, right, neither? They're about the same price

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Right

i like both

Neither are to my taste aesthetically, but from a technical perspective I'd say you should consider whether you prioritize accuracy at keeping the running time, or a better chronograph mechanism?

The 6S will be expected to be the better timekeeper, but the 8R has a vertical clutch and three pointed hammer so all the chronograph registers reset simultaneously.

the blro's bezel looks purple and pink

FACT!

is the tudor gmt too thick to buy?

I don't like the gilt (read GOLD) in the 58...

Should I just buy a submariner and call it good?

If it's a submariner you want, yes, you should buy one.

If you wait, I'm sure Tudor will make more color versions of the BB58. If I were buying a sub, I'd only consider pre-maxicase models.

I might not be the right person to ask though because I hate the sub and would never buy one, even though I really like the 1675 and 16710 GMTs.

I've been trying to find a new luxury watch that suit my liking and my baby wrist, in the 4000-7000 range, but it is extremely difficult because they're all so damn large.

Maybe I should just give up the prestigeous brands, and just find a more affordable watch that will look great, but ultimately won't make me particularly proud to show off. I'll learn to love it if it's good looking.

So, any suggestions in the 2000 to 4000 range?

Despite being a seiko it would not be my beater so neither is important. Just a present to myself for doing overtime.

Is this one better than pic related?

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My friend has been looking at the Rolex GMT for a while, and yesterday he settled for Tudor. I know he wanted the Rolex. I'll tell you what I told him, if Rolex is what you really want then just go for it.

Just buy a 36mm datejust

I would. But I won't. Because it's Rolex.

Yeah, honestly I think I'm just going for the SubC no date.

If only I had the money for a pre-maxi, I'm pretty stoked to see what they do with the 58. I hope to see more interesting iterations than the black bay. a GMT would be nice obviously, so would a rootbeer/british racing green/burgundy done right etc. (again we'll see)