/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>Assemble a part list
pcpartpicker.com/
>Learn how to build a PC (You can find more detailed videos on YouTube)
youtube.com/watch?v=69WFt6_dF8g
>How to install older Windows with USB 3
pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1

If you want help
>State the budget & CURRENCY for your build
>List your uses - e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g. photo editing, gaming) and graphics card pairing

Overclocking
>DON'T BUY AN 8000K CPU OR Z300 BOARD IF YOU AREN'T OVERCLOCKING
>Delid 8000K
>Use Precision Boost 2 offsets for Ryzen 2000X

CPUs
>R3 2200G - Bare minimum gaming (dGPU optional)
>R5 2400G - Consider if close to 2200G price
>R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs
>i7-8700K - Best for gaming, but most expensive platform & delid necessary
>R7 2700/X - Best mainstream high-end mixed usage
>Threadripper/used Xeon - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing

Motherboards
>Don't buy A320 (All Ryzen is unlocked)
>Only Z300 Intel boards can utilize memory over 2666MHz

RAM
>8GB - Enough for most gaming use
>16GB - Standard for heavy use
>32GB - Too much for most users
>2933MHz+ is ideal; 3200 CL14 is B-die

Storage
>StoreMI can make HDDs better
>Consider getting a larger SSD instead of SSD+HDD
>2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB
>M.2 can be SATA or PCIe
>PCIe/NVMe for intensive use only

Video cards
>SLI and CrossFire are unadvisable
MSRP of common cards
>(GTX) 1050- $110, Ti- $140; 1060 3GB- $200, 6GB- $230; 1070- $380, Ti- $450; 1080- $500, Ti- $700
>(RX) 570 4GB- $170; 580 8GB- $230; Vega 56- $400; Vega 64- $500
1080p
>1050 Ti, 1060 3/6GB, or 570/580
>1070 or Vega 56 if you're looking for 100+ fps & have a CPU to match
1440p
>1070/Ti, 1080 or Vega 56/64
>1080 Ti if you're looking for 100+ fps & have a CPU to match
2160p
>1080 Ti

Monitors
>G-SYNC only with high budget/refresh rate
>Always consider FreeSync with RX cards
>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING

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pcpartpicker.com/list/QgFJnH
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newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113428&cm_re=Ryzen-_-19-113-428-_-Product
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r8, will buy tomorrow if everything is ok

it's mostly for gaming and general usage, btw, the only thing I'm hesitant is that I like to use emulators a lot, and I heard AMD CPU are really bad for it

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Is that a 180 mm fan at the top of the case?

I'll repost from the other thread, it's a meme
youtube.com/watch?v=PQUJ1Z6GILI
It's decent but I'd replace the motherboard (poor VRMs) for a Strix B350-F, a B350 Krait or a B350 Tomahawk/PC Mate, the PSU for a 620 EVO, the memory for a faster kit, the WD Blue for the cheaper MX500, and the case for a MX330 (better airflow)

Good prebuilt where?
Gotta start with something right?

>Good prebuilt where?
Why?

pcpartpicker.com/list/N4sHWD
Better case, Tesseract tends to rattle.

I'm building a rig for some heavy DAW work which includes soft synths, heavy effect chain usage and audio editing/repair. Will also use for some light 1080p gaming at low/med.
I'm opting for an ultrawide monitor as its extra real estate pairs well with Ableton's UI.
My main priorities are keeping temperatures and decibels low without sacrificing too much power.
>Is the CPU overkill?
>Is it worth getting a 3rd-party cooler for it if I'm not overclocking? How loud is the Wraith Prism?
>How loud are the stock case fans?
>Will the video card keep up with the rest of the system?
>If yes, which 560 should I get? I don't mind it being a little weaker as long as keeps cool and quiet.
>What difference does it make to get a more expensive HDD? (WD Black v Seagate Barracuda) How do the qualities change with price? Is it worth the extra money?
>Is the power supply good enough or will temps and noise improve with a 550W that has more headroom?
>Is 21:9 gaming viable with 3rd party tools like FlawlessWidescreen etc?

thanks nerds
ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Hp2Kq4

Don't feel like making an account and adding all that stuff. This is the build I have parted out right now. Thoughts? Anything you'd change?

PC:

Intel® Core™ i7-8700K Processor (6x 3.70GHz/12MB L3 Cache) - Intel® Core™ i7-8700K

Asetek 550LC 120mm Liquid Cooling System - Standard 120mm Fan -

16 GB [8 GB X2] DDR4-3000 Memory Module

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti - 11GB - EVGA SUPERCLOCKED 2 GAMING iCX (VR-Ready)
ASUS TUF Z370-PLUS GAMING -- Aura RGB, 2x PCIe x16, 2x USB 3.1 Gen2, 2x USB 3.1 Gen1, 2x USB 2.0

Power Supply 600 Watt - Standard 80 PLUS GoldAdvance

240 GB WD Green SSD

2 TB HARD DRIVE 7200RPM


Display:
Acer Predator XB271HK (4K 27inch)

Prebuilts are just not a good idea, especially if you don't know what to look for. Most of them will try to sell you old trash for premium prices. I can't count how many times I've seen old FX builds with a GT 730 going for over 500€. Most shops will offer you to build your stuff for much less money.

pcpartpicker.com/user/oshirigami/saved/22sd6h

Is this still a good build for video editing, gaming, and encoding? I want something quite good but not over the top. Don't really know anything about assembling PCs, just searched the archive and saw this recommended a lot.

this build doesnt have rgb

How does a total noobie begin overclocking without frying his components?

$1,500 ish Use is mainly for Gaming and occasional vm. Using a 1440p 60hz monitor and storage from my current build since I just upgraded that a year ago.

pcpartpicker.com/list/MGLC8Y

If you want to shave a few shekels on your fans you can opt for the REDUX version which is basically grey fans without the noise-dampening accessories. Also consider the Thermalright TRUE Spirit 140 POWER. It's a non-BLOATMAXXED version of the D15.

I just want a PC so I can game with my friends who all left xbox damnit T_T
>tfw it was my idea to go PC masterrace in the first place but I'm last to upgrade because I won't let myself buy something that isn't considered some of the best.

Is stupid match a Ryzen 2700x with a B350 tomahawk?

just build one
it's cheaper if you want to save money
you get better stuff if money isn't an object
and it's piss easy

Just build one you dummy. It's literally legos

R2600X/B450 mobo or R1600/B350 and use cost savings to buy a better monitor?

Yes.

The 1080 kind of feels retarded to get compared to a 1070ti. The video's I've been watching usually show a super negligible performance increase between the two cards, like 2%-6% on most games where the cards are like 10% difference in price.

hey friends, /hsg/ 404'd as i was typing, so please dont >>> me
I'm looking to build a general purpose home server, and I'd like some advice on hardware.
Where is a good place I can pick up used pc parts for cheap?
Secondly, what's a good chipset/processor I can build around that is popular and works well for a home server? My last processor was skylake-e and I can't find a mini-itx board at all, so I would like to avoid that kind of situation.
thanks

I want a cheap ssd to put windows in it. Is the kingston 120gb good? I noticed it has slower write speed does this effect the boot time?

why?

I have no idea. You'd have to look up reviews.
15% more for 2600X is normal. Go with that.

Your CPU isn't capable of doing 60fps minimum in everything you play even if you put settings on lowest, does it? Doesn't it stutter?
I wouldn't upgrade to more than a 1050Ti or RX560 until you upgrade CPU.

Not as bad as Patriot.

>Ryzen users spoiled by low temps and think 60C is hot

It's mATX's fault you bought a PCI wifi card instead of a USB one which'll allow you to distance the antenae from the case for better signal ???
There are also m.2 options for both USB hubs and wifi with external cords.
Anyway, the b350m pro4 should allow that. Wifi in x1, and usb hub in the bottom x8.

>Secondly, what's a good chipset/processor I can build around that is popular and works well for a home server
Not sure. Weren't those previous Xeon W's super fast? Like 5### ones. Not the new ones with mesh.

Yes. 1070Ti is 95% the cores, same ROPs, for cheaper. Getting a 1080 is generally a retard move.
Though if you don't have a adaptive sync monitor, getting a 1070Ti over Vega56 is an even more retarded move given Freesync.

4 phases.

Just use stock cooler until you feel it's not good enough.
Get 650w PSU.

You don't need an account to use pcpp

>ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Hp2Kq4
Either get the Pro model or get cheaper SSD.
Would 1440p not cost much more? If you're not gaming, 1440p is much nicer for productivity like DAW.

This was with the Arctic so it's I'd assume it's the same as the normal Tomahawk
youtube.com/watch?v=f8MDhARk0ec
If you can afford it get one with better VRMs like the Strix B350-F or the B350 Krait

I have no idea which one to even get. What card is likely to have the best quality, not necessarily performance, I'm looking for good fans and stuff so that I don't have to worry about the card dying.

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RX550 on sale for $70
>bestbuy.com/site/xfx-amd-radeon-rx-550-core-edition-4gb-gddr5-pci-express-3-0-graphics-card-black/5982203.p?skuId=5982203
It's barely better than the 2400G APU. RX560 and 1050 are almost 2x its performance.

RX560 on sale for $100
>bestbuy.com/site/xfx-amd-radeon-rx-560-4gb-gddr5-pci-express-3-0-graphics-card-black/6183042.p?skuId=6183042
Get it before it disappears for anyone who doesn't need 1080p maxed settings shit or plays more optimized games.

i5-8500 on sale for $175.
>ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-i5-8500-Coffee-Lake-6-Core-3-0-GHz-4-1-GHz-Turbo-LGA-1151-300-Seri/292468646827?epid=14018210511&hash=item44187d63ab:g:Iw0AAOSwsotamVxf
Worth it over the 8400 at that discount.

R5 2600 and 2600X are also $10 off on Amazon.
>amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Stealth-Cooler/dp/B07B41WS48/
>amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-Processor-Wraith-Cooler/dp/B07B428V2L/

For 8 more hours, Newegg also has a big sale on previous gen Ryzen processors. I would recommend them for gaming, but they are good for home server, dedicated video encoder mITX boxes, workstation, etc. $200 for the 1700.

Vega56 Strix (one of the best ones) $500 at Microcenter in store.
Around $530 online normally, I think.

Also, I thought about buying a poweredge on eBay to salvage parts from. Is this something people do? Or will I not save money on this?

Should I struggle to get a LGA 775 MOBA with 2133Mhz RAM support? or should I stick to my 800Mhz ?

I don't fully know RAM too well outside of space usage, so I don't know its uses very well.

Are these Canada prices? Seem kinda low for Canada but high for USA.

The Red Dragon actually isn't bad because it has nano PCB and there is a lottery on them for getting Samsung HBM.
Same is true for the Pulse. So actually get that one.
Strix and Red Devil are good ones but too expensive.

>quality
Sapphire. That backplate on it looks so nice, too. You will want to undervolt it after you get it, though.

I have tax included, they're US prices.

D15 is not the AM4 compatible version
Motherboard could be better
WAY too high price on video card
Memory is too expensive and might not even be B-die
A14 makes more sense than A15 as case fan (unless you want a triple-fan D15 but even then you should only do one A15)
pcpartpicker.com/list/QgFJnH
Tomahawk does not have good enough VRMs do do meaningful OC
You could be 2600 and B450
Don't buy last gen parts unless you get a supreme discount
Boot relies on read speed, not write. However please don't buy an SSD that's smaller than 480GB since they are awfully overpriced

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>getting a 1070Ti over Vega56 is an even more retarded move
>de.pcpartpicker.com/search/?cc=de&q=Vega 56

>Don't buy last gen parts unless you get a supreme discount
ok thanks

hey guys, how do i connect my GPU to this PSU, do i use a single rail or do i split the load between two rails? the GPU i have is an Asus hd5850 cirectCu Top which i'm planning to replace as soon as prices drop™.

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Your current RAM is 1600, not 800. DOUBLE Data Rate. Not worth your effort for the extra 533MHz.

Used is becoming less worth it as all applications and windows itself are more demanding. Unless you're one of those people who can meticulously keep your PC optimized to run well, 4c/4t are generally suffering lately.
But if you find a Devil's Canyon i7 or newer for €1007.84 total
€578.84 for vega 56 + €429 for 144hz 1440p Freesync IPS is indeed much cheaper than
>€1171.87 total
€482.93 for 1070 ti + €688.94 for 144hz 1440p Gsync IPS

You also get much cheaper 75Hz 1440p IPS monitors with Freesync, while there is no such option for Gsync, to save another 100 or 200 Euro more over that 171 initial savings.
That's what you wanted to point out, right? You can't possibly be some retard who can't do math who was trying to say the former option was more expensive, right?

couldn't find the am4 version of the d15 on pcpp. What is the benefit of the better mobo? Video card was $500 but it looks like it just went up in price, but imo it's worth $500 because of the cooler. Memory is listed as the fastest 16gb kit on asrock qvl list for both the board in my list and the taichi.

Just cuz your prices suck doesn't mean that it's true for the rest of us
Difference between an ok Ti and an ok Vega is $20
I think both you should stick to using the ones labeled as the same thing

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Do you mean wouldn't recommend them?
Not trying to be a grammarnazi I'm just dumb and unsure.

I would rather pay 200 less for a 1070ti and have 10% more perfomance without a gsync monitor than have vega 56 with freesync. Anyone who prioritizes adaptive sync over perfomance is retarded

God I wish Astolfo was my bf

The funny thing is, DE prices don't suck. That user is just too stupid to be able to add two numbers together.
Prices are completely comparable to US ones. Just like 5% higher for everything. Same value proposition.

1070Ti doesn't have 10% more performance, but ok do it. It's your money to waste if you want to spend 17% more for 0% more performance but to simply *~believe~* you have more performance because you're retarded enough to compare 1070Ti to the slower reference Vega 56 that you can't even buy.
I don't care. Just don't lie to others.

Huh? You mean the 1000 series? I made it clear what I recommend them for (:not gaming).

These are the specs on my current pc which I've had since 2011. Is it worth upgrading with 8/16GB RAM and a second or third-gen i5? Or should I just save up and build a budget (550USD) Ryzen pc?

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Motherboard more efficient and uses higher quality components so it will last longer, run cooler, and potentially hold up an OC better although most X470 boards can do that fine
No, the 1070 Ti is N O T worth that much. MSRP is $450 and I don't even consider it to be worth that. The Vega I suggested is probably better anyway
Also, the memory kit you have listed may be on QVL but if it isn't B-die it costs WAY too much and the kit I labeled is definitely B-die and also cheaper.
(With B-die QVL is pointless)
Ryzen, definitely. Your PC is far too old to be sinking cash into.

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It's not worth upgrading anything pre-Haswell. Even 2700k really falls behind now days with the much lower IPC. Given DDR3 prices are also stupid, I'd say it's just not worth upgrading what you have. Especially since your board doesn't support k CPUs.

Given your budget, maybe keep graphics card until prices go down further?
You could also try selling your entire PC and getting a 2400G which has an iGPU more powerful than your current graphics card.
Your budget is so small. Maybe if you snag that $100 RX560 before they disappear, and factor in getting like $100 selling your PC (going to be hard with no SSD and only 4GB, I think..) for $650 total. But if not, you can still make a 2400G PC for under $550.

Raise the PSU wattage

I used velocity micro for my prebuild

Thanks for clarifying and the list changes.

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Should I get the MSI X470 Gaming Pro or Plus motherboard? If both choices are shit, is there a better cheaper one?

How am i paying 17% more? as i said i would rather have a non gsync monitor for 270€ less than vega 56 and freesync. If the price difference in US is $20 sure its worth paying that extra for having adaptive sync but trying to say this for EU prices is retarded

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Thanks. The budget is just the basics, I made a draft list pcpartpicker.com/list/FwQgnH
I was planning on keeping the 660ti as well as the hard drives for a while before upgrading those

Why does the OP keep shilling for AMD
Can't we have both options?

He probably gets paid

there's too many xeon processors man, im not sure which ones you are talking about but they seem way too expensive. I dont really want to spend more than ~120 on the processor, whole thing should be under 800 dollars

Whichever is cheaper. They are both decent for the price, but the master SLI/ac has more phases, Wi-Fi, and SLI support.
Newegg has a giant sale on the 1700:
newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113428&cm_re=Ryzen-_-19-113-428-_-Product
The OP gets really close to text limit
8500 is ok has good price currently but that won't last long and the 8700 only makes sense for a tiny amount of people (so not worth including)
If you're buying into Z370 it only makes sense to get the 8700K since it's the best value unlocked chip

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Samefag nigger

same user posting again, still havent fixed RAM issues (cant go past 2400 on new Ryzen build)

im pretty sure ive exausted every option to try and fix it by this point. how do i determine the real culprit? could i just be the ram itself (it ran fine at 2666 in my old intel build though), the CPU (bad memory controller? someone suggested that), or the mobo (?)

I bought the CPU and mobo on the 1st of this month so I'm still in return period. RAM is older but has lifetime warrenty, so I'm gonna talk to their support team tomorrow to see if I can get a replacement kit.

this has been such a big headache.

Is this an ok build?
au.pcpartpicker.com/list/wBZVw6

Did you enable XMP (and set to correct speed)?
Did you set the correct DRAM voltage?
1600 is old
A320 is the worst thing you could possibly buy
550 is APU tier graphics
Monitor should be FreeSync

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>8700K
>120mm AIO
I mean, I'm sure it'll manage for light use, but load that thing up and it'll be throttling in no time.

just ignore the amd shill

What is a good freezing cold reliable FSB 1333 LGA 775 MOBA with 8GB+ DDR2?

>but this example with outtathabox hardware!
1070ti is better if you're too inept to fiddle voltage and clockspeed settings. Vega56 is better if you're not.

You don't need an account lol
Just make the list
None of them since they're old as dirt

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What do you think of getting a business desktop like an optiplex or elitedesk then plugging in a small graphics card. I know that some graphics cards draw too much power and will require replacing the psu but that's a pretty trivial issue. The cpu's >= i5 3*** seem pretty decent.

yes to both. manually input, and using those calculators also. i can get into windows, but it's not stable-- AIDA64 always throws errors, and bluescreens (there's been like 5 different types, all relating to ntoskrnl.exe)

im running 2400 atm and its fine. could it be windows, that's something i haven't considered.

>I would recommend them for gaming

If you find a Sandy or Ivybridge i5 or i7 Optiplex for nothing, they can be a great start. Just make sure to look for something with reasonable storage and at least 8gb ram already fitted to minimise spending. Something like a 1050ti that doesn't need external PCIe power would be a solid bet.

It will work but consider that the CPU is already far outdated so you will need to save up the money to upgrade at some point
Sounds like your CPU isn't getting along with the dies (Micron, maybe?). This is mostly because old DDR4 is a lot worse than newer stuff, but if it's only the difference between 2666 and 2400.

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what would you say is a good price. i've been seeing more and more optiplexes being sold with 8gb ram, 256 gb ssd or tb hdd and an 15 3470 or better for prices ranging from $200-300$.

>It will work but consider that the CPU is already far outdated so you will need to save up the money to upgrade at some point
i really just need something to hold me off for a year or so.

Please stop posting these images, it's making me sad for not having a lewd bf.

You can get away with it for now but we're entering a time where 4 cores won't cut it anymore. Newer games like Ghost Recon Wildlands already use 6 cores and will stutter on 4 core machines. It's essentially a dead end now.

Also, try to get a normal sized case. The slim cases suck because you're stuck with LP cards.

I know this is the most retarded thing ever but I'll just go on. Deciding on windows 7 vs windows 10. Are most programs better for windows 7 or windows 10? Also, is there a way to make windows 7 look like windows 10, if so, I think I might decide on getting that for my new pc

Sucks for you lol
Older programs are more likely to work on 7 but 10 has its own exclusives that might be relevant

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>GTX 1050 3GB 96bit bus width

Nvidia never ceases to disgust me with their bullshit.

i don't see myself playing any AAA games anytime soon. i will mostly stick to small indie games so as long as they aren't poorly optimized things should be fine.
>Also, try to get a normal sized case. The slim cases suck because you're stuck with LP cards.
is it easy to transfer the parts from one cases to another if i can get a better deal on a slim case (as in the price of a slim desktop leaves me with enough money to buy a solid case).

Google

Yes it's micron a die. So definitely the RAM then?

Also running memtest again as I'm about to sleep.

>what would you say is a good price. i've been seeing more and more optiplexes being sold with 8gb ram, 256 gb ssd or tb hdd and an 15 3470 or better for prices ranging from $200-300$.
If you can get away with the inclusion of an i7, SSD and 8gb of ram on the lower end of $200-300, you'd already be off to a great start. But as the other guy was mentioning, 4 cores is bare minimum these days, so I'd definitely focus on finding something with a 2600 or 3770 i7. I disagree with the other guy in the sense of Sandy/Ivybridge being outdated. It's a few generations old sure, but is still every bit as relevant when paired with a low/midrange GPU like a 1050ti. Especially if you can get a whole system cheap.
Other options like looking for secondhand gaming PC's can be a good option with previously mentioned 3770s and even 4770s being good value. It also opens up the possibility of unlocked chips for simple overclocking. Pair a 4770k/Z97 board up with a secondhand GTX970 and you'll have a solid gaming PC.

rate me and my mates shitbox
>2700x
>1080 (shitting itself)
> 16gb 3200 flare-x cl14

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using an fx8350
need new mobo ram and cpu
dont want to spend more then $300
is anything worth it or just wait it out?

Not enough RGB

>footfag
>no RGB
That's some faggot feet right there

i-i turned them off what colors would you like to see?

Is my 4690k still a decent processor. I have it paired with a 1050ti and cant bf4 on ultra.

Pink would really complement the shitty cable management.

>rgb makes me not a faggot
Uh
>thinks thats bad
this is before my mate tidied it up

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no
i had mine maxxed out with a 770 and 390x back in the day 2014-2016
even my 1600x bottlenecked my 1080 i have now so that gives you some idea

Howdy, I asked earlier about a 4 sessions windows 2012 server PC and I got the following:
pcpartpicker.com/list/ckQ3w6

Can it be improved? Or is anything else missing?

drop in a 4790K its around the same as a mid level zen and overclocks better

Personally I like the slim "SFF" Optiplex. The other poster's right, you are limited to low profile cards, but there's options out there.
The 1050ti in pic related fits with included low profile expansion slot adapter
youtu.be/2w45ZOcXXzs

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SHORTBOI

>8350
>2018
>Supporting amd's worst dozer cpu
why?

i need a cheap 8 core processor, best I could find. What's an alternative?

1700 you fucking muppet go get one used they dont overclock and are cheap

pcpartpicker.com/list/wyhDjy
Better?

Can someone please explain what the fuck is going on here?

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>they dont overclock
All Ryzen chips are unlocked, the 1000 series won't OC as much as the new ones
I'd get this
pcpartpicker.com/list/ccwt3b