Take a cs class

First semester is like this. People this they can into computer science because they spend 10 hours a day playing video games and liking photos on Facebook. That's like pretty techy and makes them an expert of the computers, right?

> watching brainlet studylets getting thrashed in second year

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>take a cs class
>there's literally a fat balding guy wearing a fedora, finger-less gloves, and in all black (with a trench coat when it was cold)

I'm not making it up, the memes are fucking real.

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>be first year
>E&CE uni
>arrive like 5 minutes earlier on day 1, class is already full with hyperactive kids spouting buzzwords and trying to socialize
>sit at the very back because the entire room is full
>half the class is retards at the front rows making questions to the lecturer which are LITERALLY WHAT HE DESCRIBED 5 mins ago
>this goes on for the entire first semester
>exams roll out
>50% fail most of the classes (im in a yuro-country and our professors dont really give a shit for passing rates on classes)
>same happens on 2nd semester
Entering 5th year now, long story short at least 80% have completely abandoned this degree
If anything, E&CE is literally weeding out the l337 Gaymer types

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At least you made it out the building before he started shooting

I have an interesting one
>Finish CS degree
>be actively into network engineering since I was 16
>get a job into network engineering
>most of the people I knew in my CS classes were adequate at memorizing theoretical concepts and passing exams based on theory, but they never practiced these concepts
>most of them also finished the degree successfully
>literally noone will hire them
>10 of them started a startup which failed 1 year in
Whats this feeling called bros?

cock sucking

I don't know but I fell for that meme that most of your classmates did.

why do you pride yourself on being a machine to the schooling system, its not like we use any of the shit in CS anyway

You do if you know how to

i know the feeling, housemate from uni who constantly lectured me about how to be successful and how comp sci was a bad choice is currently working at the subway I go to for lunch. I don't even enjoy subway I just get a deep rush when I get to order him to make me a sandwich.

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That never happened

And then they're surprised when they cant get jobs. And they actually say watching twitch is a hobby when asked in interviews.

Subways is legit just due to the huge amount of customization options, the only time it's bad is if you literally just order a fucking mess of a footlong sandwich with processed meats and tons of sauces and delude yourself into thinking it's healthy

I took a simple netbook to class for my comp. sci course my first semester. No GAYMUR crap. Failed the class and a few others cause, first semester, but I'm retaking the class in the fall. Hopefully with me acclimated to college I can do good in it now.

my roommate has that exact laptop holy shit lmao

>take a cs class
Why? Just teach yourself. If you have the aptitude to work as a programmer then you can teach yourself much quicker than any college can.
>paying for digitally distributed games
die, they are a bunch of brainwashed drones too that feel the need to give donations to their beloved fat kike

The simple answer is politics my dear child

Ding ding ding

Take a free online course right now or read some books on CS and you'll ace that shit desu

? What do you mean by politics? I just think most kids now are spoiled brats

There's so many idiots like that who'd be better suited to a trade but have a fear of the commitment due to the weird stigma a trade and blue collar work has

A blue collar job is literally show up, do your work, fuck off till tomorrow and go play videogames with your drinking buddies, not this weird life-consuming hellhole the tech industry turns into where you do startups, networking, side projects, portfolio enhancement, etc

That's the proper answer to your question.

Counter strike

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"If you don't go to college, you'll spend the rest of your lives pumpin' gas or flippin' burgers!"

Same old song and dance since the Gen X days

Once you clear about 2 years you shouldn't need "portfolio" enhancement unless you're really changing your expertise, like fullstack to visualization or something

sometimes feels good not being connected to todays youths

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Because they think they can learn how a computer works simply because they use one every day. However, what they don't understand is that using a computer to play video games is not the same as using a computer to automate tasks and do cool things.

>the weird stigma a trade and blue collar work has
That stigma isn't weird at all. The stigma is that its physical labor. You pick up heavy things, have to get sweaty and dirty, you're out in the boiling sun or the rain or the cold, etc. People want white-collar jobs so badly because they want to avoid that. They want to put on khakis and a polo shirt and sit in an air-conditioned office and never need to get physically exhausted or pick up anything heavier than a laptop bag.

Strange, I'm doing my internship right now and I'm applying almost everything I learned in CS.

Wait until your 3rd year, the annoying ones will have dropped out by then.

You get what i mean tho, right

Tech careers from what i've seen often involve a lot of shuffling around and entrepreneurial spirit to make yourself stand out in a crowded market, unless you go to a place that has recruiters banging on your doors

Oh, yeah, lets add on to that. Blue-collar workers play for higher stakes in a way. When a developer or a sysadmin makes a dumbass mistake and crashes production, he might lose the company a bunch of money and he might get fired, but that's it. Nobody gets maimed or dies. A guy with a table saw or a nail gun or an arc welder who makes a stupid mistake is gonna have something much worse happen to him than losing his job. This counts as a big downside of blue-collar work that a lot of people will go out of their way to avoid.

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This happens in CS too. All the upper division students that I interact with are pretty driven. I saw one person last semester watching twitch steams in all 5 of my CS classes, and he stopped a few weeks in when shit started heating up.

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The one non troll reply, thank you.

I got some online courses. I've also learned how to study and the nuances of college vs. high school.

Doesnt this meme apply to CE as well?

Dodged CS for accounting at the last second
reading all of this made me realize that I didnt miss a bullet, I missed an entire terrorist plane attack.

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Can you expand on how you learned to study

This is soul crushingly accurate, for me at least.

Sure you did you fucking bean counter, sure you did.

And the complain about migrants "taking our jobs"

Schadenfreude

Codemonkey Studies

This

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If you had no passion for CS you did the right thing. But why accounting? Who tf likes accounting?

Cunt slap

I just wanted money, a white collar job that didnt make me stand out in the sun and I'm not that genious at math so I wanted something more simple
In the end accounting was perfect

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You've just given up lots of money for quick money. How do you see yourself growing in this job?

you can get promoted in most white collar jobs you know
And the pay is fine. I live alone and I feel I have time and money to do whatever I want
Sure, I woudnt mind 200k a year starting if I picked CS but 70k a year starting to now 100k a year is fine by me too

What do you see so highly about CS?

Well, That's nice user. If you're content then I don't have anything to say.

Job growth, career opportunities, great pay, less pressure , freedom to work from home. That's perks of my job. Not sure if it applies to everyone. I'm not saying CS is the greatest field to get into. I'm saying it's one of the good ones. Definitely better than most fields.

counter strike. not sure why you would need to take a class in it tho

>weird stigma
No, it isn't weird, it is skilled labor that is also manual labor that doesn't pay as much as sitting in an office.

This is Jow Forums, not Jow Forumseddit. stupid questions get stupid answers, I present:
This one is obviously wrong

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I got a network job with just an a+ cert

I'm not a burger though, certs arent as big here

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Getting your CS degree is worthless if you go to a second-rate university or get poor grades

I always come back to this simple article: blog.codinghorror.com/why-cant-programmers-program/

The simple fact is that most CS majors can't fucking program. Hell, even half of Galvanize/bootcamp can't really code worth shit. If you can put together just some of the concepts you learned in college, you'll do better than most of your peers.

Being the best student of a shitty university is better for you career than being the worst student of a top-tier university.
Statically proven.

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Haha, that was me. Except I was hiding all my weeb interests.
Still failed miserably at class and then spent 1.5 years as a useless neet with suicidal thoughts.

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We are all overpaid as fuck.
By we, I mean "those of us who actually give one half of a fuck or more about our jobs."
Literally impossible not to make retarded amounts of money when you just put a modicum of effort into:
a. Learning something new
b. Being more efficient

I had zero credentials getting into this industry... now, like most of my peers who aren't complete fuck-ups, I make good money, love my job, and most importantly, feel superior to Java devs.

This makes me feel confident about my choice, thanks user

stop fucking things up then

>makes a dumbass mistake and crashes production, he might lose the company a bunch of money and he might get fired, but that's it.
>but that's it.
You're funny

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Yeah, we're all overpaid, but there's a talent divide where those who know how to code are making much much more

This is true. I went to a mediocre uni but landed a prestigious fellowship and used that as a springboard

The cs classes use the same building as me, I've heard fat nerds arguing about halo lore in public and people using the word cuck
Also this guy

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owo

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Dude literally one guy on my team has a degree.
It's in culinary arts.
>Senior Security Researcher
Fucc me, dude, there's a guy on my team that's 55, got into it at like 50 after laying brick for 25 years... I mean, like, one contract for an engagement is worth retarded amounts of money.

Infosec is printing money.
Threat Intelligence is printing money.
DFIR is printing money.
CS is printing money.
IT Admin is printing money.
DevOps is printing money.
RE is printing money.
Fucking AWS administration is retarded money right now.

Clients. Are. Dumb.

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This is very true, but let's be real here, the bar is set really really low for making very good money.
You can still get those jobs with experience and hard work (sans some circlejerky places that hold dick measuring contests on where you went to uni, but fuck those places anyways).

How much do you make right now and how long to get to tht point?

Did you set him on fire like anons of old?

OwO

Stop being a cringy 19yo who wants to appear mature. It's childish.

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$96k w/o bonuses, etc.

First job as a python dev for 9 months at $60k
Second job as a jr pentester for 1.5 yr at $70k
Now red team / exploit dev.
Now, in all fairness I did three years of CE+Math (then I dropped out because fuck a year of English classes I skipped and a thesis) and got my OSCP and OSCE before getting my current job.

I'm still planning on going through the academic route for cs, maybe a double major with physics.
Memes aside, I'm super passionate for this stuff, I suppose it's a love drive. I do have an entrepreneurial background, so it'd be interesting to see what I can pull off!