Lenovo will be releasing soon the Thinkpad E485 and E585, which are AMD Ryzen versions of the E480 and E580.
>>Why do I care?
The E480 and E580 are the budget thinkpads, currently starting at $612 from the lenovo website for the base model including backlit keyboard and 1080p IPS display. It features the real thinkpad keyboard + trackpoint and USB-C charging.
Although the E4/580 is high-quality, it had a single major flaw with intel processors- the notebook would overheat quickly if it also included a discrete GPU. The intel version with integrated graphics doesn't overheat, but has terrible graphics performance.
The upcoming Zen APU versions will give both discrete-level graphics (thanks to vega) and low heat/noise (since it's integrated). Not to mention 9-hour battery life, terrific keyboard, 8 threads, good linux support, excellent display, and durable Aluminum construction.
>>With Ryzen APUs, the E485 & E585 will be the BEST sub-$1000 notebooks on the market.
I know... The X-series and T-series both now have that hideous, proprietary "side-dock".
The E-series, sadly, is now the only one without that eyesore.
Tyler Hernandez
clearly plastic, for the budget model at least
Ayden Clark
Actually the E-series is aluminum
Camden Nelson
eh
Camden Smith
Nah, t440p still good.
Brayden Anderson
Breddy gud if I was buying with my own money, but I'm not so I'm getting a A285
Jonathan Carter
we did it reddit!
Blake Hall
NICE! Finally I can get a laptop worth it. >upstream linux support off the bat >not plastic >scissorjack isntead of chiclet keyboard >backlit >USB-C Please have a rj45 and we are perfect.
Ethan Williams
fuck i hate aluminium. I am tired of this shit.
Owen Lewis
No version with backlit keyboard?
Aaron Carter
It's plastic with aluminum reinforcements last time I heard about the E*80 series, actually. That said, aluminum is not all bad by itself, the problem is when they're filmsy soda can-tier bodies. I've had an HP ProBook made with some fairly stout aluminum before and it was quite sturdy, could even put all of my weight on the palmrest and it wouldn't bend or creak.
Brandon Moore
basic plastic with an aluminuim lid good build quality if it's same as the e480
Juan Collins
The $612 in OP includes the $30 backlit keyboard upgrade.
I am a fat smelly sweaty incel lardass, i sweat so much that after some time there is oxydation marks on the palmrest if it's made of any kind of meme metal... it's ugly and i can't clean it, meanwhile with plastic i don't have such troubles.
yes, my sweat can oxydate aluminum, such is the power of high salt level.
David Morales
>Bitching about aluminum >high salt levels This checks out.
Gabriel Anderson
Oh, I see. Sorry about that user. Does it happen with ones that aren't finished in bare aluminum too? There's many that have a black or gold/bronze paint finish, don't know it that'd help at all.
Well there's only been one attempt that I know of so far to put a desktop one on a laptop and it was really half assed. And there isn't a medium/regular voltage line for at least until it penetrates enough of the market to make sense for OEMs to push them in mobile workstations, so yeah...
John Rivera
>AMD dropped
Luis Myers
How is it different from the T series?
Jordan Peterson
> Implying Intel isn't cucked for at least the rest of the decade. Less ports and expandability, traditionally build quality took a hit, but this gen is almost as good in that regard.
Charles Robinson
X1 with a 2200g when?
Kayden Hill
Everything about this laptop seems great OP, except for the thickness.
James Green
I know, man. It should be AT LEAST 50% thicker.
William Cooper
>8GB Oh noe.
Jacob Perez
Lid backside : Aluminium Lid frontside(display frame) : Plastic Keyboard/wristrest : Outside plastic supported by aluminium on the inside Bottom panel : Plastic(thicker one, really strong)
Also the ports are reinforced with aluminium plate for more endurance, but ports on opposite side are not. They are on separate PCB so even if they fail it will be easy to replace them(PCB has cutout so port can be soldered on both sides of PCB)
>Keyboard/wristrest : Outside plastic supported by aluminium on the inside Thanks dog
Nicholas Sanchez
>16:9 >still pretty long >dat bezel
Lucas Rivera
>soldered ram >soldered SSD >glued in battery >can't use a cheap dongle. Has to be the $75 Apple one or it won't work defend this bullshit
Xavier Ramirez
Take a look at PSREF there are 19.9mm and 21mm thick models, and i think that 19.9 is made of aluminium
James Davis
also slower and hotter
Nathan Powell
>Lighter What are you? A slug? >Thinner A girl? >6 hours more battery life. And a 3 years lifespan
Oliver Harris
Yea that's great and all, bit when is the A285 and A485 releasing? I want my T480 chassis with Ryzen internals already. I'll drop $1500 easy on a maxed out A485.
Chase Miller
>weight starting at 4 lbs That's guns be a pass senpai
is there something i'm missing? I've always avoided the E-series and L-series like a plague.
I was going for a T480 / T480s, waiting for a back-to-school sale and more options (fucking MX150 locked to the additional cost vPro CPUs).
Julian Hughes
It's a T-480 with AMD guts. Also good, and worth fanboying over
Sebastian Gomez
>I was going for a T480 / T480s Wait til next month and get an A485. See:
Daniel Myers
yeah but how much will it cost and when?
I wish there were news for the A485 like in OPs post
Henry Wood
but it doesn't have the 2 gb gpu, right?
is the MX150 2 GB bad?
Zachary Price
i'll keep this in mind, assuming Lenovo is actually reasonable and doesn't go with their retarded first-dibs pricing, or no CTO until 6 months later.
I want my WQHD screen
Asher Taylor
>but it doesn't have the 2 gb gpu, right? No. Because it has integrated Radeon Vega graphics which are just as powerful
>is the MX150 2 GB bad? Kinda. Nvidia has 2 different versions of the MX150, one slower than the other, and no way to tell which your laptop has.
Wyatt Walker
Why are prices so fucked for us Brits?
>£520 So that’s $680
Jordan Nelson
so It's not gonna be good for playing Tekken 7... damnit
Alexander Nelson
it is so bad but it's better than no dGPU on a $1000+ laptop. It's the equivalent of the GTX 1030. I didn't even know there was a GTX tier that low until I learned of the MX150.
Christopher Kelly
T480 has the normal MX150, T480s has the weaker Max-Q version.
if it's an ultrabook, it will have the weaker version.
Asher Collins
>is there something i'm missing? I've always avoided the E-series and L-series like a plague. yeah, don't listen to /tpg fanatics T/X/W/P series have a rollcage and all the good stuff that make it sturdy L just have fiberglass renforced plastic and some aluminium renforcement/lid E is just plastic with some aluminium renforcement/lid so yeah technicaly T/X/... series are better than L/E, but it's still miles ahead of any consumer laptop
Gabriel Perry
could someone explain to me why it's STILL really hard to find a ryzen based laptop on the market? isn't it been like a year since they launched?
Zachary Flores
Ryzen for laptops (GPU Vega include) didn't was until Nov 2017 and mass production until March 2018.
Bentley Clark
My dad got one of the Raven Ridge Dells on launch. It's fucking amazing.
Grayson Mitchell
Vega 10 is not as powerful as MX150. There is at least a 30% difference. The difference just isn't big enough to make a dedicated GPU worth it.
Grayson Murphy
>There is at least a 30% difference according to benchmarks, it's less than a 10% difference
Josiah Campbell
>The E-series, sadly, is now the only one without that eyesore. Does it even have a docking port? I would prefer a shitty docking port to not having one at all.
Jordan Martin
I can't wait to buy a Ryzen thinkpod, 5 years from now ofc.
John Ward
Got a link to those benchmarks? maybe I was looking at 15W Vega benchmarks. Maybe with 25W it's as fast as a MX150
Gabriel Martin
Notebookcheck literally says otherwise
Nathaniel Bailey
Will it have whitelist not allowing linux-friendly wi-fi cards? Do modern thinkpads still have whitelists?
Austin White
well, now i will be though usbC so it's fine
Henry Ortiz
Give me a quick rundown, will these be sporting the newly announced Ryzen Pro CPUs or are they the first launch U CPUs?
Henry Russell
9h battery spec vs 13h on the intel version...
Oliver Jackson
The only 25W Ryzen that I'm aware of already being on the market is the Ryzen 5 2500U in the HP Envy X360 I can't remember if it was notebook check or another publication, but they compared the gaming performance between the 15W Ryzen 7 2700U vs the HP and it was within 1-3 fps through the majority of games only because of the 25W TDP of the HP's 2500U
Cooper Mitchell
Ryzen Pro APUs.
Adrian Adams
New memepads are shit t43 and t60 were the last good ones.
Austin Murphy
Isn't the difference that the Pro's can ramp up their threads to full power while the 1st release U's can't? Something was different about the Pro's vs the 1st release, just can't remember exactly what right now
Samuel Butler
The Pro APUs are the same as the U variants performance-wise. The difference is the addition of business-class security features like encryption.
This is what I'm hyped for. Better wireless, better battery, better cooling.
Jonathan Allen
What do E- and A- series cut down on compared to T- or P- series? Build quality, etc
Luke Butler
13h? lol Good luck getting a few hours with that dGPU and Intel CPU in turbo mode.
Nathan Lee
I always thought As were just rebranded Ts with different hardware but idk.
Nicholas Foster
its more than 700 for me
Jayden Morgan
How do I make sure to get the Aluminum version? I live in the US, and according to the PSREF the plastic version is meant for amerilards... :(
OP's point is that the E-series is the best SUB-$1000 laptop of current year. For budgets over $1500 the A285/A485 is a better thinkpad, while the new Envy X360s also become available with Ryzen 5 or 7 APUs right above $1000.
You can get "Intel Wi-Fi" for a $10 upgrade. So it's up to you when you buy it.
Yes, it will start at $600, expect to pay +$200 extra for the top-of-the-line Ryzen 7 2700u.
E-series starts at $500 and will be under $1000 for a high-end config (with Ryzen 7 + Vega 10)
A-series starts at ~$1000 and will be about $1500-$2000 for a high-end config (with Ryzen 7 + Vega 10)
Both are high-quality and have backlit keyboards, IPS displays, etc...
A-series are identical AMD versions of the T-series and X-series, so they are highest-quality. They also have better cooling and longer battery life.
E-series comes in both Intel and AMD versions, and both versions are identical aside from CPU.
Brody Jones
Any word yet on a definitive release date for the E585s?
Carson Lewis
Then fork over $2000 for the A485.
For half the price though, the E485 is nearly identical.
