Why can't you have a quiet PC with equal or better specs than an Xbox One X in a box this size?
Why can't you have a quiet PC with equal or better specs than an Xbox One X in a box this size?
Blake Richardson
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Julian Young
Because Xbox One X components are proprietary.
Austin Green
Basically the computational power you can have is limited by how much heat you can dissipate, and anything small and quiet can't dissipate much.
Logan Jackson
because the microsoft jews want more money and they're purposefully holding PC tech back to sell more shitboxes
Luis Martinez
But you can, and even smaller too, and even VR ready.
The Xbox is XBOX HUEG in comparison.
Jonathan Clark
The airflow is good. Now this on the other hand...we have lift off.
Samuel Powell
A computer does more last time I checked. Usually more functionality means more energy spent generally.
Ayden Cook
you can, but you're going to have to shell out a LOT of money to get the parts fabbed to your specifications
otherwise just make something quieter and stronger with a little more size using the open standards available
Angel Scott
Because Microsoft mass produces one configuration of hardware and sells it at a loss with the intent of making it back on game sales and their online paywall. Meanwhile small form factor PCs are a niche among enthusiests because you pay as much or more for less expandability in exchange for what basically amounts to aesthetics.
Brandon Peterson
You can.
Jeremiah Roberts
the meme that consoles sell at a loss has been proven to be not true. even the PS2 was sold at a profit from day one and the origin of this was probably from japan sales in the early months of launch when the factory's where just ramping up production by the time PS2 was released in the west it probably only cost 100$ to make and same goes for xbox one etc. a xboxone x has a cooler the same as a titan a vapor chamber and a cheap cpu gpu combo. its basically just a super cheap pre ryzen amd system with a titian cooler stuck on top.
its not sold at a loss and never was.
most console users only buy like 2-3 games for the lifetime of the console.
Nolan Watson
but you can user
Zachary Campbell
>intel iGPU
lmao
Charles Williams
But I can.
Dylan Mitchell
X is sold at loss, what the fuck are you talking about? Og one and ps4/pro are not. The gpu aline is basicaly a rx470 with some vega enchancments which costs like $200 in retail.
Jaxon Evans
You can run a fanless 1060 and 8700k in this bad boy
Aaron Wright
The real impressive thing is the price.
It has almost the same amount of teraflops as a GTX 1070, which by itself costs as much as the entire Xbone X.
Too bad I'm a sonycuck I guess.
Joseph Kelly
>Paying extra subscription for online features
Nolan Allen
Evan Jones
If we keep price aside, you can buy populated gaming motherboards off the web and stick nice big coolers on them. There you go.
Jordan Davis
Easton Howard
Consoles run on an AMD iGPU.
Xavier Lewis
Tyler James
Because PC parts follow ATX standards and xbox doesn't. Is this bait?
Christopher Cooper
Nice fit and finish on that thing.
Andrew Wright
not sure why you think I can't have a Ryzen 2400G in a tiny ITX case with an external PSU.
Christopher Parker
idk lol
Christopher Phillips
>Why can't you have a quiet PC with equal or better specs than an Xbox One X in a box this size?
Nicholas Robinson
Because in some ways we're in the space age (enough computing power to put a 4K screen device in your pocket) and in some ways we're still in the medieval age of computing (we're still using mechanical ways to cool down components).
Similar situation in medicine. In some ways we're still in medieval age (treating people by cutting them up), and in others we're doing genetics.
Some problems in technology are still unsolved. Or their proper solutions are too expensive for consumer products.
Parker Allen
That's the fucking air intake numbnuts.
The new Hades Canyon runs on Vega graphics and VR ready.
Austin Richardson
It has both Vega GPU chip and integrated Intel graphics, afaik.
But anyways, it's expensive af. Basically the price of a mid-range laptop.
So the only groundbreaking thing is how much power they managed to squeeze in such a small enclosure.
It might be a real competitor to macminis and such. Nobody who wants a cheap htpc will buy this, let's get real.
But imo Intel could do a better job at designing a proper case. That plastic case just looks cheap af and uninspiring. The gaymur leds can be disabled but if that's the only concept of you design you put into it, don't expect any normies to be attracted to such a product.
Daniel Bennett
I dunno i m drunk off Captain Morgan Rum n need uh pizza with the pepperoni from papa johns with tha garlic Butta dipping sauce mmmmm how tasty
Gavin Garcia
except you're leaving out the fact that the xbx costs half the price
Samuel Gonzalez
A 450mm wafer costs something like 300 bucks, and there's at least 300-400 good dies. GDDR5 also costs like 10 bucks per 8GB module and AMD likely gets bulk deals. Manufacturing costs for the SoC (not including fan/power supply) is probably under 80 bucks, it uses existent technologies running in the Polaris and Jaguar line so they can be sold at a lower premium avoiding significant RnD costs.
Ayden Barnes
Modularity increases physical dimensions because you need to include the connectors and slots.
Cameron Sanchez
just bought one of those for my Chernobyl build, it works pretty well
Noah Wright
Better yet why couldnt they put windows on the fucking xbox? Id buy it in an instance if i could
David Perry
Is... Is that the cpu cooler blowing hot air onto the power supply, which is blowing hot air right back at it?
Thomas Jenkins
have you never checked which way the air flows through a psu?
Jason Phillips
I love the form factor.
Shame the price is so high.
Doesn't Zotac have very mixed reviews?
Mostly dead GPUs and that sort of stuff.
Not a big fan of passive cooling really, mostly because even the tiniest amount of forced convection will massively outperform passive convection.
Tyler Morales
not him, but I personally wouldn't want any more hot air going directly into the PSU than necessary. though that build looks quite improvised anyway.
Evan Watson
Except not a single PC igpu is even close to 1050ti+ performance
Evan Reed
I've had a Zotac GTX 570 and 970 that experienced no issues. I got the 1070K for $650 on eBay, upgraded the CPU to a 7700T and it has been running well for nearly a year.
Jason Thompson
NUC Hades.
Easton Peterson
Intel's new NUC comes close to 1060
Matthew Wright
my brother's original quadruple is so fucking loud, but my revised version isn't very loud. Now I worry that mine is just actually overheating.
Elijah Price
fans just work very well and a blower have no problem cooling a hot card like the 290 if you are willing to accept noise.
Jack Rivera
i7-8709G has 24 Polaris CUs @ 1.06-1.19 GHz
Xbone X has 40 Polaris CUs @ 1.17 GHz
So no, it's not as fast
Isaiah Robinson
You have to pay on Sony too? How long has it been since you've played on either?
Brandon Price
>Xbone One X is the only console
It's plenty more powerful than a regular xbone and PS4.
Besides the fact that this is the post we replied too:
>not a single PC igpu is even close to 1050ti+ performance
And the Hades is just shy of a 1060.
Ryan Thomas
Well OP asked about a PC as powerful as X specifically.
Joseph Sanchez
You can.
Chase James
>atom inside