>Hygon "Dhyana" processors are so similar to AMD's EPYC processors that Linux kernel developers have listed vendor IDs and family series numbers as the only difference. In fact, Linux maintainers have simply ported over the EPYC support codes to the Dhyana processor and note that they have successfully run the same patches on AMD's EPYC processors, implying there is little to no differentiation between the chips.
>>Hygon "Dhyana" processors are so similar to AMD's EPYC processors that Linux kernel developers have listed vendor IDs and family series numbers as the only difference. that's what you get when you buy the IP faggot. have you ever designed h/w from IPs?
William Moore
>AMD stuck in a perpetual state of catch-up Nothing new to see here, folks.
Liam Ortiz
yup, just give away that x86 for a couple of cents you have to be a fucking retard
Luke Myers
>cheaper chink cpus that can still trash jewtel so? seems nice to me
Thomas Foster
Except that they're ahead of shittel
Blake Gray
>he doesn't know about the Chinese
Benjamin Baker
>you have to be a fucking retard that's what arm does. that's what everybody who sells IP do. You get some Arm IP licenses for a few millions of $$$ and Samsung and QC make several billions of $$$ each with those IPs.
Christian Gray
Keep diverting, like this is about pootel, and not American IP being poached
Brandon Thompson
>go to chinese university >copy other peoples work >still fail because answers are in english fuck commies REEEEEEEEEEEE
Michael Flores
How's that 28 core cpu going, schlomo? Is the 1770w chiller included in the box?
Bentley Thomas
>China gets x86 for a couple of cents >China now in lead woops
Eli Thomas
FTFA >The core intellectual property, technology and pricing are still firmly in the hands of AMD.
fucking idiots, don't even read the article. OP confirmed FAGGOT.
Jason Morris
Good, I'd rather have chinese than piece of shit jews, thank goodness intel is dying.
Lincoln Brooks
>t. mr trump you used to love china, what happened? is it because you are unable to chink the chinks? hmm
James Wright
Does this mean that I can't buy bag of threadrippers for 10 cents a piece from a back-alley 10nm fab in the Shenzhen market?
I bet AYYMD probably broke some US laws regarding technology transfers to China too
Asher James
You know, I can tolerate a few antisemitic jabs here and there, but these posts certainly have no place in such a thread. You may be joking other times, but this here is clear bold racism! So go back to
No you won't see it happening. And if you see it happening it will be in a few years on some 1st gen obsolete zen core and that's all.
You guys don't even know how IPs are distributed. In the best case the chinese would be getting a black box verilog design which gets decoded and synthesized on the fly and don't actually having source code on their hands. All major digital design programs have the option to use you private key to encode the source code and then it gets decoded only when it is synthesized to the final circuit.
Same shit can be done with s/w, but there you have binaries which means the same thing for the source code.
t. someone who works with Arm Altera Xilinx e.t.c. verilog libraries.
I am never joking. something smells like merchant business here.
Eli King
Jews are not a race, friend. It may be cultural prejudice and it may be inappropriate, but it isn't racism. Meta discussions like this in any case aren't appropriate for Jow Forums.
Wait so. >China pays AMD billions to get the Zen blueprint >Starts making AMD cpus cheaper than AMD ever could >Reduces intel market share whilst still sharing similar architecture to AMD chips >AMD Move on to making Zen2 which is a superset of Zen
Isnt this a win win? Less people locked into Intel specific op codes and more cheap CPUs for all. Plus AMD now have more R+D money for Zen2 and Zen3 etc. which they can sell to the chinks down the road.
Aaron Moore
Also arent most intel chips built in china and therefore subject to trumps new trade tarrifs?
By offloading/licencing zen onto the chinese, AMD can avoid these tarrifs whilst developing the next 2 generations of chips. By which time trump will be out of office.
Charles Roberts
AMD will always be a generation ahead, this won't go into mass production until next year, when Zen2 comes.
China doesn't mind, they'll just make up for in quantity, megawatts are free there. Also China doesn't have vendors on the level of HPE/DellEMC, so their ecosystem needs work.
All in all AMD gets money, US gets somewhat cucked, China gets their CPUs, everyone's happy! Besides Intel I think.
Kevin Green
Doesnt this also pave the way for china to have the largest supercomputer in existence by locally manufacturing cpus at scale? They could also position it somewhere cold like harbin so the heat output may not be so much of an issue.
Anthony Sullivan
>implying chinks can actually do anything with the IP >implying its not more likely stock Ryzen rebranded
Chinese companies hate doing actual R&D.
Jacob Rogers
>back-alley 10nm fab in the Shenzhen The most advanced fabs in china are 28nm and its licensed tech from TSMC.
Adam Thompson
Not really, China's fabs aren't cutting edge like TSMC/GF and I already said they'll be using IP a generation or even older, those two together would roughly put China's licensed CPU around 40% less performant per chip than what AMD will sell in US.
You can make monster supercomputers with this, but not without making them way more enormous than EU/US/Japan ones.
Brody Smith
Enjoy backdoor built in at hardware level connected back to chinese servers
Camden Sanchez
Chinese act like jews as well they are no better
Brayden Foster
Tianenmen Square 1989 六四事件 Animal Farm
Liam Perry
>Chinese backdoors
Jackson James
We don't read zerg runes, post link in english like God intended or fuck off.
Thomas Ross
I'm surprised the American government allowed this deal to happen. Why would they want China to catch up on decades of microprocessor research. When German chip manufacturer Aixtron was about to be sold to China America threatened to sanction the company to stop the deal from happening and this was just a dwarf compared to AMD.
Nathan Edwards
Way better deal than the current hardware backdoor connected back to Israel everyone has.
Evan Wright
>Why would they want China to catch up on decades of microprocessor research. When German chip manufacturer Aixtron was about to be sold to China America threatened to sanction the company to stop the deal from happening and this was just a dwarf compared to AMD. The UK already let some chinese company buy Imgtec who then transfered MIPS to another Chinese company.
Here in Germany they allowed the robotics company Kuka to be sold to China. One of the most innovative German companies is now Chinese. They changed the laws to make such acquisitions harder but it's too late and not enough. China doesn't even hide what its goals are. In their "Made in China 2025" campaign they state that they want to become the leaders in many industries and one part of it is buying Know-how from other countries.
Benjamin Kelly
>campaign they state that they want to become the leaders in many industries and one part of it is buying Know-how from other countries. It doesn't even make sense and will probably hamper native innovation
Jaxson Edwards
Butthurt le 56% prosemitic goyim Intel is finished
Isaac Ortiz
They Licensed the chips to that government, not hard to figure out.
Levi Ortiz
Company making these cpus is a AMD owned subsidiary, nice try shlomo
English French and English Chinese news translation are really good now thanks to recent advances in deep learning and ridiculously large corpora to train on.
Easton Russell
Holy shit, expect them to get sued into oblivion by Intel. "Hygon" doesn't have an x86 license.
Zachary Russell
Way to link Chinese propaganda and not bother to read it.
Nolan Hill
x86 is traditional chinese processor discovered during the voyages of admiral Zheng He in the 1400's
Intel should respect China's territorial claims to the x86 processor architecture
They literally own giant >40% stakes in all the companies. They got around U.S policies and can rake in cash.
Besides I don't think China has the talent to develop anything better than something equivalent to Zen+. Once Zen 2 and the intel equivalent comes out their chips will be obsolete.
Tyler Torres
Literally neural net translators.
Elijah Williams
Oh no CIAniggers are advising against chink botnet
Gabriel Gutierrez
Everyone in the thread is missing the point, China is still aiming to achieve independence in this area, doing so would probably hurt amds and Intel's profits, egro both are now competing to squeeze as much as they can before China start retaking their own home turf, and this article seems to indicate AMD is far more aware of this than Intel is, although that isn't to say Intel doesnt have their own attempts
Look up that intel-spreadtrum joint effort CPU for Intel's side of things.
These are not allowed to be exported out of china and AMD reaps the profits anyways without having to lift a finger. >inturds buttblasted that AMD gets to sell chips to the chinks but they can't
Jose Johnson
>chink detected >spend years paying engineers to develop something >gets stolen >haha who cares get over it! Sounds like you're the cuck chinaman. Day of the unzipping when
Grayson Reed
>He thinks AMDrones on this board even own modern AMD hardware to begin with. You were arguing with NEETs who own bulldozer shitboxes and athlons all along OP.
Bentley Johnson
Western governments need to stop the chinks from buying everything.
Christopher Hernandez
Intel cucks and brandname-faggotlets caused this. It's their fault AMD didn't have enough cash to survive between 2014-2017.
Gavin Carter
They can go ahead and buy "know how" for (relatively) short term competition. Buying someone else's progress, though, is no replacement for your lack of ingenuity.
Austin Smith
Die in a house fire nonfree shill.
Jesus fucking christ, shit like riscv can't come soon enough.
