At its core, Linux promotes Socialism

at it's core it's voluntarism and freedom of information, grab a book dumb curry nigger.

free as in freedom, not free as in free beer

RMS talks about Free Software, not mere open sores.

Fine, libre software. But if I make libre software, I can sell it while proving the source code. See:doom

it's so socialist the most competitive technology companies are heavily involved in it's development (Intel, Red Hat, IBM, Tesla, even Microsoft)
sage goes on all fields, that prevents the paid shills from being paid.

I can use linux without contributing anything to it

>spoken like a true socialist

If anyone is able to just up and use your software for free (by compiling the source), then your software is free. Any sales you make of physical media or etc are basically donations. Because I don't have to pay if I don't want to, I'm choosing to donate money for some tokenistic reason that I don't have to if I don't want to.
So regardless, open source promotes socialism by reducing the value of your work to 0 and any money you achieve from it is therefore via donations.

If it does: great!

Where does it say you must work for free to work on or use Linux?

Marxist here. It doesn't, although GNU/Linux style software would be prevalent in communist society.

Good, now fuck off

>he doesn't know linux programmers are paid
most of them are part of a foundation that pays them for the work they do

He's a child, of course he wouldn't know anything about what he posts

This guy gets it.

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Intel, Google, Redhat, Microsoft and other corporations working on Linux development. So socialistic.

socialism is based and redpilled

You can be for profit and sell as open source

Take the game dev for One Hour One Life. His game is in the public domain, but if you want access to the official game servers instead of a private server, then you have to pay for a license key to play on the main servers. Also, you get access to precompiled binaries.

You can love fascism all you want man, but you can never escape the fact that it lasted 12 years then it got butt fucked by fat americans and starved russians.
Blame jews if it makes you feel better but it will never change the fact that it got rekt by the very beings it sought to exterminate

>donations = socialism
ok man looks like America is socialist then

fascism is socialism you tard
literally just a buzzword invented by mussolini
libs have been running with ever since to distance themselves from "that kind of socialism"

>voluntary association
>good being shared is not scarce
Retard

linux doesn't tax you. It doesn't cost anything. Passionate people work on it for free. Free lowers cost so it actually promotes Capitalism/business

yeah

Socialism

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Passionate people also get paid to work on it

Not fine, Free Software works well.

And well, of course you can, that was never contested. You can also provide services around the software besides selling it.

>belittles people on the internet for lack of an actual opinion
>manchild

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What in the flying fuck?

You are NOT forced to show your source everywhere just because it has a Free Software license. You need to provide the source to the END USER. If a person is not the END USER, if the person did not pay if you are selling Free Software, you DO NOT have an obligation with the person.

Free Software is completely agnostic regarding economic systems. And you write like socialism is bad. You a nazi or something?

The only thing that's arguably bad about socialism is that some see it as a necessary step towards full communism.

>posts blatantly incorrect shit on the internet for lack of actual discussion
I have an opinion, and it's that OP knows fuck all about the subject.

Linux only exists because of corporate contributions. At one time the largest user of Linux was the US military.

Jow Forumsniggers should stay on their nigger cattle farm of a board

To access these servers I'm assuming you need some form of non free software, to either generate ID keys or to authenticate them

I didn't say donations were socialist, but the idea of open software makes the software's value $0 because that is the minimum price someone has to pay to use it

You're missing the point. Just by having to provide the source in the open environment (and therefore making it freedom supporting), anyone can use it for free. Making its value 0.

Imposed socialistic relations don't work good, the question is can societies function largly on the basis of voluntary associations where people aren't just exploiting each other as means to their own selfish ends. The typical response would be people won't contribute, it can't be coordinated, etc, etc... open source is a practical proof such things can be done.

Also most "scarcity" today is just socially constructed to maintain the profit system.

Commercial software only has a cost because of property laws upheld by taxation. Ya, free inputs create business opportunities but you're not really look at the full framework.

Go back to Jow Forums you fuck-tard autist faggot
We only talk bout 1337 H4k0rz here !

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you're an absolute fucking retard.
the GPL literally protects you from tyranny.
Open source literally protects you from both government and corporate kikes
fuck off

Quote, directly, where any Foss license says you cannot charge for software?

How fucking retarded you. Yes you can charge for FOSS software, but I can also just go and compile it from source for free if I want. So it's value is $0.

>Donations are socialism
>Has no idea what socialism is
This is the state of american education

See
The absolute state of lincuck users

Clearly not, since people are willing to pay for it.

>freely accessible goods produced on the basis of free association
now extend this to everything

This, This is why redhat had to buy centos.

Labor theory of economics.
Communal intellectual capital.
Anti-commercialism retarding end user application software with WINE acting as West Berlin.

Jew spotted
>I'm not paying for anything unless I'm forced to

No, they're choosing to show their appreciation/support/whatever for it. They're paying for it only in the way that they're spending money on it. They have no obligation to do so, so it's more a donation than payment

Not socialism.
Socialism != everything is free

If one is unwilling to provide the source code to something I've purchased as an end user, then they are possibly trying to screw me over with some form of malware.

This is why free software is free and in feedom, not as in beer. To have the freedom to avoid trash that does not provide source that can be audited.

In an idea world, only retards would use binary blobs.

1. Socialism is a meaningless buzzword that describes everything left of anarcho-capitalism.

2. Not charging for things that are essentially free to do (duplicating source files) is not any form of soviet communism or whatever you're trying to imply. It's common sense.

3. Not charging for things that are essentially free to do (duplicating source files) does not imply not charging for things that are not free to do (actually creating the source files to begin with). You can be paid to work on the Linux kernel by an employer or a benefactor or by donations and then release your work for free. Getting paid for your work is not unreasonable. Rent-seeking on data duplication is.

This. Opinions like this were the only right answer back in old Jow Forums
>HURR DURR BUT EVERYONE COULD JUST COPY UR CODE AND USE IT FOR FREE
Except hardly anyone has the know how, and fewer would give a shit enough to do that

With non free software, you have to blindly trust that a company will not spy on you or not do anything else fucky. If you look in the licence agreements, you'll see walls of text full of legalese. You cannot do this, you cannot do that, you cannot modify that, you cannot sue for that, blah blah blah. If you buy a car, you can modify or fine tune it, but with propriety software you are paying to use the software, you cannot modify or port the software to your favorite platform. You aren't even allowed to make more than one backup copy.

If my GTX 970 worked well with the libre drivers, I would ditch the non free binary blobs.

>old Jow Forums
Shut up and die boomer

f r e e d o n

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I admit

I'm more than okay with that, now I like Linux more than ever

What. No it isn't

I believe liberalism works in a civil society, in the real world it's values are abused and overturned.

Take blacks for example, they steal, lie, cheat, gamble, rape, murder all more than the common white man. Deduct them from the equation. Educate the salvageable and you have a loop that runs perfectly with anyone able participating. The world would accelerate. Instead there are chimp outs over pressurising housing benefits and taxes, food stamps etc. People are too entitled to help each other.

Media and film has taught your average user to care only about them self. If they were born 300 years ago then that is extended to your family. 900 years before that it would be your clan/ town.

Overpopulation and huge 'community's do not share the same values, segregation has just caused turf wars since gang rule is so fucked up.

what's the problem with that?

youtube.com/watch?v=rHomETco0MI

>free as in freedom is socialism
>freedom is a bad thing
I would agree that fat penguin man is a borderline commie in his own personal beleifs but he doesn't push that in gnu/linux, i would argue that most in the community who value its principles are populist libertarian anarcho-capitalists, seeing as they value the decisions and rights of the people above all else, want a lazes-faire development community with minimal regulations, and value individuality.

So? You can also pirate software and get it for free, yet devs still make buck from it. Not to mention that youre only forced to give the source to the person who buys the software.

Some of the most popular distros are maintained by private, for-profit companies.

>I believe liberalism works in a civil society, in the real world it's values are abused and overturned.
Indeed, which is why Locke was the first commie.

Yes, and if I want proprietary software, I can just go and pirate it. So its value is $0. :^)

>most of them are part of a foundation that pays them for the work they do
actually, most kernel devs are being paid, and some linux companies (canonical, redhat, etc.) have full time employees working on linux

Install Tiqqum

>I'm choosing to donate money for some tokenistic reason that I don't have to if I don't want to.
You mean you're choosing the price and paying for it of your own volition, as software should be. Free market, free consumer, capitalism :)

Not just this, but for the average normie, it's going to be 1000x easier and more convenient to torrent something than it's going to be to figure out how to compile it. The average person doesn't even know what compiling is.

That guy also ignores the shitloads of various monetization schemes available for free software, and assumes it's solely donation based. As expected of a proprietary cuck.

By this logic Patents are socialists.

Linus and most kernel developers of the Linux kernel are paid by big companies. Only the brainlets work for free

Theory of Bloom or what?

actually no, you cannot make an analogy with open source and political views. Let's do it for the sake of mental gymanastics. Differences of open source with socialism:

promotes elitism: only a few can modify it and change it with permission of the author.

you can sign out anytime: you don't like it? ok, get out and find something else.

more users, better quality: this is a big difference, in a socialist model, more users mean the decadence of the system because it cannot hold and maintain itself, in open source more users, more expert people, better quality.

you actually can earn money: you earn money with open source, the problem is that you have to be very good at what you do and your product must be good too and popular. Because you don't ask for money and you don't obfuscate the code you are more prone to being audited by a lot of people, making your software analysed (and discarded) by a lot of eyes. Communism/Socialism is a close system.

ironically, closed source software is more socialist/communist than open source:

it forces you to follow their rules or get bent
if forces you to comply with every feature they have
you can only modify it with permission that you will never get
modularity is limited, "you are only show what you are allowed to see"
closed elitism: you cannot get into the highest echelon of society unless you get your hands dirty with their hierarchy
a few control the masses
control and spying of their own users because "you must follow our rules"
creates high dependency making almost impossible to sign out

this is the dumbest shit ive ever head. the linux foundation makes shit tons of money and torvalds is mega turbo rich. linux's nonexistent price tag is part of a capitalist business strategy to gain power through market share on the industry side and then get fattened up by companies that use the software.

Your code is actually worthless, companies don't pay programmers by lines of code.

information sharing isn't socialism.

Also this, Linux devs make assloads of cash.

At its core, GNU/Linux is just free of corruption, not capitalism. Competition is one of the biggest cogs in capitalism, it's similarly massive in Loonix land.
Why the would there be so many Linux desktop ricing threads with varying (most of the time) desktop environments if GNU/Linux was such a challenge to customize?
Linux isn't difficult to make your own, and this allows for all sorts of development wars for the best possible user experience.
Because Mac/Windows do not allow this sort of lower level competition, THEY are more socialistic. THEY lack the laze faire economy of Linux in that it IS possible to gain benefit without following strict rules.

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>he thinks all forms of socialism are the same thing
Marx was wrong, and so are you. Linux is a lot closer the Nordic model of Socialism (look it up, gay nigger).

You can sell GPL software, fucktard. Did you even read the licence before making this shitpost? Of course you didn't. Go back to your shitting street.

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>going to restaurants is basically donations because I can compile the salad and breadsticks myself at home
What a fucking retard. That's you. You made a post this fucking dumb. Have your fucking (You)

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Hmm, let's see
>is a bunch of barely working, poorly slapped together systems
>most "innovations" stolen from other OSes
>lack of variety in terms of actually useful software
>gets beaten by capitalistic OSes for the last couple of decades
Rather apt comparison, OP

>>he thinks all forms of socialism are the same thing
>Marx was wrong
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch03.htm
what do you mean?

But does it run on Elbrus III?

>can't tell if the pic he posted is a frowning demon or a lesbian orgy

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> Communist kernel
> Doesn't run on soviet era CPU

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The true redpill is realizing that while capitalism is the best system in our current state of affairs, it is only that way because humanity is still too immature to handle proper socialism. Socialism is the hero we deserve, but not the one we need right now.

The end goal of Socialism is not always communism (see the Nordic model). Communism is a utopia that only a brain dead monkey would be able to delude itself into believing to be possible. The works of Marx show just how out of touch he was with human nature, and just how incapable of any meaningful self reflection he was. I wouldn't expect anything less from a jew.

Wrong and wrong. Socialism is based on previous centuries economic observations. Its all about farming and dividing results. It is highly incompatible with modern societies and industrialization. The key fact is that fortune is something that is created and not a finite material that needs to be equally shared. The day commies understand that simple concept is when said communist is red pilled.

The simple fact that the creator of socialism is a guy who never worked in his life and even lived at the expenses of his wife and friends tells a lot about how accurate and functional his system works.

>The end goal of Socialism is not always communism
that becomes obvious if you had even glanced over the link I posted

It's the opposite. Everything in Linux for the most part is voluntary. Linux promotes Voluntaryism.

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