so ordered my hd6xx on assdrop ordered a magni 2 from schiit already own a fulla 2 for my jbl lsr305s so i can passive volume control, no scratchiness in the pot desu. did i correctly
Jayden Morales
Pretty much this. AKG K702 until my HD6XX arrive early October.
Anthony Allen
wtf is this shit?!
Ayden Barnes
>magni2 + hd6xx You should have used the extra money to get HD600 instead.
Colton Walker
kys
I personally dont like the Fulla amp or DAC functions.
Aune X1S 10th anniversary edition is on massdrop for $200 and is a lot more featured than the shit stack, let alone the fulla 2 + a Magni.
Juan Jackson
>ordered my hd6xx >ordered a magni 2 >already own a fulla 2 How can people still be this moronic in 2018?
Adrian Lopez
What kind of mutt purchases non-driver matched headphones haha
Mason Fisher
i like the fulla functions that i can plug my turn table in line in and it comes directly out my monitors or headphones. the amp is also good for my ships desu.
i got the magni 2 in case the fulla 2 don't pull its weight.
Jaxson Brown
What a bunch of losers lol
Ethan Long
Aune X1S has RCA Line-in input, USB input, optical input, and coaxial input.
As well as having RCA output and 1/4" headphone output.
It would likely do everything you'd need, but hey, you do you man.
Jaxon Rodriguez
Does /hpg/ make their own cables?
I just made 1,5m and fuck long 5m cables for my K712s.
well i've had the fulla 2 for a few months, so a sidegrade doesn't matter much.
Henry Miller
Nice lovelive stickers.
John Ward
>sidegrade
>Fulla 2 DAC >24/92 Amp >40mW into 300ohm
>Aune X1S 10th anniversary DAC >32/384 Amp >200mW into 300ohm.
The X1S isn't a sidegrade, it's literally the bigger better version of the Fulla2, more inputs, more amp power, and a much better DAC.
Kayden Bennett
been a while since I've seen a post from you. Still liking the stax?
Ryder Rogers
maybe i'll buy one later then idk my inputs are my computer and my turntable my outputs are my lsr305s and my headphones. so the fulla 2 does what it's supposed to do well, but a headphone amp might be better, hence why i got a magni 2 for like 60.
Dylan Murphy
Wait, so you plan on just throwing your Magni 2 on the headphone output of the Fulla 2 and still have your speakers on the line-out of the Fulla 2?
That's gonna sound like garbage, you're double amping.
Benjamin Gray
no no no. the fulla 2 has a passive volume knob, like a control freak. the jbls have white noise at higher volumes, and if i want to adjust i have to dick around behind both of them. the fulla 2 is also a dac, so it's basically my control freak with a dac built in. the magni 2 i'll plug in the line out of the fulla 2, so it gets just pure dac signal as well.
Cameron Reed
So what are the JBLs gonna be plugged into?
Or are you just gonna be switching back and forth manually?
Though it's pretty shitty so that is probably contributing to the white noise he mentioned.
Liam Scott
yeah it gets worse if i plug it in. it's inaudible unless i really cram my face into the speakers though. at a higher volume just plugged in, but not in the dac, it'll be very noticible and if plugged into the fulla 2 it'll be exacerbated.
Julian Gutierrez
do you measure dac performance in sampling rate? are you retarded?
Chase Taylor
No, but considering the Fulla 2 uses the cheap as fuck AKM AK4490 DAC chip, and the Aune X1S uses the Sabre ES9018K2M DAC chip, I can safely say the Aune is better.
James Powell
even if there is a difference it should be not audible but maybe it is because Schiit products are total garbage and why do you say that aune is good? it cost $300 and has 10 ohm output impedance. what a joke, it's garbage too.
Logan Moore
It's $200 on massdrop and the only reason i'd recommend it right now.
For the HD6XX especially which are 300ohm and give no fucks to a 10 ohm output impedance.
At $300 it's a rip off, at $200 it's better than the Schiit stack or the JDS O2+ODAC
Julian Myers
how is it better than JDS O2+ODAC? it's worse for sure because of its OI
Luke Perez
I'm talking about for the HD6XX, if you have some IEMs or something that requires lower output impedance there are other options out there.
But for HD6XX, the Aune has more power at 300ohm and allows for more EQ headroom, it also has a higher resolution DAC, and more inputs/outputs than the O2+ODAC.
Not to mention, you don't have to pay for stupid "upgrades" like having the power adapter rear mounted, or other shit that should be free.
Logan Brooks
i want to nakadashi mio
Josiah Smith
o2 power is more than enough to apply eq on hd650 and have headroom "higher resolution DAC" is useless do you own aune x1s?
Juan Sullivan
Nope, I have the Schiit stack (original Modi and original Magni), and a Schiit SYS to control my speaker volume.
William Lopez
Sabre sounds thin and shrill. Now swap that Aune for Ifi dac and experience glorious Burr-Brown sound.
Colton James
The only comparable ifi is the Micro iDSD BL at a cool $600, it's $400 more expensive than the Aune X1S is on massdrop currently.
Year after year Schiit proves they simply can't produce a high end product. And year after year they get shilled here incessantly anyway.
Asher Anderson
jotunheim != fulla/modi/magni my one regret is i heard the magni 2 can't push the hd6xx that well compared to a magni 3, but i also heard the fulla 2 kinda can and the magni 2 is basically the same as the 3 but a bit less good so i really have no idea what to do. i'll just compromise and save the 30 bananas.
Robert Young
Does the Harman How to Listen software actually correlate with how discerning your ears are? I think I'm pretty bad at this, but I don't know what I'm supposed to be getting.
what are you talking about? fulla 2 is total garbage, modi 2 is garbage
magni models have typically low schiit quality control and if they break then good luck with schiit customer service because it's awful
Nolan Mitchell
The Magni 2 can do 260mW at 300ohm, that's way more than the HD6XX need.
Depending on the music you listen to you wont even need more than ~50-60mW.
With classical recordings you may need double that or even more for certain pieces, but for most modern music, you'll have no issues at all with a Magni 2, and the Fulla 2 could probably do an okay job, but it'd probably be turned up almost to full most of the time, if not all the way.
lol yeah so i should be good then desu. most of what i've heard is "it's good but not great." i'll just line out from the fulla 2 to the magni 2 then. already ordered it anyways.
Alexander Cooper
ironically i got b grade which can sometimes mean getting a better QAed refurb. it's like buying used golf clubs. if they certified a refurb it must have worked and your driver won't lose its head.
>How can Ifi's dacs support 32-bit audio? this is what iFi said in response to this on headfi.
>It was the result of excellent work done at Burr-Brown Japan before it became TI and was meant to be used in High End universal disk players with excellent performance for CD replay, Audio-DVD and SACD. Unlike most newer Chips from TI and many others, it retains a true multibit core for PCM replay, based on the visionary (and under-appreciated) PCM69 AND it retains Burr-Brown’s unique and excellent approach to DSD replay, first introduced with the DSD1700 Chip.
>What this means in practice is that the DSD Stream only passes an analogue lowpass filter, there is no up-conversion or data manipulation applied at all. Very few DAC Chips available today allow for this.
>Further, with this chip we retain a true Multibit PCM Core, true, only the upper 6 Bits are converted using multibit conversion, while anything below the top 6 Bits goes through a 256FS low order delta sigma modulator, in many ways this particular configuration is the best arrangement currently available, short of using a true 32 Bit Multibit DAC, which realistically speaking does not exist (yet).
>Budget: ~$100 >Location: USA >Source: PC >Type of headphone: On-ear >Closed >Comfort level: High, I'll be wearing them for hours at a time >Sound signature: V-shaped >Past headphones: Shitty earbuds
Looking for something for my first real PC, ideally suited for listening to classical music
Ayden Gray
>150 for an ifi iDSD Nano non-BL >expensive if I had low-fi garbage, sure that'd be great.
Good luck getting decent sound levels with an HD650 from that, it only provides 130mW at 16 ohm, how the fuck will it provide 50mW+ at 300 ohm?
Ryan Ramirez
Also, looking for something warm, preferably
Josiah Flores
>on ear closed >high comfort Not many here are going to have experience with these. I'd suggest you look at Innerfidelity's wall of fame.
Luis Morales
This loser can't even take a picture of his nerd gear haha
>i like mid-fi headphones better than mid-fi headphones >should I buy mid-fi headphones?
idk user, tough choice
Jaxon Thompson
sorry, HD 579
Isaiah Scott
kek. I want something a little better looking than my HD 518, but I don't like closed-back cans or V-shaped sound profiles (at least from what I've tried).
Jayden Gomez
Should be fine, but you'll more than likely end up wanting to upgrade to HD600
Dominic Lee
>claims ifi is too expensive >but not expensive enough to power his cans
what did user mean by this?
Jose Bailey
buy stax or colorware
Nathaniel Rivera
I'm complaining that for the price point the power output is minimal, i would need the Micro iDSD at $600. Far more expensive than what other amps that can deliver that power go for.
Sure, it's good quality, but I can get very similar specs for half the price.
Cameron Wright
You sure Nano BL isn't enough for your 650s?
Joshua Rodriguez
the Nano BL is just barely enough if you listen to modern music, but I listen to mainly orchestral and opera, where in many cases you simply need more volume, especially in pieces with pizzicato or sections etc.
I KNOW that I need at least 100mW at 300ohm, and for EQ room, i'd prefer 150mW to give myself headroom.
The Nano BL provides 40mW at 300 ohm which again, is good enough for pop and other modern genres, but even then you might not have an EQ room depending how you like your EQ and your listening habits.
John Edwards
I have Sennheiser 598, which don't need an amp so I don't own one. I was considering buying higher end headphones that would require an amp/dac. But my I have a high end mother board that claims it has a dac/amp built into it. It says a bunch of things about AMP/DAC like:
"121dB SNR AMP-UP Audio with ALC1220 & High-End ESS SABRE 9018 DAC with WIMA audio capacitors".
My motherboard is the "Z370 AORUS Gaming 7" But would it be good enough for something like the HD600 or better? Idk if its an actual helpful feature of my mobo or its just buzzword gimick trash, meaning i would have to buy an amp aswell.
>ALC1220 can't find any solid specs on it, but assuming it has the same output power as the ALC1150, then it's not gonna be great for anything powerful.
That being said, HD598 are probably fine, HD600+ i'd say you need an amp.
Bentley Morris
The regular iDSD Micro is 450 brand new, and around 300 on eBay.
Also, what DAC + Amp. combo is going to give you near Mojo performance for less? Do you really think that the iDSD is just an amp?
I own it and a pair of Senn. cans and it definitely lifts the veil. Yeah, it isn't the Mojo but everyone hitches about Mojo build quality and support on Head-Fi, the literal shill website for Chord electronics.
What are we supposed to suggest, the RHA dual chip with that stupid proprietary balanced-out.?
Sennheiser HD 558 or 579? 558 is cheaper so that's a plus to start off with. They also apparently have a more spacious sound. Bass is supposed to be stronger with those too, but I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing. Any thoughts?
imo 558 are better and there is a really easy foam removal mod that makes them even better.
Jace Gonzalez
i think the 579 has an updated driver and better looks, but use the 558 has a eq preset by metal571 which makes it sound so much better youtube.com/watch?v=hrZuDtKIWJc
Lincoln Martinez
Anyone wanna talk me out of buying LCD-2 Classics or is it a good choice for the price?
Christopher Morris
Just got a pair of EL-8.
Not worth it. They sounds incredible, but planars aren't meant for living, breathing people. Look up crinkling and shit Audeze QA. Support is nice though.
They're 100% onions but they're nice.
Mason Morales
Yeah I’ve heard the QA has been a problem too which is why I have reservations.
Have a pir if m50x and the speaker in one side doesn’t work, what’s the general troubleshooting process for these things? No sound at all
Jason Taylor
>Budget $700AUD >Location Australia >Type of headphone 1990, lcd2c, Dt770 250, HD600 looking for a singe ended amp, source is a Topping D50.
Asher Garcia
I have had both, the 2c is more detailed, but the thx00 is more fun and punchy.
Cooper Foster
The driver on planars is so thin that its always adjusting to different air pressure and this causes crinkling.
It's great for keeping you head perfectly still in a perfectly quiet and soundproofed studio while holding your breath for 5 seconds to hear all the details in 5 seconds of a track, but that's it.
They are pretty honest about their leather nonsense. They introduced vegan pads which completely outperformed leather and protein leather (eggshells?), but they last too long and don't use them on the new iSine crap.
Protein leather is almost as bad as leather, wearing out immediately, so they use it to make you rebuy more often.