Did the US government pay Intel to design the Spectre backdoors intentionally, then allowed it to establish a monopoly over AMD in order to enhance its cyber espionage capabilities against other countries?
Intel
Matthew Moore
Cameron Scott
AMD CPUs are perfectly viable for high end builds, and budget builds. Intel hardly have a monopoly.
Justin Butler
I kept hearing years ago that AMD doesn't have driver support that's as good as Intel, has this ever been true?
Christian Evans
>more power for less performance
The only people buying AMD garbage are poorfags who don't know how to manage money.
Jayden Lopez
retards still don't know how caching works
retards still don't know spectre was literally mentioned in the intel manuals
retards still don't know spectre was literally documented in linux kernel manuals
Jose Edwards
no. AMD's driver support is arguably better than either Intel or Nvidia
FX is dead user.
Levi Diaz
I mean this might not be such a bad thing. Every attack vector should be available against countries like Iran who don't care about human rights, especially to sabotage its nuclear program. But other countries might not like it...
Hunter Collins
I've always liked intel processors for laptops and power efficient applications. While intel makes beastly desktop processors, being 10-15% better does not justify dropping $800 extra. If you're just running games, it's elitist to think you need a $1200 CPU to achieve nearly identical performance to a top end AMD chip.
Daniel Lopez
Haha that's a whacky theory user you're a real jokester! But seriously you should delete this thread if you know what's good for you.
Luis Evans
No. Intel's exploits were there due to laziness in design. Intel had a monopoly long before Spectre influenced their CPUs. Intel's design is out of pure laziness.
The fact so few of these affect AMD just shows how much better AMD is at designing CPU architectures. The last time Intel truly innovated in the CPU market was in the late 1970s when they invented x86.
Just about every other major CPU advancement has been from AMD.
First 1Ghz CPU? AMD
First 64 bit CPU? AMD
First multi-core CPU? AMD
And even with FX, they were innovating, like with the "core parking" tech, which is still included in Ryzen
AMD is unafraid to innovate and take risks. That's how you progress. If Intel had their way, we'd all still be using Pentium 4's
Chase Fisher
If you wanted a government backdoor Spectre is a really terrible one. It's also very easy to see how it arose from the search for greater performance, side channel timing attacks are basically inevitable if you go for max speed. The Intel Management Engine and AMD Platform Security Processor are a far better idea for a backdoor than something which only leads you steal data, and incredibly slowly, and only if you can already execute some code on the machine (such as through a VM or browser).
Wyatt Cooper
Probably not, but that's the way it's going to look.
Gavin Phillips
So when will AMD/Intel release new CPUs without any of these exploits in them? Got a 2500K so not in any hurry.
Evan Collins
No idea where you heard this, but it's complete bullshit. AMD drivers are solid as fuck.
Ian Rivera
For AMD, Zen 2 launching next year.
For Intel? When they finally create an all-new CPU architecture. The current architecture dates back to the Pentium 3 mobile CPUs.
Cooper Flores
>the united states cares about human rights
Ha ha, good joke.
Jace Morgan
This. If we cared about human rights, we wouldn't be buddy-buddy with Saudi Arabia, blockading Syria or supporting 75% of the world's dictators.
David Reyes
They don't need it when they can just backdoor the BIOS and make anything of the IBM PC variety backdoored.
Cameron Wilson
My AMD CPU is affected by Spectre, same with ARM and other CPUs.
Nicholas Turner
The good thing about AMD in this situation is it's solvable with software updates. With Intel, it's hard-coded into the chip.
Update your bios and you'll be fine.
Jonathan Bailey
Every US technology company is a front for the spooks. If you haven't realised this by now you are a pure brainlet.
Brody Evans
> He doesn't realize Intel already lost the power efficiency lead vs first generation Ryzen
Ryder Adams
Accurate.
Camden Parker
No shit Sherlock
Noah Butler
Leo Harris
>people actually allow shady javascript to run in their browser, thus letting spectre do its thing
In a perfect world nobody would even use Intel products, but for now a little common sense goes a long way.
Wyatt Cook
But this is not a perfect world...
David Gutierrez
Same beer? Same.. show?
Jeremiah Turner
Yes. You did it OP. You figured it out.
Eli Harris
No but companies who comply with the surveillance state receive backdoor tax exemptions. The inflated IT sector keeps growing more than any other country's IT sector (currently constituting 21% of the ENTIRE US market cap, far more than even the financial market cap, something not seen anywhere else in the world) while the US government gets to spy on literally everyone, two wins for the US government, one win for the IT sector and a massive loss for the average Joe.
Basically think of the modern US as the Kingdom of France, but instead of the three estates being clergy, nobles and commoners they're now IT, Finance and commoners. The IT estate is pulling a cooperative corruption where they provide otherwise-unlawful things to the government in turn of other unlawful favors and also getting absurd state-backed extortion of "profits" under the pretense of Intellectual Property, at the expense of commoners and their precious data and liberty to share information freely, while the Finance estate retains immunity of their assets by becoming "too big to fail", state or fed-backed subsidies (what they tend to call "QE") and perpetual low taxes, again at the full expense of the commoners.
It's interesting to watch how far are they going to be able to push this before history inevitably repeats itself en.wikipedia.org
Josiah Wood
> Intel is owned by Israeli
> LARP mentions Iran as a problem
Jew detected, your opinion was discarded. Please don't shill around here.
Grayson Gomez
Iran has probably more human rights than your stolen country you filthy jew
Henry Martin
Coffeelake has an ipc advantage+ 1000 mhz higher max clock compared to Pinnacle Ridge in addition to being able to run up to 4800mhz CL17 ( Maximus X Apex + 8700K at computex 2018 )
Dylan Adams
Noah Butler
Probably, but I think you mean Israel.