Microsoft

>Windows has been shit for a decade
>Skype is dead
>Xbox is dead
>Edge is irrelevant
They have all the resources in the world, yet they cant for the life of them write good software. what went wrong?

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Because it is impossible to write good software. Programming is futile.

Legacy of galactic scale

Kill the legacy; kill their platform
and everyone will collapse into android tier OEM linux releases.

At least Windows can install fucking Adobe Flash Player without having to LE SUDO CHROOT DD SYSHACKS and troubleshooting for 8 hours on end you Lelnux commie

You're quite biggoted to suggest that Indian innovation and software development isn't "good." You're a racist, and your people are going to be replaced, glhf 10 years from now when you have no CS jobs because India will take you over gladly as a new world superpower.

No idea. They threw a bunch of money at Azure too, yet the UI/UX is horrendous. Even 10 pajeets working for 200$/month would write a better UI

I hate Microsoft too but that's wrong.
- Microsoft owns atom visual Studio code and github
- kingdorm hearts 3 tech demo runs on xbox (the one with real 4k) because it is state of the art console

okay and here is the flop list:
- windows 10
- we love linux
- we love open source
- install kali linux as a snap flatpak from win10 store

>windows has a discovered a new update and will now restart your PC whether you like it or not, and i dont give a flying fuck if you're busy watching a movie or playing video games
i wonder if this ever happens to Bill Gates and if he then thinks to himself "yes, this is good"

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You're lazy, and don't read about upcoming updates via the simple RSS feed interface they have setup telling you when a new update is arriving and what it is for. That way you can make time for the Update and be sure to get everything as needed when required. Updates keep your computer safe from malicious attacks, and save you the hasstle of having to get your machine repaired through your OEM after you are attacked randomly for watching porn on an unsafe website.

Chrome has it by default

fire the pajeets

A mountain of legacy software and a horde of pajeet yes-men.

It tries to update systems at the worst time possible, especially when you are trying to do critical work. Or it hogs up the network bandwidth to a point that everything else is completely unusable.

Linux does not have this problem.

dude, my desktop is on every day and always connected to the internet and I have yet to see a forced update from W10

>flash player
Literal malware. And installing flash is as simple as extracting an archive into a folder.

30 years of more and more shitcode piled on each other.
At least it prevents normies from using a 15 year old version of OS

I haven't used this meme in years, so here we go:
>2018
>flash player

i have never seen microsoft accounts work correctly which sucks because every university uses outlook.com, like they fucking scramble windows, outlook, office, xbox, and skype passwords at random so only half the shit works, and all these have business/personal versions picked at random when you login

>windows has warned you it needs to install security updates for 3 months but you keep clicking "not now, i want to get infected with ransomware so i can blame M$ for not protecting me xD", so now it forces you to install it because you're too brain dead to do it
Fixed.

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Microsoft is what killed all of them by trying to do more than what is necessary. They do this to fool people into thinking that something is better just because it's new but that's not always the case such as with win7 and win10.

id rather risk getting ransomware than have my OS not respect me

This is exactly why W10 updates needed to be forced on you brainlet retards.

Windows Server is built for rendering, there's nothing you need to render on a desktop-class machine, Windows Server is designed not to update without permission because of this. Windows 10 is designed for casual use, like office (which autosaves everything), like web browsing, or using Windows applications through the Windows store, which autosaves for updates as well. The whole ecosystem is designed for non-intensive workloads. Get with the system, and stick to it, learn about Windows and your experience should be uninterrupted. Make time for updates to keep yourself safe, learn about upcoming updates, their purpose, and when the system will detect an update and plan your use around that.

this is linux-user-tier coping

Define good
theres the good Jow Forumsentoomen would want
then theres the good that niggercattle want

>OS should disobey users
>OS should control users instead of other way around
no, fucking kill yourself you imbecile

Your OS respects that you're retarded, so it's handling the security for you since you're clearly too incompetent to handle it yourself.

>le security iz bad cuz it takes 5 minutes away from my 3am minecraft marathon xD
no, fucking kill yourself you imbecile

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Windows is at it's peak.
Microsoft is buying many interesting game development studios (Microsoft Studios) and had the best E3 conference this year.
Visual Studio and VS Code are top tier pieces of software.
Microsoft is actively supporting open source community.

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>Windows has been shit for a decade
What are you talking about? Windows 7 is perfect.

this

>normie retards don't know shit about technology and don't manually update windows
>not updating windows causes it to be more prone to catching a virus
>normie retards catches a virus and sues Microsoft
gee I wonder why would force everybody to update

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i thought windows 7 was older than that. thanks, now i feel a bit younger

>They're kind enough to let you plan your life around their updates
How nice. I had mine update for a full day, then fail, then update for another full day while I was trying to write a thesis over the weekend. That was great.

Windows 10 is the worst thing ever, and I curse every pajeet who worked on it.

If I'm actively prevented from controlling when and how updates are applied to my system, by my system, the system is shit. Fuck off with your aplogetics

It always blows my mind how people who clearly haven’t used linux are convinced it’s too difficult to even try. It isn’t even complicated, have some confidence in yourself

Next year gets 10 years old.

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Security. It’s great and all. But it can fucking wait 30 minutes because I’m leaving for work soon and need to get this done right now. Windows, the “professional’s” OS, says no you need to update first. Fuck your job.
It isn’t like they say hey we’re going to restart soon. Delay or no? They just straight up hijack your machine at boot time and shutdown. Or in the middle of a project, they don’t care. They simply say YES we are restarting in 10 minutes. Get fucked.
Watch the video of someone halfway through rending video who gets told a reboot is coming in 10 minutes whether he likes it or not. Couldn’t even save. This is like DOS all over again, updates are the new blue screen.

Their core business (desktop operating systems and applications) become more and more irrelevant. This is good news for our GNE/Linux community since the year of the Linux desktop will eventually arrive one day, the bad news is no one but a few nerds will care about desktop computers at that point.

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It’s literally a 3 click process to install flash.

>Adobe Flash Player
what year is it?

Based what year is it poster

They've really fucked up badly in recent years.

Visual Studio crashes more than ever and has been performing worse since ~2013. I'm on VS2017 (pro or ent I can't remember) and for like 8 months it would just randomly start using 70% of my cpu. Many people had this problem and they just finally fixed it like a week ago. It still freezes or crashes frequently.

Office 365 is literal garbage and I really wish there was a decent alternative. The settings don't stick, outlook crashes almost daily, parts of the interface are objectively inferior to older versions. You still can't even open two files with the same name in excel. Skype for business (aka Lync) is arguably some of the worse software ever written.

I'm fairly convinced they laid off a lot of their testers in regards to windows 10. Insiders alpha test it, home users beta test it, pro users also beta test it because it's still an unstable mess, and finally by the time you get to ent it's usable. The documentation is garbage and often wrong, not version specific, or non-existent. There are a laughable number of "help" links both integrated in windows 10 and on microsoft's own site that lead to pages that don't even exist.

Honestly I don't think it's going to get better anytime soon.

>There are a laughable number of "help" links both integrated in windows 10 and on microsoft's own site that lead to pages that don't even exist.
Is there any such thing as a software vendor that has outstanding help/documentation? I've never encountered a company that had documentation that I felt was satisfactory. Google still has outdated links for some of their web services that have either been overhauled or merged with other services dating back as far as 2010.

>using flash in 2018
lmao

but why would you use an os which looks like dos? it's 2018 ffs

I don't use it so it's 'dead' lel

adobe.com/support/flashplayer/debug_downloads.html
$ tar xvf flash-debug-player-linux64-13.37.tar.whatever
$ flash-debug-player ~/path/to/meme/game.swf
Holy fuck, I guess I'm a hacker AND a commie. Babushka, get the camera!

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god i wish that were me

about a year ago visual studio introduced a change that prevented certain older solution files from opening without making a change in the file that permanently broke backwards compatibility
it was then that i knew microsoft was fully in panjeet's grasp

> Chrome

As shitty as Windows is, Linux is even shittier.

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Corporate and their income would say otherwise

gates and ballmer were integral to microsoft's direction, they didn't always go the right way, but they had ambition

kys shill

You're not incorrect although it's pro-Microsoft and that's not popular. However, Microsoft isn't "Microsoft - as it's been known" for the last thirty years is largely dead. Long live Microsoft. Kek.

>they are not browsing z0r.de

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> so cheap on short-term profits that they'd rather hire indian subcontractors (Tata, HCL, etc) than letting the locals start with lower pay and move up in the company
> company is still full of yes-men who won't stand up for any significant changes
> no major consumer competition besides Apple
> no major enterprise competition since OS/2
> no competition so they don't need to do shit to make money
>government has bigger problems at the moment than regulating MS, so MS gets a pass for the time being
> XBOX is still alive in the edgy CoD 13 year old group
> Skype is kinda alive for business (mostly the brand, though)
> Edge was never released on more desktop platforms so it was DOA
> still super siloed so no communication happens
Source: I live right next to the campus.

I heard rumors around Seattle that MSFT fired their entire testing division to save money.

sir can u ples delete these posting?

>tfw installed windows 10 yesterday

>At least it prevents normies from using a 15 year old version of OS
This is probably the primary reason for forced updates.

This is what normies did before forced updates:
>install windows
>never update it
>2 years later your PC is infected with malware.
>"Virus? Whoa, windows is such a shit OS. Fuck Microsoft."
Forced updates exist to keep normies safe because normies are too stupid and/or lazy to care for themselves.

Completely agree! Updates on 10 costs me soooooo many hours.....its not even funny anymore. Normies got no chance to not dfuck it up...its taking too long I'll power it down.

They bought GitHub dude. They did noting to create it

>microsoft own github
Who here thinks that GitHub will be worse and worse as the time goes by?

I have Windows server as well. It's more manageable. Windows on desktop is a nightmare to manage

I dislike Microsoft but that is absolutely wrong

>Typescript
>VS Code
>All their cloud services

Windows is a piece of shit, and their endeavors into the gaming industry hasn't been relevant for nearly a decade, but they're just a puny part of their whole operation.
They made big bet on cloud computing, and they're already making big $$$ for it.
Not to mention they've started appreciating open source.

This even their Hyper-V is good now well in a cost-benefit analysis

Been using Visual studio while learning to code what exactly is Visual Studio Code is it basically like a text editor and how is it different from VS

>>Windows has been shit for a decade
it called milking a monopoly, MS makes money by forcing OS upgrades that no one wants
>>Skype is dead
they dont make money off Skype
>>Xbox is dead
MS doesnt make money directly by gaming, they indirectly make money by people who game using their OS
>>Edge is irrelevant
they actually have competition in the browser market, MS cant compete against actual competition

MS is dying the same way Java is.

Cheap foreign labour.
Duh.

10/10

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>Office 365 is literal garbage
Office 16 is a fucking nightmare too. It's so fucking broken.

Have you used Azure? The whole flow and interface is crap. MS throws money at a problem and can't even make it work properly.

you and me both, buddy

pill me on this

It's fine, if having 4GB of RAM is fine

mah African American, perfect time killer

Cuz nutella and pajeets.

What the fuck is all this anti Microsoft shilling. The windows platform is better than ever. .NET is open source and cross platform. Vscode is easily the most popular text and code editor on any platform now. Also, faggots in this thread who are shitting on vs2017 need to realize it's basically the America of IDEs. You can be salty about it all day, but it's the best option out there by light-years, and generally a fun experience if you aren't a poor fag on a slow rig.

My hdd is so full that there is no room to download updates.

when apache openoffice is a better imitation of old Microsoft Word, M$ has clearly lost its way

>What the fuck is all this anti Microsoft shilling
>shilling
hey faggot
go poo in loo before you install gentoo
this is typical Jow Forums

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Microsoft mostly cares about maintaining its monopoly position in government and corporate markers, lock them down and you can milk them forever.

>brand value
>most valuable companies
retardation

I'd choose Code::Blocks or any text editor over VS any day.

This.

While I hate all cloud provider's UI/UX, including Azure Portal's UI/UX for one reason or another, Azure has arguably been the best compromise in terms of
- feature availability (Digital Ocean sucks at this)
- feature accessibility (AWS sucks at this)
- looks (AWS is worse, Digital Ocean is better)

I mean, look at this dashboard.
>pic related
I don't have any machines up on Azure right now, so not much to see. If I did, however, I would be able to place live graphs of bandwidth, storage and CPU usages here, to quickly see how the machine is doing.

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>help links
what help links? you just get referred to the same generic page

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you either compete and improve, or you get fat and stagnate

>I'm fairly convinced they laid off a lot of their testers in regards to windows 10.
Developers themselves are the only testers before it hits insiders

Windows 10 pro is a godlike OS.

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Bill Gates uses a Mac at home.

Microsoft is too big to improve. They have a near monopoly on the market with no serious competition (Mac fills a small niche.)

So Microsoft has no incentive to improve when they can just keep shitting out garbage and people will just put up with it. On top of that, you have absolute faggot Microsoft fanboys like this retard who defend every single thing Microsoft does