Job out of college

>job out of college
>100k as a low-level developer doing things no one ever has
>enjoy my job, everyone at work is redpilled while maintaining a sense of actual gender equality.

meanwhile in high level positions:
>doing craigslist website gigs for 50 dollars/site
>"coding" (see: reading up on APIs and shit someone's already done)
>60-70k starting out of college

if you dont want pajeets, office politics, girls who code, and anything in between, go to low level. I swear to god you are all just being cucked by the coding boot camps if you dont.

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>everyone at work is redpilled while maintaining a sense of actual gender equality
you don't know what redpilled means

>tfw starting 70k out of college

100k is a meme

if he's in the bay area 100k starting sounds par for the course, of course you will still be fucked in the ass by rent, taxes, and other living expenses

>tfw strictly a high-level developer

I have my reasons.

san diego

where is blue collar work on that list? I have a degree in network Admin and don't use it. But I make $60k a year driving a fork life in a warehouse. I'm certified to handle chemicals and flammable shit so I could literally walk into any warehouse and start at $50k a year.
>inb4 hurr wageslave
All my friends work in IT from programming to a bunch of other shit. They all make more money than me and yet they're all fucking miserable whenever we get together for drinks. My blue collar job is comfy.

Honestly, what works for you, works for you. Having a solid trade that you like is better then hoping on a trendy-bullshit job that you hate.

have fun paying double taxes next year since state income tax is no longer deductible

painfully accurate picrel

I make 50k out of college in an area where the average household income is 29k.

Am I doing okay bros?

>100k as a low level developer
Kek. I get 200k a year writing ReactJS web apps.

Entitled millennials complaining about a 60+k salary.

You dumb fucks get a great salary and are living in a great economy. What the fuck do you have to complain about? You do know the average American peaks at 45k
Yes.

What if I work for Comcast in tech support. What tier is that?

I make $450k/yr fresh out of college. My company also gives us complementary escorts every friday, guaranteed STD free!

Yeah but you end up with more extra cash in the end, and the price of consumer goods is still the same as every where else in the US.

>pajeets, office politics, girls who code, and anything in between

Or just avoid front-end, that tends to be their mating hive. Tbh I don't mind them at all, its just when the "ends justify the means" crowd who feel like gender/racial equality is more important than the guy or gal or is competent for the job, that 's when walk away

I am not complaining about my salary. I just think 100k is a meme, as no one outside CA makes that much

>He doesn't lift and get mad swole
>He doesn't bang the girls who code
it's too early to laugh at you.

>work in embedded
>five years
>never had a female coworker in my dept
Gender equality is a meme faggot.

Except for people in Washington, New York, Massachusetts, Pennslyvania, Colorado, Texas, and Florida.

Where its so expensive that the difference is nullified.

>15k in extra rent per year for a 100k more income
>REEE SO EXPENSIVE!!!

>Where its so expensive that the difference is nullified.
>Texas, Florida, Colorado

I'm laughing at you.

I'm a software dev in Chicago fresh out of college and making 90k salary, with ~10-15k bonus

How big is your boss's cock?

And what exactly is a "high level" and "low level" developer

Why are kids on Jow Forums...oh never mind.

Actually trades is god tier. As an industrial pipefitter there is always work and good money, not to mention household plumbing is a piece of cake if I need to fix anything too.

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>Go to Jow Forums
>Most people think I'm a nigger faggot because I don't use Gentoo
>Go to work
>People think I'm amazing because I know how to create shortcuts to a network drive
This really isn't an exaggeration. I get to meet people that really like me, and I make lots of money, and I get cool benefits like health insurance and a phone. Can you blame me for wanting to be a wage cuck? I don't think you can feel that level of appreciation without financial sacrifice if you are on the internet with no job. You wish people liked you too, right anons?

>finding job as low level dev at all
lucky you

No u

450k? Pppffttt. I bet the escorts are not even underage too.

The founding principle here is that the more difficult the work is for others to do, the more you will get paid to do it. Shoveling garbage sucks, but everyone *could* do it. Low-level coding is difficult, not everyone can do it, so more valuable. This applies in many other scenarios.

I got my first ever raise today, feelsgoodman

Embedded developer reporting in. It pays shit compared to web dev jobs. Don't be memed, Jow Forums. You go into embedded because you like it, not because your career aspects are going to be awesome (because they're not).

>if you dont want pajeets, office politics, girls who code, and anything in between, go to low level. I swear to god you are all just being cucked by the coding boot camps if you dont.

Had similar experience. Worked in low level and was earning shit ton of cash then after some time went with the majority of "what people want" and just did back end development where my wage was literally 300 euro equivalent dog shit with fixed time. Now I do metal working (mostly welding) for over 5 times as much and I get to travel into other countries for work and even code robotic,CNC,etc. tools.

>reasons
You don't have reasons, only excuses.

I'd rather take my lowly $70k job and still function well at the age of 60 than earn $140 and be completely destroyed at 50.

Yeah but site work is shit work even if there is good money to be made. Now site management, that is a different beast.

>meanwhile, i have a phd in pure math
>300k starting
>any job i want

>You go into embedded because you like it
*because there are no women in it
ftfy

What are your tips for embedded? Soon is my first work day. Any websites, literature?

The only tip you need to is not do it.

based pre-newfag

>Graduate College
>Most of us going to end up working retail/fast food/warehouse etc anyway because those the only jobs out there.

You know that low level/embedded programmers make on average less than typical Java pajeets, right?

I have no skills. My every friend is working, and I am the only one who does not.

Don’t stay there too long. Start learning skills for a different area of tech right now. You will not learn anything relevant at that job.

kindly exit the board

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>And what exactly is a "high level" and "low level" developer
Bump for answers

>engieerning

That's just silicon valley

High Level and Low Level languages. Google it.

chris?

People in my city start at 40 - 60k. Its cheap to live here and the uni is cheap so they dont really deserve more

what state ?

Florida. Taxes are low here too so you actually keep your money

Fuck really?
I need to get the fuck out of here.
How's coastal Oregon? I like the cold and rain.
t. SanDiego County resident

There's a female who does computer hardware design/analysis in my company. She's not bad looking either. Has a hard time interacting with people though; like she's not sure how to interject or start a conversation, or is too worried about responding awkwardly that she misses the timing and then continues the non-interaction in shame-awkwardism.

>Florida. Taxes are low here too so you actually keep your money
Based. Pay is lower than CA, but cost is WAY fucking lower!

That's a shame. I pretty much struggle with this kinda stuff but when I want to come across as friendly I just make sure to be confident and smile. Despite my inability to generate the correct facial and tonal response in every day communication, I think that I'm pretty good about recognizing the emotions of others. At least if I act like I understand theirs, they may not understand me but they at least know that I have good intentions.

From the point of view of someone like that(the lady at your work) they may feel that they need to be validated because they feel as though they may be a burden onto others or simply not fit in.
The wrong thing to do is be too nice, as it's usually obvious and off putting. Most loners, as it may be, have a strange bloated sense of pride and tend to refuse charity from those who they deem better than them. What they really want to see is to be treated as an equal.
Part of their insecurity comes from distrust, if they see that you want to help them in a group situation then they may view it as a spectacle being made out of them. What I mean by that is this: The loner obviously knows when someone is trying to help them; however, because whoever is trying to help them knows that they are uncomfortable with social situations they view it as an inflation of the helper's "kindheartedness". The loner views this public spectacle of help in an ironic sense that they are not actually being helped, but by being confronted in a public instance that others besides the helper and the loner may view the helper as good, taking attention away from the loner and again, building distrust in the loner.

The correct way to help someone who has this introversion is to talk normally to them one on one at appropriate times without any mention to their situation at all, because if they are treated as though they are like everyone else, they will begin to behave like everyone else.

>Learning MVC
>Not in school
>Dad has bachelors in comp sci, gunna work in his office space while he gets me work and I do it. Will pose as the guy doing the work and help me with anything too tough.
>70k a year starting
>MVC is really simple, SQL Server doesn't seem incredibly hard either, probably won't take longer than a month or two to get down studying everyday

Do people really pay 70 to 100 grand a year for what seems this simple? Is a bachelors really a fucking meme that just prevents people from working cause "Muh piece of paper?"

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meanwhile i write on c++ for $235 / month, 40 hours a week

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what exactly do you code, and where do you live?

>and a phone
That part is obviously a trick to make you more available, user. Don't fall for it.
Also, don't mistake coworkers with friends.

third world
different outsource projects, mainly telecom

The Virgin pickup artist
>H... Hey... Wanna go get a c-coffee?
The Chad Koder
>Code... cd... Cd code code... cd code CD CD...

What was your major? CS meme degree student and embedded/IoT always send super fun to me. Also what languages?

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real version

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High level developers have a CS skillcape

~$0.97 an hour
Wat

fuck that noise, unless you are being paid to write "hello world" over and over, get out and soon. No me but I know someone who's paid that a day.

Absolute Pajeet.

Don't you love executing nonfree Javascript on unsuspecting computers?

Thank god you only need low-level code in low-margin settings (i.e. where computing cost is similar to programmer cost).

>t. carpal tunnel syndrome and herniated disc

how dpes one get into low-level development or systems dev

>that boomer who thinks $60k is a lot of money
o i am laffin

my friend pays 2500 for a small two bedroom in hayward

yeah those are good too. schools need to bring up certs and vocational school more(plumping truck driver) but theyre too busy call you a loser if you dont go to uni.High school is a waste of time.I think the only problem will be that eventually those jobs will be automated

>fresh out of uni (MSc)
>95k CHF base + half of that in options
>shitting Scala bollocks
>absolutely patrician team
but
>job too comfy and well-paid to leave and do something interesting
>study in my free time to grow
>sleep for barely 3 hours, catch up on weekends
>no social circle
>too much money for one person, even in this retardedly expensive area
>gf unable to move here, probably sitting on chad's dick right about now
>drowning precious time on anonymous farsi elk-breeding forum desperately trying to feel better about myself by laughing at NEETs
>virgin acne-ridden NEETs are happier than me

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yeah
life is fucking hell and i'd off myself

Not him, but I have an adjustable standing desk, standing mat, vertical mouse, and what is basically a $500 chair - all paid by work.

Companies are a bit more understanding these days AFAIK.

Retard, there's an infinite number of things that are incredibly hard to do, yet nobody's gonna pay you shit for doing them. Simple jobs are sometimes paid better than complex jobs. Figuring out why is left as an exercise for (You)

This is fact.
My first job out of school was doing QA VLSI work for a memory company. Everyone was very professional and did their work. I was able to work from home 3 days a week which was great. Everyone knew their shit and didn’t give you problems. My friends that studied CS and got CS related jobs complained about Indians and how every job outing had to be an Indian restaurant because they’re all vegetarian. Doing engineering pays a bit more but you have to deal with a lot less.

Found the webdev cucks

I make 135K in Charlotte, North Carolina as a software developer and DevOps architect at a financial company. There are plenty of six figure developer jobs outside of California.

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is SRE becoming the new high paying job?

>be me
>graduate with an associates in a trade
>get job in facilities maintence
>make 37k a year in burger land...
>freind offers me job at engineering firm as cad tech with options to to electrical designer
>take it
>work as contractor for local power co
>they have shit tons of money
>bumped up to designer, now 49k a year
>kick ass and take names
>bumped up to designer 2 now 65k a year
>start collecting hours under a PE while getting paid
>lifes good, good job with damn near free education

bonus nachos

>work pays me to drive down pole lines like pic related and pays my room and board

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Working 85 hours a day in my blue collar job lol.

Graduated with BEng, applied to hundreds of jobs, went to a lot of those retarded collective interviews, never got anything. After a couple of years of that, I decide I might as well go back to college for another BEng, but I'm incapable of paying attention to classes anymore and I drop out. I suppose I'm now unemployable in the field I graduated at. Living on entry-level and prole job wages in this shitty 3rd world wasteland is just plain not worth it, let alone if you're past 30. Figured that in order to change my life around, I'd have to first actually want to live, so I make plans to self-medicate but my therapist rats me out, thus effectively sentencing me to commit suicide as soon as my parents are gone. Needless to say, I've been a complete failure socially as well. My only redeeming feature, my high IQ (inb4 whatever) will be as wasted by the world as it was worthless to me. A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

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It sort of is. But that is mostly because you need to know a pretty good amount of system and server / backend programming, but you also need to know a lot of linux / server admin stuff along with a slew of other topics such as CI/CD, orchestration management, infrastructure as code, etc... There aren't many people who want to wear all these different hats, let alone many people who can wear all these different hats.

I think it is also because most of the innovation and improvements lately have been happening in the DevOps / tool-set space and many companies are now realizing this is more important than chasing the latest trendy framework or language of the month.

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If you're so smart, why didn't you find a job?

>Pennsylvania
Tell me your secrets

i just wonder if it'll ever be possible to get a remote job in USA
i suppose the only viable people are those who already have gotten 5+ yrs job experience being senior / lead

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>if i tell myself enough i wont end up in a netbean webdev shit hole it wont happen!

>gender equiality
>redpilled

pick one, söyböy

>quoting MacBeth

you're the absolute fucking worst, no wonder you didn't get hired.

pajeet tier