What can I do with this? After learning python I'm thinking of jumping ship to functional programming. Can it land me a job?
What can I do with this? After learning python I'm thinking of jumping ship to functional programming...
Caleb Torres
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Daniel Phillips
>Can it land me a job?
no
Parker Morris
Just learn Idris. Depended types are the future.
Gabriel Baker
what do you mean by functional programming and why do you think python can't do it
Jeremiah White
obviously you can get a job as a functional programmer just look at nodejs jobs user
Adrian Cruz
i think clojure has a much better chance of graduating from meme-language status
Gavin King
Clojure has been getting people jobs for years but it will never be mainstream
Austin Campbell
and how is that any different from Haskell?
i'm not sure of the differences in syntatic sugar between Haskell and Clojure (i'm an OOP guy so i feel both languages are inherently syntactic North Korea) but Clojure running on the JVM means it is way more portable and sandbox-able, which is a good way to keep the dangers of LISP under control
Brayden Howard
Nobody has ever held down a job while writing Haskell
Owen Flores
fine, good point. i guess i heard some larper dude saying he got paid for writing haskell on Jow Forums, but 0 larpers as professional clojurists. assumed it wasn't larpage at the time; now i know
there is erlang. i know for a fact that some telecom companies use it (it's named after Ericsson iirc). so maybe functional programming has a niche. otherwise it's useless
Leo Nguyen
it will give you a future life of depression looking at everyone else's shit code in crappy languages.
Nicholas Lee
Once you get into the ivory tower you can't leave. You'll be doomed to feel like you're swimming in sewage whenever you're forced to use another language. And what kind of faggot needs a job?
Josiah Morgan
i'd like some fries with my order
Daniel Gutierrez
"Functional programming" is a stupidly broad brush to paint a shitton of different languages with, and just because one functional language has a bright future of industry adoption doesn't mean all the others get to come with it
Like, OOP was the dominant paradigm for like 15 years but did you ever hear of someone getting a job writing Smalltalk?
Jeremiah Price
>did you ever hear of someone getting a job writing Smalltalk?
en.wikipedia.org
It actually had a decent run in the late 80's/early 90's. The language may not be as timeless as C, but it has contributed a lot to the development of design patterns and other high level concepts we take for granted today.
Andrew Miller
>Can it land me a job?
They only use it in finance
Gabriel Powell
Professional clojurist here, AMA
Clojure is a lisp, Haskell is what the M-lisp fags have always dreamt about + a shitload of weird syntax because of the monads and the type system
Can confirm, fintech guys are control freaks, they want to run everything with the absolute certainty that it actually happened - what's better than a purely functional prog lang for that? I'm actually surprised they've not switched to Idris yet
Landon Jenkins
> :-D emoji for someone who actually is a pro
okay, sorry, i don't know what you mean by "what the M-lisp fags have always dreamt about"... am i supposed to know what M-lisp is?
>t. identified as "OOP guy" earlier in thread
Mason Perez
What emoji?
By the way at the beginning of the time - when lisp was still popular - there was a proposal to make a lisp with a syntax that's not just a bunch of parentheses, because they were apparently freaking out the n00bs. It would've been called M-lisp - as opposed to the S-lisp, made up by the (((S-expressions))) . Of course, there is nothing on earth as autistic as a lisp programmer, and so the proposal was just forgotten.
I mentioned it because a lot of concepts proposed for an M-lisp implementation can be found in Haskell as well: for instance, the way the functions are called
Andrew Morris
You need to be familiar with Haskell and FP constructs to do anything in Idris.
Owen Wood
Wire uses Haskell so there's some people getting paid to write it. It's getting some love.
The list of industrial usage on their wiki is clearly outdated.
James Howard
M-expressions were part of McCarthy's original description of Lisp. The earliest Lisp implementations used S-expressions only with M-expressions being intended to be implemented later--but eventually people realized they liked writing and reading Lisp with S-expressions. MLisp was one early implementation that did have M-expressions.
Austin Morris
memeing it on Jow Forums?