What do you genuinely think about the regular workers at apple? Forget corporate bureaucracy

Like the retail workers?

Just your average low-skill workers trying to make more money than they would at target or something. Apparently Genius Bar techs can make up to $30/hr.

What about their programmers?

I don't know much about that field, but apparently they're some of the best compensated in the industry.

Sometimes you have no choice and need the money, eg. for your family.
That's when you work for Applel, Google, MS, Oracle or Facebook.

>These are professional programmers, not amateurs trying to show off.
And your point is?
Why would you get cucked into a contract that regulates how you spend your free time?

The Apple workforce is literally what happens when HR takes over and replaces everyone with diversity hires.

Mega cucks

I know a guy that just got hired by Apple.
He's genuinely one of the smartest people I know, technically speaking, at least.
He says that the whole Cali/west coast thing is his dream lifestyle, and I can't really stop him from being who he is.
It isn't my cup of tea, but whatever.
If Apple is hiring people like him, they're doing something right.

I wouldn't mind shutting the hell up and looking at my own life instead.
Uhh where do you work at or what job positions do you personally find "comfy"?

Sounds awesome. Is the rent very high there or does Apple help one out?

most professional programmers that I know have some kind of side gig going. You would be retarded not to when you can easily make 3x your normal rate freelancing

Yeah, he's moving from the East. They're helping out with the living situation and moving for a whole month.

Poor guys. Objective C + Cocoa is like mental rape.

Let's be honest here, what are the chances of an actually (proven to be) good eastern european programmer getting hired and working in the USA for Apple?

>I wouldn't mind shutting the hell up and looking at my own life instead.
You do that, then.
>Uhh where do you work at or what job positions do you personally find "comfy"?
Places that do actually great software development and that don't tell you what to do with your spare time. Like Jetbrains, Qt Company or smaller parts of MS.

>smaller parts of MS
Such as?

When I said East, I meant Atlanta, just in case.
>what are the chances of an actually (proven to be) good eastern european programmer getting hired and working in the USA for Apple?
I've never met an Eastern European at work, at least one that's on H1B. I've met Euro immigrants that moved here long ago, but their living situation has solidified.
I have worked with European employees though, like foreign workers. I've also worked with European companies, like when our work is contracted out to them.
I'd say that chances of getting hired are slim, but it doesn't hurt to try. Just know that you'd probably be up against a lot of Indians who'd probably work for less.
At the same time though, you'd have the upper hand when it comes to getting your citizenship.

Likely Roslyn dev. Maybe SQL Server.
Specifically not Office, Windows, XBOX, Navision (or whatever their ERP middleware is called these days), Azure.

Can you please explain further?
>work for less
I'd be happy with $700 spare cash past expenses every month. Is that a lot for Americans?

>other user
If you want $700 dollar month, learn Java search freelancer on internet.

I remember some Ukrainian,Belarus p,Hungarians made easy above 1000 per month.

USA is insane expensive $5000 month is begin poor in big cities.

Apple employ a lot Java developer for iCloud services.

I know C, C++, Fortran, some assembly. discrete math and calculus I found the most interesting subjects. I don't want to touch java again, to be quite honest.
>Cloud
That's my last option, I guess.

Why is it so difficult? I just want to work with intelligent people in a serious company.

>$700 spare cash past expenses every month. Is that a lot for Americans?
It's pathetic pocket money here in Bay Area.
t. Slav working at one of the big ones in SV

I'm junior enlisted in the military and I have twice that amount after everything I need is paid for.

How, please teach me your ways. Where do I even begin. I know I am good enough, better than a stinking fucking indian from Durga Soft or whatever.

Source?

I doubt you can enlist in the military, being a foreign national.
I think your key would be getting sponsored by a company to come here, I don't really know how immigration to the US works.

Anyways, as a competent developer you would be making no less than ~50k, which in most parts of the country is very comfortable for a single person.

Wow that's pretty good. So accomodation really is that expensive.
What about that bullshit about $90K java positions?

I've thought about applying for a job there. They seem nice to me. Never really talked to them much

Look of cost of living in different places, compare apartments, food, etc.
All those positions that pay crazy money for "java dev" or some shit are going to be in NYC or San Francisco, which are *stupid* expensive to live in. Unless you're really getting paid, it's usually not worth it.

Hmm, so how does one progress upwards from that?

This, but unironically.

t. used to work for applel

Upwards from where? Meme java dev in SF?
You'd probably want to get hired by one of the big tech companies out there, they pay big money.
Devs are making $200k out there, senior people making $300k-$400k. I don't know much about that world though, as I live in defense IT.

I think you'd do well getting hired as a normal dev elsewhere. Better work/life balance, but hey, you may fall in love with San Francisco.

Thanks for the information pal. I really want to work in a big company. Can you give me some last few tips on integrating into the american lifestyle?

Make some local friends once you get here, and go do things with them. Go out and try to meet people and do activities in local clubs and stuff. Go to the bar/club/pub if that's your thing.
Travel when you can and see other areas of the country.

Best of luck!

I work at an apple retail store as a specialist (sales associate)
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Thanks man. Have a good one and stay safe.

>don't share any of your knowledge for the rest of your days
>that will give us an advantage over other people
>sign here

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How often do bearded male customers offer to pay to suck you off?

I think they must be kind of stupid.

We don't even get very many bearded male customers coming in. Usually fat white ladies desu

Source on those BS claims?

Who wouldn't work there and get them on their resume? Would bump up your base salary for the rest of your career no matter where you went.

What are you talking about, You don't just work at apple for a year and leave for a startup or something.

They have the least poo of all the big tech companies. Indian nepotism is destroying tech ... Apple is the least infected.

Nice colors. Oh wait. Yeah, cucks.

Guys (and gals) used to join an IBM marketing branch and work there for 5 years just to get it on their CV. One year wouldn't be enough.
If you were very good you'd be head-hunted.