How viable is booting from a USB? Does it matter if it's 2.0 or 3.0? I wanna try Linux but I don't want to lose w10

>being autistic

>what is virtual machine

Based leafgirl poster
Just dual boot if you can but if you're just trying out Linux you can use a USB, it'll just have slower read times.

External HDD have slower read/write speed than 5400rpm.

It works fine for just trying out Linux.
Just do it.

>why not?
Because running an OS from a device prone to failure due to prolonged use is setting yourself up for some rude awakening.
It is also rather slow for EVERYTHING you are gonna do.

Dual boot if you want to use it for prolonged amounts, try it for some time from a USB stick.

Or make a fucking partition on your internal disk and install it there.

Pretty viable, though I have only ever done it on OSX and Linux. Supposedly you can do it with a Win10 install too nowadays.

ever wonder if you really belong here?

>Dual boot
sorry for being retarded but how do I do this

t. has no idea what he's talking about

there's a good guide here http bfy (.) tw / JIwN

>How viable is booting from a USB?
we`re back in time? what the fuck, i`ve been trying distros and shiet for like 10 fucking years fron USB.
what the fuck man, what the fucking fuck.

You partition your hard drive and install another operating system on that partition.
There is nothing in the world preventing two operating systems being installed on one hard drive, you can choose which one to boot when starting up.

Surely there are detailed guides if you Google that.

>It is also rather slow for EVERYTHING you are gonna do.

Not really, Maybe the original boot process if you're using some super heavy distro, or launching really huge applications. For typical usage you're not going to notice an extra few milliseconds load time here and there.

Booting from USB will make everything slow.
I have an old laptop from 2009 with a dead HDD, so I put it in our gym as a mini TV booting with Lubuntu from a USB flash drive. Firefox takes around 3 minutes to open, and Twitch or Youtube take a minute to show up.

If you try booting from a usb...
>overheating drive
>low bandwidth
nice try.

>he thinks boot device affects internet speed
hows special ed?

I think it will default to the first installed OS though, right?
And I doubt W10 will provide a boot menu.

ie: won't he have to install Linux before installing Windows 10?

>I think it will default to the first installed OS though, right?
No. You can change that in the BIOS.

>And I doubt W10 will provide a boot menu.
Who cares? Grub or the BIOS can provide such a menu.

>ie: won't he have to install Linux before installing Windows 10?
No.

Are you a hobo, OP?

no I just cant afford another hdd

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read the thread and partition instead of replying to the 1 guy who's fucking with you instead of all the helpful replies?

>>Installer crashes amd cannot continue
>>Try 3 more times
>>Same result at different stages
Are you one of those people that instantly hits 'ok' on error messages instead of actually reading them? Saw my Windows user friend do this a few times once before I finally said "stop clicking that, let me read what it says", and then I helped him fix the problem.

You don't need multiple hard drives, you can split up the space and boot either OS when your computer turns on.

he seems autistic, literally only replying to unhelpful insults and trolls while ignoring actual tips

One of my Arch Linux friends does the same thing.

>enters command
>it thrown an error
>proceeds to the next command as if everything is just fine
>why doesn't it work? - I typed over everything just the way it says on the Wiki.

no

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The standard instillation media for ubuntu comes with a live environment, meaning you can use it pretty close to a full desktop experience without installing to physical media.

Also enterprise boot their VMware hosts off USB and SD memory so its not so bad

Run linux in a VM if you want to try it out. Fuck that booting shit

Virtualbox is free. Install that, install linux onto a VM, and learn the magic.

UASP is nearly as fast as native SATA.
I use WindowsToGo at work and the most significant difference between 2 and 3 is not even raw throughput, that rarely matters after boot, but command queueing and parallelisation.

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please read my post again and then give it another shot at replying

That happened to me on my laptop. Oddly debian worked so that's what I use now.

>How viable is booting from a USB?
If your USB drive is a UASP container with SATA drive it is almost as fast as native SATA
>Does it matter if it's 2.0 or 3.0?
Yes, 3.0 has significantly better command queueing and parallelisation than 2.0
>I wanna try Linux but I don't want to lose w10
Ok
>no it doesn't matter if its 2/3
See above
>you shouldn't use it like that for everyday use
Why?

lol, cant even reply to the person you are attempting to talk to, would be funny if it wasn't so sad

>How viable is booting from a USB?
If your USB drive is a UASP container with SATA drive it is almost as fast as native SATA
>Does it matter if it's 2.0 or 3.0?
Yes, 3.0 has significantly better command queueing and parallelisation than 2.0
>I wanna try Linux but I don't want to lose w10
Ok
>no it doesn't matter if its 2/3
See above
>you shouldn't use it like that for everyday use
Why?

Yea, don't drink and shitpost.

>he thinks bandwidth can only refer to internet speed
how's special ed?

Looks more like a troll replying to himself.

I had usb3 stick that had linux installed on it, not live.
Ran my os from there for about year on work.
Works fine, most of the stuff linux does anyways should be in ramfs.

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux,
is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux.
Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component
of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell
utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day,
without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU
which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are
not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a
part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system
that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run.
The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself;
it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is
normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system
is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux"
distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

use a virtual box

Viable imo.
If you're using flash memory, use F2FS and you'll be happy.

It's been good enough for me for a long time now. When I'm staying at someone elses place, all I need is an external drive to boot from. No need to bring my desktop or even a laptop if there's already a machine there.

>be not a pajeet
>ubuntu
Sorry this doesn't check out.

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What is it.

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Last time I checked flash storage had an rpm of 0.

>Because it will be slower than 5400rpm hdd even on USB 3.

The controller chips in many USB drives are slow even if it is flash memory, what I do is get a cheap USB2.0/3.0 sata enclosure and drop in a cheap SATA SSD.

For less than $50 you can have a decently fast 240+GB USB drive that gives good performance as an OS drive and has plenty of space

It works fine but on shutdown it defaults to previous original state.

Good for trying stuff out would not use for regular install. Flash drives also burnout

Maximum throughput will be slower. Random access times will still be faster. Which is mostly what matters and what you will notice... Unless you are transferring files between drives a lot

this is what happened to me unironcally, i tried installing ubuntu on a usb. It wouldnt fucking work

Another damn contrarian, just delete winblowz and install Linux, you'll be much happier.