Why was the olden days so comfy compared to the nowa days?

Why was the olden days so comfy compared to the nowa days?

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It only required a room half full of people to run some fortran code, clean out bugs, and making sure everything worked properly.

It's not the computers, it's the people. That was before they started putting stuff in the water.

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Computers weren't essential
Only people who had computers needed for work or a hobby
Still exploring the basic capabilities of computing

A brief history on the computer industry:

Early days: hardware costs were the largest expense
Golden days: programmer costs were the largest expense
Modern days: power costs are the largest expense

We're in an era where both hardware and programmers are expendable assets so of course the industry is going to be shit.

Liberals ruined everything

this, liberals hate comfort
the original liberal sin is being comfortable
they develop anxiety as a form of repentance that nags and eats at them every time they try to relax

>No LGBT
>less faggots
>less useless tolerance
>less genders
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Where are all the cables?

>Why was the olden days so comfy compared to the nowa days?

cheap oil.

truth.

These, and not only in the IT field.
With AI and automation the limiting factor to infinite profit isn't the workforce or raw materials, it's energy.

The workforce is disposable, even customers are treated like shit, people are obsolete.

These. I want to go back to a time when people were normal and not struggling to get to the top of Mt. Oppression by being the most insufferable shitstain freak they can possibly be.

Under the floor

>reaching cable management levels that shouldn't even be possible just for the aesthetics
god i wish that were me

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Why is everything so fucking huge and a mile apart from each other thing?

>people are obsolete.

well they still serve a purpose, pajeets' work create growth, westerns are allowed to share part of this growth and are then forced to immediately spend it in order to feed the ponzy scheme that is global capitalism.

Cheap energy, cheap real-estate, easy profit. Man i bet these two people are even paid while they just stare at the mainframe / computer room doing nothing.

those machines would overheat if they were any closer together
the temperature in that room is like 96 degrees from the machinery alone
why do you think most huge servers and databases are in cold places like New York and Seattle?

Neckbeard zoo

>those machines would overheat if they were any closer together

meh you'd better put the machines close together in a small room with full air cooling / nitrogen cooling than scattering them in a xbox huge room impossible to cool down.

This

It's the people
>sjw infecting anything they don't qualify for or are good at

there weren't any fags complaining about gay people for no reason

That's just not how it was done. The temp. Of that room was maintained at 72 degrees with a humidity level of 25%. That was the sweet spot.

It was still the 70s, they had room to sprawl a little, so they did.

Don't ask don't tell was the modus operandi

yeah, cheap energy...
it's a Cray-2 btw, so it was mostly liquid cooled. (the CPUs at least).
No A.C. would cool down a room where machines dissipate 150-200 KW in heat...
I think they're spread out like that mostly for the show, really....

1986 actually, but in Minneapolis MN. so yeah, they had room.

there are examples of CRAY supercomputers operating in much smaller rooms (pic related, three of them)

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2 main reasons:
1)TV content was filtered and some decency standards were enforced, so people looked after themselves and didn't look like el goblino abominations of today. Also better food, no gadgets, more physical activity - all leading to better postures and healthier body shapes.
2)Film grain is comfy as fuck and instantly improves any photo. Also color film gamma was on warmer side.

>Why was the olden days so comfy compared to the nowa days?

Because you weren't born yet.

presumably easier cabinet access, better airflow to certain components, space constraints under the fake floor and simply because they can, the room was probably originally built for a much larger computer that did use all of that space
the main computer in that picture isn't even air-cooled anyway, it's cooled by fluorinert whose holding tanks you can see right next to the main system

Less (((diversity)))

Datafloors are still the standard in bigger server halls.

they're water-cooled, the heat exchangers are somewhere else.

>computers were mostly professional tools, and they looked like it and evoked that kind of mental imagery
>the early computer market was highly diverse and full of all kinds of unique and exciting attempts at differentiation
>things were generally actually designed and engineered and looked like somebody actually gave a shit about them and took pride in building them
>not associated with politics or other social cancer that kills technology today
>garbage/uninteresting products have all been filtered out by the natural passage of time creating a more rose-tinted picture and contributing to the above points
Shit's more exciting no matter how you look at it. Modern hardware is all boring appliance-ified trash built by replaceable, braindead dullards who take no pride in what they do and only want to make money. Modern software is infested with pointless politics that used to stay firmly behind the scenes and obnoxious elitist userbases. Modern technology in general is infested with casuals and trendseekers who don't give a single fuck about it for what it is and only see it as a fashion statement, escape from reality or easy money.
You don't see a lot of that shit in computing history unless go deep into it, it's either washed out or never existed in the first place because people generally had a different mindset, and early computing pioneers who built fucking works of art that function as well as they look like Seymour Cray are much more commendable and palatable than the bland marketing gurus of today like Zuckerberg.

>bigger
I've never seen a serious server room of any size without one.

And I've never seen a server room

That's fine, just saying. Definitely plenty of false floors still out there.

Its the ammount of people that are in a circle what kills the comfyness. Just look at your pic. It's same that going to an tabletop rpg session and then the next week this giant faggot brings his gf or friend and don't engage in rping or just laugh about it.

Kek this holy shit

what do u mean by liberal ?
like social liberalism ?

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corporate opened the door to get cheap labour, now everybody and their mum believe they can be a "coder". now you have to scale and climb all the shit if you want to be at the top, and of course some code monkey with better connections than you will always get ahead most of the time.

the industry was better when it was a strictly science field where people knew exactly what they were doing. not "le i have no idea why my code werks xD" memes.

You see those two guys on the floor level? They build that place. They know everything about it. They don't need constant supervision. They don't need to be assigned explicit tasks and have their workflow dictated to them. They're given a goal and are free to innovate how they go about it.

These days, employees don't understand the technology they're using and want to have their hands held through their entire work day.

DAE le wrong generation xD? I want to go back to 1200 baud lol xd

Dumb underage kids feeling nostalgia about a time they weren't even alive for. Technology is better than it's ever been. Anyone who wants to go back either wasn't there or has other emotional issues.

t. 44 year old boomer

sounds comfy

Nobody's talking about the tech, m8. They're talking about the industry. You wouldn't understand, being a NEET and all.

There's more interesting developments and opportunities for rewarding work in tech than ever before. Sounds like you just need to git gud.

I assume it was when cobol showed up and ruined everything with shared computing. From then on, you have rooms full of people working on dummy terminals, programming todays shitty legacy code.

>Why was the olden days so comfy compared to the nowa days?
Because you weren't there, things look brighter because you conveniently forget all the bad parts which were far more numerous than nowadays.
Good cognitive dissonance you get there and no sjws are not responsible for whatever misconception you have about the current world.

That picture is the definition of uncomfy regarding interior design.

get off the internet, mentally ill faggots are over-reperesented there.

>had eggs were growing in their testes
Appalling grammar for a supposedly professional publication. How have standards fallen so far in so many walks of life? The olden days were so comfy because people gave a shit.

Because those "olden days" exist only in your imagination

because there were no h1b poos back then

It's not just sjws
the jewish ivy league MBA philosophy is the real killer

you guys are all fucking retards feeling nostalgia for a time you weren't even alive life before the internet was horrible and boring

Why do liberals always immediately jump to the "times were never better, everything has always been exactly like it is now!" argument, even when it's demonstrably wrong? Do they legitimately believe this, or is it just some kind of jewish history revisionism trickery?

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It's only certain moments from history that are especially aesthetically beautiful when we see them today. The high 60s was one of those times. The Western countries were reaching the peak of their growth and wealth as they modernized and recovered from WWII, and the Eastern bloc hadn't yet run out of money. Japan was experiencing their "miracle." Art and design were appreciated, imported and exported, and thus subject to competition.

By the 70s, "kitsch" and tacky furnishings were becoming popular with the settled middle class, and things went downhill from there until new aesthetics were coined in limited niches.

because liberal's memory is destroyed by antidepressant usage.

why do zoomers like to pretend they're conservative on Jow Forums

Jow Forums has always hated minorities, user.

hating minorities doesn't make you conservative

Wrong. Jow Forums has always hated normalfags, who were afraid of words like "nigger" which is why we used it. We were a minority, all outcasts. Zoomers don't understand this because socializing on the internet doesn't make you a freak today, it's what normies do.

>everyone who doesn't feel misplaced nostalgia for the past when technology was worse is a liberal
*snap*

You're right, social unrest has only existed in America for the past 5 years

>We were a minority, all outcasts

Not only is that retarded and wrong, the fact that you used the word "we' shows how much of a newfag you are.

Seriously. It seems to be that in the last four years I haven't been able to read an article online without some heinous grammatical error or typo. Maybe someone discovered it was cheaper to fire most of the editors and just delete any comments criticizing how awful the articles and sites in general are. Or perhaps correcting that shit doesn't matter because they've aready won when you clicked the link.

This doesn't look comfy at all. It looks noisy and hot and dry stale air.

> liberal
This is what Americans call Progressives.

>It seems to be that in the last four years I haven't been able to read an article online without some heinous grammatical error or typo
>National Geographic magazine was first published in October 1888. In 2014 Susan Goldberg became the 10th editor of the magazine and the first ever woman.

Really makes you think.

25, been here since I was underage fag.

Seems about right to me. I think access is a big one, computers in those days still needed quite a bit of physical maintenance, inspection, and tinkering.

>not posting the whole thing
>National Geographic magazine was first published in October 1888. In 2014 Goldberg became the 10th editor of the magazine and the first ever woman. She is also the first Jewish editor in chief of the magazine.

Ah yes, Jews are notorious for their poor command of spelling and grammar. That's totally a thing. Right.

This is a technology board friend, if you want to LARP about how 1950s suburban boredom was so great or how great it was to be a serf in the 1200s or whatever, there's probably better places to do it like Jow Forums, /his/ or /lit/

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and women are?

So you're blaming he poor quality control on her being a woman? I thought misogyny was illegal in 2018.

ah yes, you left it out because sexism is ok but anti semitism is just like UM I CANNOT EVEN RIGHT NOW

Every major print publication that I read has declined in editorial quality over the last 5 to ten years because they are all bleeding money like crazy while they try not to be completely obsoleted by the internet. It's not just NatGeo, so I know it has nothing to do with the editor.

maybe that's because nobody fucking reads print publications anymore

You can't use hyperbole and sophism in place of arguments, kiddo. Not even on the internet.

Yes, that is the reason.

Technology is better than its ever been. Kinda funny that you come to a board full of people interested in technology, get butthurt and lash out that they don't yearn for pre-Internet days and can only resort to calling people "liberals" for not wanting to go back to a boomer normie's idealized version of the past.

>technology was worse
Actually, we have lost a lot of quality in making things up in quantity. They still sell tube radios due to sound quality, and I think that CRTs had better picture quality (and better blacks) than the LCD I'm looking at now.

Varg/Ted did nothing wrong

The social unrest of today is completely and utterly fabricated. It is in no way organic. Leftsists are nothing more than toadies of Jewish globalism. Fucking plebs.

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Modern tube-based audio equipment is pretty comparable to older stuff in quality and there's a lot more variety and choices now.

CRTs literally give you eye cancer. That's like feeling nostalgic over leaded gasoline.

>he says as he impotently whines for the past on a 21st century anime imageboard

>They still sell tube radios due to sound quality,
Lack of sound quality.
For a start, unless it's FM there is no bandwidth for quality sound.
Tube radios and amps suffer from thermal drift, microphonics, parasitic oscillations, crossover distortion and the list goes on.
The reputation of really good tube audio was built on their overcoming these problems by proprietary work-arounds. They were complex, costly and inefficient.
For the cost of one tube you can get a pre-built Class-D 20W amp that'll blow the sox off your 10%THD Marantz.
Did you know that the IHFM standards called for an amp to be tested one channel,

>saying a website used to be better is the same as whining for a past decade or state in technology.

As long as the crowd flocks to trolls "for the lulz" this place will be crap.
If you reward attention-seeking morons you'll get more of them.
Eventually, that's all that will be here.

yeah access is definitely big, though big iron didn't have 24 hour mtbf anymore by the 80s there was still a lot of shit you needed to be able to get to

^this. Also, anytime something something goes mainstream, it's turned to shit because most people are in fact shit. The core ideas give way to idiocy. Think of anything and any tech and it applies.

So, the olden days were comfy because it had a focus and a direction and there were no normies or idiots. Once this changed, it went to ass.

Correct
Correct
Under the floor. Server rooms sit on raised tailed floors. You can pop one of the tiles and access the cabling.
^this. It's more to to do with shit tier culture and people amassing power/$$$. A completely different society can be realized even now but when you enrich and empower dumbass chad/sallys you get more of the same tired ass society w/ cool hardware toys/software apps.
It was a time before everything was about cost efficiency and profits. So, no one was too concerned about packing shit densely. Those crays were water cooled .

Look at the Sierra and Summit supercomputers; almost identical tech, one is powered and liquid-cooled from the ceiling, the other has a false floor.

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^this. This man knows the broader picture.

>Technology is better than its ever been.
That depends on what "better" means to you.
It's certainly more powerful, complex and far more convenient, but would you really consider someone who doesn't give a shit about anything but how fast Facebook loads to be truly "interested" in technology? There's so much more to being a true enthusiast/hobbyist than just being a braindead bugman who worships a spec sheet and plays video games at high graphical settings.

The modern computing market is pretty much matured at this point; it's stagnant, bland and lacking in diversity. Everything is a tear-jerkingly boring black plastic brick from one of three or four Foxconn plants, designed by someone who clearly knew it was destined for the garbage from the start. It's really no surprise that more and more people who are interested in the actual physical technology are getting bored and losing interest in the "latest and greatest" and jerking off about the "comfy" systems of bygone eras that often had actual history and looked and felt more like professional tools than cheap disposable lifestyle appliances.

Black user here.. ^this guy gets it. In the earlier days of the internet ... nigger and kike were thrown around quite often no matter what ethnicity someone was. It was more of a litmus test and ritual to break one's square ass sensitive mentality. The internet was a place of escape and boundless possibility. So, these things were a hazing ritual. It wasn't a test because no one actually gave a fuck if you were a square. It was a ritual to break a normie's psyche and to ensure they never felt the internet would change to their world of PC bullshit

Cray computer is still alive you know and still does a lot of HPC builds. Not much about the technology has changed tbqh. They really perfected it back then when there were truly passionate visionaries. Many of the bus architectures are the same and the scaling paradigms. Tons of the older guys still work in this area thus the grey beards at most of the conferences related to the tech.

>floo

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