How does Jow Forums feel about purchasing used HDDs?

Of course, I mentioned it in my car example. It goes both ways
Yes

I wanted to get a handful of drives to install different OS's on them.

Prices are still not down to what they used to be / should be

Partly due to the damage of that flood, partly due to the other companies using that as an excuse to hike their prices and make more dolla

People buy used cars all the time and those things can kill you.

At the very least with a used drive you can be sure that there is no immediate factory defect. HDDs seem to fail either in the first month or years later.

>mfw i got four 1yo 1.5TB WD greens for $100 the month before this happened

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said drives

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what are the odds of that happening again? did seagate/wd put their factories on higher ground? do datacenters like google hoard and stockpile hard drives in case of such events?

Brand new HDDs are so dirt cheap that there is no reason to take the mystery box that are used HDDs.

Fair enough

I mean where I live you can get 4TB WD Reds for sub 100€/~110$ and the used drives usually go for 2TB/80€ due to delusional idiots that think because they bought it for 120€ years ago it's still worth at least 2/3 of the buy price.

Risky as fuck. Get a printout of the SMART data and don't use for critical shit.

Just ask for a surface test and SMART.

>buying second hand anything

t. dumpster diving hipster fatfuck

>he doesn't buy second hand systems for a 10th of the MSRP
What are you even doing?

never worth it

I've done it a few times. Best part is people generally don't full format, so you can run a program like Recuva and find some fun stuff on used drives.

You should always have backup anyways so why not. You'll need to replace them more frequently of course.

Ask the vendor for the SMART figures. It will tell how much hours it has been on and a whole lot other informations, like how many shocks the drive has received.

pretty good for blackmail

>oh, that CP folder? It wasn't me, officer, it was the previous owner

>what is DBAN
>what is SCSI secure erase

Check S.M.A.R.T.

If you have backups who cares, its practically free hardware

Smart doesn't matter -- the blanket good or bad. I am dealing with a drive that has "good smart" yet the values are still shit and the drive is read/writing under 1Mbs

SMART data will tell you, but you'll probably only find out after you've bought the drive.

in my experience a drive that will fail will do so within the first couple years, so a couple thousand powered-on hours combined with a healthy SMART reading means you're good to go.

SAS drives are for men

I would buy that for cheap sure

>Mfw 50yo Boomer grandpaps external hdds started failing and I ripped the 4tb hdds out of them
Feels good having 50tb storage

What is dban

>that 320 GB one
oy vey it would actually be a better deal just to buy the 250 GB ones for 33% less the price

How is this situation even going to arise?

I have about 10 40GB PATA drives. what should I do with them? seem too old and slow for anything useful

HDDs are cheap enough to not need to buy them used. Honestly, I can't think of any task I would trust a used HDD with.

>What is a search engine.

It's great. They either break right off or work forever.

Small portable drive.
Scrub drive for video editing.

got an old used hd that still had an entire XP install including a trailer park's family photos, and the son's aimbots and password lists still on it. formatted it after browsing it for a while. kid basically gave me full access to his internet life unknowingly.

nested jbod+raid0

WD green. I bet they were all dead one month later.

Are any still working?

I have a full rack of ancient 80/120GB ones connected together
At least they were free

t. poorfag

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stupid. HDDs are so fucking cheap just buy them

not unless if youre in some place where the prices are very high e.g. finland and new zealand

What is a joke

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This. Also it depends on usage. For example I don't mind buying used HDDs for caching. I have replaced most with SSDs now, but I would even buy a 14-20 TB used if it came with warranty, low hours and a reasonable discount. Even new HDDs can break.
Who would even pay money for such old shit drives? You can get a 120 GB SSD for under 30 € as OS drive if youre poor. HDDs arent OK for OS.
>I initially used one on my Phenom 9600 build in 2017 but couldnt bear it
>It felt like a different computer after I installed a SSD even on a fucking SATA 1 interface
Plus the annoying cracking from that old HDD. The new Seagates don't do that anymore, but be careful for Hitachis. They were the loudest I ever had.

ran them 24/7 for over 5 years in my seedbox. they're in a moving box now cus im too lazy but i bet they still work.

on the other hand i bought a 500GB Green that died in a year.

(((he))) does not have Win3.11, Win95, Win98 and DOS on a single fat16 formatted SSD

Crustaldusk info

Welp just got a WD Purple 1TB. New, sealed.

Used HDDs to me feel like buying a used prothesis from a retired radical islamic hobo.
You never know when it will blow up on you.

I only use HGST HDDs for long term media storage, SSD for everything else. SSD prices are relatively cheap now that there's no excuse not to use them.

>SSD prices are relatively cheap now that there's no excuse not to use them
that "relative" part is pretty valid reason, fucktard.
maybe after samsung's new shit comes it will be actually affordable for mainstream use.

Bought 2 used WD Reds to use in my RAID5 pool, paid 60% of retail price. No complaints. SMART reports them as flawless, performance in my tests only confirms that. If one fails - it's a RAID5 for a reason - no problem.

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I'm fine with it

But the reds I use in my server for storing my actually valued shit I bought new

but raid5 needs at least 3 disks...

yes, and?

SSD is still over 5 times more expensive per GB...

>bought TWO wd reds
>raid5 with two drives

In my country they are still selling a 120G used HDD for $8.

do you have some mental problem that prevents you from understanding full sentences

do you have some mental problem that prevents you from writing proper sentences?

if you put them in an array with other drives why cant you just say that instead of being a fucking nigger?

insecure much?

you are a brainlet im sorry

No reason not to buy them used, since you need redundancy and backups to protect against bit rot and drive death regardless. Might as well spend less money.

I will maybe pay $10/tb, and only run them once a month or so as a second backup.

I have cheap HDs backing up cheap HDs backing up my main drives.

I've bought a couple of refurbished (really almost the same as used) Hitachi 2TB 3.5 server drives from 2012~, they had zero hours on them when I first used them, obviously this means their smart data was reset. They're loud as fuck. I only use them to store porn or anime I've already watched, nothing really important, have had them for 15 months.

I live decently close to a Microcenter.
I'd be okay buying a used drive from them because if it did fail I could cause a fuss and get some sort of refund/future discount.

Buy a used drive over the internet? Hell no.

Depends on if I have to throw it away after looking at it through a recovery program.

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They are fine in a ZFS pool. Of course I check them first with SMART & badblocks and erase them with DoD Short.

Are you mentally stunted, user? It's ok, we won't judge you.

wd and seagates are closed some facilities (thailand and china respectively I think)

and yes it can happen in the future
journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/JCLI-D-15-0310.1

should be good for a backup that you put into a external drive (or just leave it in your pc)
I do a complete system back up once a month, and for that limited use I dont need a brand new one.

Soon of the dice. Either chance on if it’s extremely cheap ($20 2tb) or buy at fair discount with some sort of guarantee it will be OK (newer model number or recent manufacured on date on label). In both cases test drive via smart check

Got 4 over the years, no issues so far.

I've been running one 1TB for 2 years now and never had issues.

>How does Jow Forums feel about purchasing used HDDs?
Do it all the while.
Amazing what you find.

HDD are so cheap there is literally no point.
Besides you dont know how well the last person/group scrubbed it if even at all.

Sounds like a good way to end up with malware or a 3 letter agency present.

>>Besides you dont know how well the last person/group scrubbed it if even at all.
what do you give a shit. dd if=/dev/zero the thing if you want to make sure it's cleaned out.

> Western Digital
> Made in Asia

anecdotal evidence doesnt mean statistics arent real, wd greens have higher (or at least used to have) failure rates