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My college degree is worthless (english) and am looking to pivot into IT or programming, I have no preference. Do I

1) go to school and get a computer science BS and leave after 2 years with 40k debt

2) try to get a helpdesk job and work my way up with certs

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Probably go fuck yourself and stop begging for advice on NEET forum.

Don't do it. IT sucks really hard.

>he thinks he has to pay for pieces of paper to get a good job in IT
Fucking plebs crack me up.

what job doesn't?

>retarded enough to get a degree in english
>thinks he can do IT

Very small-brained, user.

be a web dev

>English
>Worthless
Um, are you confused? That's one of the only non-STEM degrees worth getting.

>Banks
>Financial sector
>Legal sector with minor training
>Marketing dept for god knows how many companies
>Media management
>Administration in god knows how many companies
>Teaching if that's your thing

You have whole market sectors that benefit from your knowledge. How *can't* you find something worth doing?

If you go into IT, you'll face the same difficulties. You'll be complaining there are no jobs other than 1st line help desk, and how there's nowhere you can go. This is a you issue, not a degree issue.

Alright, OP let me lay down some career advice for you.

1. Don't get into helpdesk unless you love helping people that can't help themselves and don't mind the occasional frustrated person. Going from helpdesk to sysadmin to management is a slow and painful process, especially if you can't program. Additionally the skills for all 3 can be wildly different, but thta's the peter principle career track.

2. There's not much money in core IT skills. That said, you have an opportunity to branch out and use your english skills to augment some IT skills. There's surprisingly good money in being someone that can do web dev and write content too. I.e., SEO specialist, blog poster, etc.

3. Find out if programming is for you before you go to school for it. Hit up an online javascript academy or something and see if this is something you enjoy. This will also give you an edge if you do go to school for it.

4. Don't go to school for software dev if your only goal is to get a job. you can pick up a C# or Java book (I like the murach ones, but it's been about 10 years for me, so things have changed). If you learn how to make a website, database, write content, and use templates that an artist made, you can make money right now being a web developer. If you like programming more, get into more backend work building services, APIs, etc. This doesn't require a degree. I'm a CTO (note: more management than tech) and I don't have a BS.

5. Get off this japanese imageboard and make sure your social and networking skills are solid. It's a skill you can improve just like anything else. If you have base competency in IT or software, if the hiring manager likes you then you have an edge.

You could always do a graduate in stats. Just ask a director of studies what are the mandatory courses you should take. If you can deal with precalculus ok and prepare a bit, you should be able to do calc 1, 2 and linear algebra in one semester. That's what I did from my sociology degree. To people that says soft science is a hobby and hard science serious business, I say it is the other way around.

How would you graduate with 40k in debt? Do you plan on being unemployed the whole time you're in school or something? Also an "IT" degree, while not worthless, won't pay anywhere near as much as computer science. Of course CS is significantly harder than English and you seem like the type that doesn't actually have an interest in the field, only the money you could make. In other words you'd probably end up washing out. That said if you're highly motivated and are good at math or plan to work hard to get good, go for it.

Damnit, if that isn't a sign to stop web dev as soon as possible and get into C++, then what is?

Is this a serious post? An English degree won't be an asset here for any of those jobs besides teaching English.

Of course it's not. English degrees are for people who go to school to party it up or because their parents forced them to go.

>going to college in 2018
>implying IT isn't saturated by Pajeets and low cost overseas emloyees.
>asking Jow Forums for advice

try going for a MSc (or MA) in something computer related. You could also do bioinformatics which takes in all types of backgrounds. Northeastern university has a MS program for people like you. Part of the program is literally working at a company instead of doing a thesis. I didn’t go here, but it’s something you could look into. To make your application for both work and school stronger, work on some projects and make a github to put them on.

most english majors cant handle the logical and operational rigor, and procedural regimentation, of para-mathematical curricula such as CS

Do you think it's possible to get a job in med/bio related domains with only a Msc and a BA in liberal arts? I tend to think you would always be looked over for people with more background knowledge.

Once you get a graduate degree no one cares what your BS/BA was in. People will always judge you based on your last degree. For research you will need a PhD, but for bioinformatics a MS will be fine. A lot of it is parsing biological data to do stats or even creating and maintaining an in house dataset. There’s a lot you can do with bioinformatics, but you need to know what (You) are happy with. Also, getting hired isn’t about what you know, it’s about knowing the right people. You may meet someone at a conference who likes your work, and you can try to establish a relationship there. If a company really wants you, your CV becomes just a formality.

Fuck you nigga, now everyone is trying to be "le epic smart coder in under 6 months" to earn 250k a year despite never being interested in coding in the first place.

English major / CS minor here. I currently work in healthcare data, and used that study combination as the main selling point on my resume.
OP, you already fucked up by getting a humanities degree without a technical skillset to complement it. You can try to backfill it now with some kind of certification, but you're looking at a pretty significant setback imo.
Also, I think hybrid roles like EDI/BI/Analytics would come more readily than software dev, but that's just based on my experience.
gl;hf

Get your A+, get into an entry-level Local Support/Helpdesk job (dime a dozen, right now), and get more certs that the company will reimburse you for passing. Quit after 2 years or transition somewhere else in the company in a discipline that you're more interested in.

Is it really worth doing the A+? I mean, I don't need to do it, but for people starting out, like, why do such a basic cert. It's like getting a cert to prove you have an IQ above 70. If I was starting out, I would probably do some basic microsoft cert to get started. Not only is it cheaper, being able to say you are a. "Microsoft certified professional" (or whatever title entry level is) sounds better, and will look really good to a HR who knows nothing about IT certs. And to someone who does know about IT certs, I mean A+ is still shit anyway.

I like the way you put it. I tend to think a life should be like a building, but the world is indifferent.

>My college degree is worthless (english)
I have my degree in English. I was a journalist for years before moving over to public relations, which pays a lot better.

You need a CCNA to get a helpdesk job in today's world senpai. A+ = employer will laugh at you behind your back. Trust me, it's not worth it. Most helpdesk jobs are in India.

Why would you need a CCNA? It depresses me how fucked the job market is nowadays. Helpdesk is the kind of job a kid fresh out of high school can do, yet even for that you have to jump through hoops

Why not get a job writing contracts.

Where I'm at, it's extremely competitive. My boss gets around 250 applications a day for his open helpdesk job, most are CCNA or A+ certified. He's only going to take the CCNA applications because they're generally much higher quality and will take less pay.

You have a fucking English degree, A+ would be the bare minimum on your resume that would even remotely be considered for an IT job.

"Bullshitting HR" is a meme because we give HR keywords and requirements to filter resumes by, A+ being one of them, along with other bare minimum requirements like a Bachelor's in "Information System; Computer Science; Information Technology" and so on.

Tbh, you're not going really going to get far with the kind of mentality you have about the interview process. Prepare yourself for a lot of application ghosting and sub-par first rounds if you manage to squeak in past HR phone screens. I get ~400 a week for entry-level Helpdesk and phone screen

>javascript

yes, good goy :^) hit up that online academy :^)

You'll need a combo of IT work experience and certifications. Certifications demonstrate knowledge and minimal competency so they arent a complete waste of money, but it's best to only pay for the test itself and maybe books for study material. IT is a huge field so you should shop around and check out what might be best for you while gaining job experience. L1 IT is a clerical position. L2 IT is IT work but it's the bare minimum and L3 is more advanced. Entry level IT blows BIG TIME and it takes fortitude to make it through it.

This. No one received valuable advice on a Nicaraguan latex distributor interface.

Do machine learning.
It doesn't require any fundamentals but a little bit of python. From there it's just reading 3 or 4 books (also practicing their examples) and there you go, you are an official data engineer.

Pretty much this.

OP, you had a chance in college the first time to do this, and you unfortunately missed your chance. Stick with your field. Work is work, it's not supposed to be enjoyed. In fact, well north of 90% of people utterly hate their jobs. Suck it up.

>wanting money is bad