Piracy is legal

I don't ever recall an empty drive tax being implemented in Estonia. Noone gives a fuck about piracy here. I only remember a few anti-piracy posters from the early 2000s when I was a kid, but not much else.

>talks about cucking
>corporations lobbies his government into doing whatever they want
take your sore ameriass somewhere else, because you're comparing paying a little tax vs being jailed because you allegedly downloaded a movie.

>shit yuropoor country
>relevant

it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equo_compenso_in_Italia
It's in Italian but I think you're able to get the infos out, I'm phoneposting atm

>paying a little tax
>on some bullshit
>is it ok
you're fucking pathetic.
America should kick your useless shithole leech from NATO.

I pirate
>Windows
not paying for that shit, not in a million years.
>TV Shows, Movies
Not giving a cent to pedowood
>Vidya
To try it and see if it's worth my money or not, if it is then I just go ahead and buy it.

I live in a shithole country and everyone here literally don't give a flying fuck about piracy, I could fill my house with seed boxes and pirate everything 24/7 and no one would give a shit.

Don't stress yourself too much otherwise you risk to pay a lot for the privilege of being Hospitalized™

Can you sell full drives without the tax?

I believe it applies only to retailers as their are forced to complain with the law. If you buy something online from another country I don't think it would apply.

nice straw man arguments you have here, you retard.
Well, what more can someone expect from a subhuman like yourself...

I assume "empty drive tax" means if they sell a full drive with some junk on it they could avoid the tax.
Maybe I wasn't clear enough but that was what I was getting at. It would be interesting to see what junk they would put on the drives if anyone did.

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It's not a tax and the US kinda has it
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_copying_levy
It's also an absolute fucking glow in the dark racket and I have no clue how anyone allowed it to pass

WD drives tend to ship with some of their utilities

Germany has similiar laws as well.

That's not the meaning of "empty drive tax", it states that since there's no enforcing copyright at such capillary level (nor could be possible) it's assumed that some copyrighted material will land on your drive, so they tax proportionally to the capacity of storage of the drive beforehand to compensate such loss.
It is obviously not a fair tax, as they're assuming you're gonna pirate.

Same in Austria.

Same in Spain.

at least we can torrent without getting in legal troubles like other european countries

>4,3
Do you mean 3.34 ?

Getting letters from your ISP asking you to stop pirating is an unheard of thing in Spain, and quite surrealist if you ask me. Everybody torrents here, and consequences are absolutely zero.

EYYY MAMA MIA IM WALKIN HERE MADONN THE GABAGOOL SPAGHETTI LINGUINI

yeah, I was talking more about Germany/UK
even France has something like this IIRC, but you just need to stop torrenting for a couple of months after receiving two ISP letters (still sucks btw)

We have that tax too. Yet piracy is also banned and organizations are free to prosecute pirates.
Fucking jews at it again.

Basrd bros from baltic region

It’s legal in Israel as long as you don’t sell it

>Same in Austria.
oh really...good to know

>empty disk tax that assumes that the user will pirate
Wow Europ*ans are beyond retarded.

t. retarded burger too scared to torrent anything

Piracy and "unauthorized copying" are meme terms that shouldn't exist.

in the us it's legal to download and share but illegal to upload and share unless you're uploading to yourself in which case it's legal

Yeah that's not true, it's not legal to download copyrighted media without a permission from the copyright holder.
They don't ever prosecute it though because it would literally accomplish nothing.

In Russia we got like 1% tax from every empty media container price.

All money goes to some russian mafia-label, not creators.

Tax collectors even tried to get 1% of every device's (not the memory media) price afaik.

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>mafia-label
how to stop these parasites?

they wanted to implement the same tax in latvia but didn't for some reason. everybody except gay faggots and jews torrents here.

The government does the same thing in Portugal but that doesn't make piracy legal. It's just tolerated and taxed to compensate content producers.

The tax applies to every storage medium, even USB drives/memory cards.

Wonder if anyone is trying to undercut the government by importing drives from a place that has no such "sin" tax and reselling... This is one stupid ass tax.

That's called smuggling, and happens with literally any good that has a tax associated with it.
Cigarettes have big tax associated with them, people run them all the time and get caught and get fucked.

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as piracy, is in fact, unauthorized copying, or as I've recently taken to calling it, unauthorized sharing. Piracy is not the act of obtaining an unauthorized copy of a copyrighted work, but rather robbery or criminal violence at sea.

Many computer users make unauthorized copies every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the act which is widely performed today is often called piracy, and many of the people who do it are not aware that it is basically copying, and not stealing.

There really is a piracy, and some people are doing it, but it is just robbery at sea. Piracy is an act of theft: an action at sea in which goods are forcefully transferred from one ship to another. Piracy is important to be aware of, but unrelated to unauthorized copying; it can only function at sea. Piracy is normally not used in combination with unauthorized copying: the two acts are basically seperate. All the so-called piracy is really unauthorized copying.

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The law is very ambiguous. For example one could argue that if I download a cd from a direct download site it is a private copy, but if I get it from a torrent it is piracy as I would be also uploading.

Must hate it when somebody's right.
t. American

Only Germany gives a shit about this. Any other country doesn't care about privacy. Hopefully (((Germany))) won't force others to obey this law.

If anything we fucking need to kick Turkey out of NATO.
They're calling for the arrest of senior USAF officers, claiming that they were involved with the "coup" attempt. They've been threatening to raid Incirlik AB, and fucking cut off the power there for days when the "coup" was happening.

It's insane that there's a base in a supposedly allied country, where the US Airmen stationed there aren't allowed off base because the locals hate us.

It's completely legal to download and use pirated content here in Brazil. It's only illegal to sell/distribute it. Back in the PS2 modchip days there were a bunch of stores selling pirated PS2 games and nobody did anything, I'm sure it's more strict now though.

Even though it's legal, society seems to be moving away from it, non-pirated content is just more convenient than what it used to be. Netflix, Steam, consoles that can't be hacked so easily, Spotify, etc.

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Content distributors are finally catching on, realizing that most people are willing to pay if they don't have to jump through hoops.

10 years ago, if you legally wanted a movie, you'd have to go to the store, buy a DVD for $20, and then sit through 5 minutes of anti-piracy ads. OR, you could just whip open the pirate bay, download the movie, watch it immediately and not even have to leave your chair.
Now with stuff like Netflix, you don't even have to go through the hassle of finding a torrent and downloading it. It's streamed automatically at a good resolution.

Back then people would BUY pirated movies simply because original copies were too expensive. Torrenting wasn't as widespread because internet here was terrible.

Now the average speed is 10mbps, that's more than enough for 1080p so everybody can use Netflix and not care about torrenting.

Only stuff I torrent are older games and anime.

Price is what makes something like Netflix worth it. People just stopped seeing the value in buying a CD for $20 that had two good songs on it, or $25 for a trash movie on DVD.

Not having to sit through anti-piracy shit is just an added bonus.

NATO can eat my ass

I am going to start a "you killed my father prepare to die" tax. You will fund people's revenge on those who whose fathers were killed. Why? Because I know you are going to kill some fathers. Everyone does after all. it's pretty neat huh?

Same thing in Portugal. Gotta love socialism.

you have it too

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>Back in the PS2 modchip days there were a bunch of stores selling pirated PS2 games and nobody did anything
yeah i've almost never seen a store selling original ps2 games here

Because you're dumb, it's already implemented in CD, DVD prices, fortunately if i remember correctly, they didn't add usb drives and external hdd-s to the list as our "e-country" is actually dumb as fuck about consumer technology.
Google: kasseti maks, it's the tax named in plebeian way but it may give you the gist of it

And they actually do give a fuck, I dare you to use pirated software in a company and then get BSA on your ass.

There are some down here in the south that still sell them, guess they got in some stock and never managed to sell them lol.

I know two stores in Criciúma and Içara that have a BUNCH of original PS2 games, prices range from R$10 to R$30. It's a damn steal.

no

here you can see the countries who have it:
wipo.int/publications/en/series/index.jsp?id=145

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What if you just buy 1 disk and just keep deleting stuff as you consume it? It's not like everyone likes to stockpile data.

Serbia has anti-piracy laws, but they are not enforced.

It just assumes you're going to steal so you pay in advance.
It does not make piracy legal, even though it should.

no its not

I guess they wouldn't care less for private users as I've had no problems with law enforcement regarding torrenting whatever. I've used some pirated, old versions of office that were required in order to be compatible with legacy accounting software and noone has given a fuck. Although, it can be a matter of scale, as none of the companies are __big players__ that'd caught the law enforcements attention.

Besides, the reliance on __authentic Office software__ is fucking retarded in Estonia or any government agencies in fact.

in Romania the same

No. You pay empty medium tax, but piracy is still illegal.
I am lithuanian so I know.
basically it is politishians stealing from us.

Same shit here in Germany. Although your dumb ass confused moral, right and legal. It's still illegal.

Which makes the law even more insane. You pay money for the right to make a private copy of the shit you bough.

>Not giving a cent to pedowood
How does this make any sense to you? Why would you consume media done by people you accuse to be pedos even for free?

>I have no clue how anyone allowed it to pass
It's not any more shocking than suing people for downloading a copy someone made.

Not politicians but companies.

Is like, no one buy shit in estonia or there's literally none there. I refuse to believe that an entire country generates with taxes at most 500k€.
The (((SIAE))) miked almost 130 million in 2016 for that shitty tax

*latvia, read wrong

I know what you mean, I don't support the tax either, but it's seriously not that much, besides I buy my drives and shit from other countries via the information superhighway, don't know if that tax is there.

no one cares about piracy here in brazil. it's basically second nature to us. my dad's a cop, and when i came to visit the precinct he worked on, i messed with his computer a bit and saw a AutoKMS scheduled process. He also had a cracked version of Avast and that shitty portable version of photoshop CS6 everybody torrents, for some reason. it was probably all installed by some kid with a 32gb flashdrive with a outdated copy of windows on it and a 10gb folder of "useful programs".

>but it's seriously not that much
What kind of fucking logic is this? You're getting money stolen from you.

if they are not going to prosecute piracy is a good deal desu

>if they are not going to prosecute piracy
Which is not the case. Just lack of effort.

>Which is not the case
the entire thread is telling you otherwise, where are you from? the land of the free?

You're missing the point. Obviously the prosecutors won't bother too much in small, poorfag countries; but they still absolutely have the right to fuck you if they decide to, despite you paying protection money to them.

>All money goes to some russian mafia-label, not creators.
same in sweden, fucking bullshit

fucking finally

sweclockers.com/nyhet/25689-enig-riksdag-star-bakom-utredning-av-privatkopieringsersattning

you are just jealous you live in a corporate dictatorship with not respect for human rights

>he needs piracy to be legal to pirate things
pleb

the price of a harddrive includes a hefty fee to some bullshit intellectual property organization so you're still paying for their shit

actually no
my country has no such law afaik and nobody has ever done shit against torrenting here

for

>the US government taxes us when we buy CDs
>and gives it to the kikes er I mean content creators that subvert western civilization
It is rare that anything surprises me anymore. Taking money from the poor and giving it to the Jew has been a thing for a while but it has usually involved levels of abstraction and indirection. It just boggles my mind at how we got here. My words really fail me.

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impossible to live witout piracy
i dont make money on it
so, i cool

Same in Russia but laws are ignoring wht you say here.

>your government levied taxes so it's moral

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