/tpg/ Thinkpad General - No Trannies Allowed

Previous thread: If you're looking for purchase advice, state your budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P Series if you want the Real Business Experience™

>Other business laptops are welcome in /tpg/ (Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).

Libreboot-compatible models:
>T60 (check lcd), X60(s/t); X200(s/t. -s requires soldering), T400(s)/500; W500.

Modern models:
>X220/X230 - 12", 768p, cheap and light
>T420/T430 - 14", 900p, widely available, socketed CPU, both Coreboot-compatible (Ivy Bridge CPU support on T420); Quad Core Compatible, Old keyboard swap on *30 series
>T520/530; W520/530 - 15", 1080p, DTR, 32GB RAM on quadcore models, USB 3.0
>T440p/540p; W540/1 - Last Thinkpads with socketed processors, easily replaceable trackpad (W541 doesn't need trackpad replacement)
>P-Series - 15'' + 17'', 4K display, up to 64GB of RAM, Xeon CPU option. Expensive.

Upgraded models:
>X210 - X200/X201, i5 8250u quadcore
>X62 - X61, i5 5250u
>T70 - T60, i7 7700 hq
IPS displays, USB 3.0, m.2 x4, mini dp, no
forum.51nb.com/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=117

Why ThinkPad?
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet
>Great durability: magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop
>Easy to repair (most models), upgrade & maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model, spare parts easy & cheap to obtain
>The best TrackPoint™, great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support


>ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads & running GNU/Linux on them:
thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
>BIOS logo booru:
biosimage.booru.org

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Other urls found in this thread:

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m.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T440s-Laptop-Motherboard-NM-A052/173488835180?_mwBanner=1&_rdt=1
ebay.com/itm/Replacement-Lenovo-ThinkPad-T430-Palmrest-Touchpad-0B38940-0B41184-USA-shipping/192620821389?epid=3012163192&hash=item2cd9187b8d:g:nHgAAOSw4V9a87fJ&LH_BIN=1
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ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Lenovo-ThinkPad-T430-Bottom-Base-Chassis-Assembly-P-N-0B41070/253245724670?hash=item3af69f17fe:g:PWgAAOSwvTpaAJ2s&LH_BIN=1
ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Lenovo-Thinkpad-T440s-14-Laptop-Bottom-Case-Base-Cover-AM0SB000800-M182/123275626453?epid=1140121234&hash=item1cb3ccc7d5:g:mOkAAOSwLg5bWx1u&LH_BIN=1
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Now I've got to look at that faggots face for the next 2 days.

Avatarfagging is against the rules so you know what to do

Keep the discussion /thinkpad/ related

please

and

thank you

I wanna see another side of him if you know what I mean ;)

I can't get my T540P open. The keyboard is getting stuck on something. What do?

i found a perfectly functioning t520 w/i5 and 4gb ram but no hdd for 98 bucks. I sent an offer for 85. How did I do?

That's good

I posted this in the last thread a bit late but I'll throw it here as well:
I want to buy a W500 to libreboot. Is there anything I need to know when looking for one regarding incompatibilities? There's no explicit guide for a W500 on the libreboot website and people in the IRC aren't being of much help. I want to buy a new computer for school that isn't 32 bit (my current T60.)
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I wouldn't say that if you would stop shitting all over the capabilities of older thinkpads with that pretentious tone of yours. Even the OP text says that modern models include the X220/T420. Your cutoff that X240/T440 and above as "modern" is just silly. And I get that X200/T400 are not cutting edge these days, but they are more than capable to get the job done for 99% of what the average person would need.

I just received 6 thinkpads E485 on Ryzen CPU, here's mine running Debian. Any other anons have experience with this specific model ?

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You can follow the guide for a T400 and it will work. As I said in the last thread: There's no issues librebooting W500 as far as I'm aware. If you have any problem I know one of the guys on ebay will do it for you for $45.

T440s replacement parts are literally cheaper than t430 and older now.

Stop shilling these old toasters

They USED to be amazing purchases

No longer.

This excites me

Please delete this.

Posting of the E series in these threads is not allowed.

Please explain :D

>Don't buy anything OTHER THAN IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P Series if you want the Real Business Experience™

ONLY BUSINESS LAPTOPS ALLOWED IN /tpg/

Who cares about replacement parts. I've never had to replace anything on mine. And they are not toasters either, the last gen of the C2D chips run very cool and efficiently.

they still are
kys

What if I am doing business with E series ? Because that's exactly what I am doing.

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>Who cares about replacement parts

Literally all of us, thats why we are all here.

I'm not saying "go sell your t410"

Just stop recommending people purchase them, they are no longer the best purchases.

Thats referring to the quality of the device.

The E series uses inferior internal hardware.

Inferior ram, ssd, motherboard, cooling.

I wont have this argument /again/

Read the OP, posting E series isn't welcome here.

I never even recommended people purchase them unless they are into the privacy/libreboot experience. But I will say for those who are interested in these models, that their abilities are perfectly capable for everyday computing, including video streaming.

Alright /tpg/ I don't know much about Thinkpads but I'm hoping to get a used laptop below one hundred bucks. Not looking for anything powerful, just enough to be good at normal usage.

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autism goes through the fucking roof today.

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I already now all of that, not everyone needs top notch hardware. These are cheap and more than enough for my users.

So I won't find any business owner / dev running this model on this general ?

X220 or T420 is a good place to start. Both can be found for under $100 if you can snag a good deal.

Why not wait 7-14 days for your next paycheck and get a t440s?

I JUST WANT A CHEAP GOOD THINKPAD
YOU TOLD ME THESE ARE OLD AND CHEAP

X200 $150 EVERYWHERE
T60 OLD AND BUSTED NO BATTERY $100 EVERYWHERE

YOU TOLD ME THESE WOULD BE CHEAP

No because E series aren't allowed.

Please stop.

>not everyone needs top notch hardware

Well this is a thread for that....sooo

What you're looking for is a t440s or t440p

Both can be found in pristine condition for around $200-$240

We used to be able to get good second handed laptops for around $150, but, inflation.

Have a nice reddit circlejerk then !

its alright user
i appreciate you

what a snowflake

Wowsers. I had acquired a t420 for around $80. I had to upgrade it somewhat but even then it was under 150$, I would wager.

idab710420

>today
Yet I do concur that tranny-hating OP seems to have been chugging vaccine by the gallon

Embrace her

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>her
*it

Yes her she's Jow Forums's mascot.

*it
and
it isn't a mascot of anything

Yes she is.

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She looks better than most gentoomen.

She's very cute.

SO STOP

S T O P

POSTING THAT THESE ARE -CHEAP- LAPTOPS
THEY ARE NOT
>ram
NOT CHEAP
>battery
NOT CHEAP
>covers for the inevitable shitty broken mess of a laptop that IS cheap
NOT CHEAP

"""""""""CHEAP""""""""" WILL BE A BROKEN, SHITTY FLOOD AMD AIDS INFESTED THINKPAD THAT NEEDS A NEW MOTHER BOARD, RAM UPGRADE, BATTERY, AC ADAPTER, ALL ADDS UP TO $250 OR SOME CRAZY NUMBER

A PAWN SHOP HAS A T440P 8GB FOR $180 TELL ME WHY I SHOULDN'T GET THIS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE EVERYTIME I LOSE AN EBAY AUCTION I DIE INSIDE

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Read the title of this thread

Fuck us for having likes/dislikes?

Well that shit disgusts us and its something we dislike.

So please stop being a shit human and posting it here.

You can find a t440s with everything in pristine condition for $240

What are you getting at?

>battery not cheap

I just got 2 brand new batteries for my t440s for only $24.99 each, 2 day shipping. Genuine lenovo.

Her and you leave her alone you incel.

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> O N L Y $25 EACH
HERE IS THE RUNDOWN FOR THESE """"""""""""CHEAP""""""""""" LAPTOPS

>BATTERY
$25
>RAM
DDR3 IS $25 / 4GB
>SSD
240GB / $50
>AC ADAPTER
90W $14

>KEYBOARD
$25
>PALMREST
$15
>BEZEL
$11
>TOP LID
$30
>BOTTOM COVER
$20
THESE ARE $150+++++++++ LAPTOPS WITH $150++++++++++++ OF UPGRADES/PARTS NEEDED
DON'T GET ME STARTED ON THE FUCKING CPUS TO UPGRADE ON THESE
>CPU
$100++++++++++++++
I'M TIRED OF THIS SHIT
YOU MEMED ON ME YOU MOTHERFUCKERS

DONT FALL FOR THE MEME
THIS GENERAL IS JUST PEOPLE DESPERATE TO SELL OFF THEIR GARAGE WAREHOUSE

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What?

You can get them in perfect condition, maxed out specs for under $300...

Ignore the sperg
ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-X230-Laptop-Core-i5-2-6Ghz-4GB-500GB-Webcam-HD-Win-10-Pro-12-5/401223126451?hash=item5d6ac30db3:g:BrQAAOSwYLZbZL64&LH_BIN=1#viTabs_0
Planning on getting this right now, this a good buy?

If you can't afford maxed out specs, get a basic specc'd t440s in mint condition for $200

If you want IPS FHD, 12gb ram, i7 it'll be closer to $300

>scuffs
>4gb ram
>HDD

Nope, you can get a t440s with SSD, 8gb ram, and a 120gb ssd for $200 in pristine condition.

Kind of reminds me of the weird girl at the back of my programming class.

If I put a simcard into the slot on my p51, how do I actually use data? I know its possible. I guess this is effectively a windows 10 question as all the hardware is already a given.

The battery on my T420 only holds like 40% charge. Is aliexpress my best option for a new battery?

Run the windows client for whichever network you're using...

It creates a virtual network connection.

how long does the battery last in your thinkpad, anons?

Ebay or Amazon before ali

you can have a sim slot but not a WWAN card
but after that you simply open the wifi menu thing and connect to Cellular, then depending on your carrier/data plan you might have to sign in and junk or it'll just give you data and do internet stuff like normal

NO
YOU CAN NOT

SHOW THE E X A C T EBAY LINKS FOR THE UTOPIAN AS OF >2018, NOT CHEAP

YOU WILL HAVE A """""""AS IS"""""""""" THINKPAD, WHICH NEEDS 3 OR MORE OF THE ABOVE MENTIONED UPGRADES,

r u ok

>let alone screen upgrades $100

Its only about $44.99 for the screen, not $100

$300 in 2018 is cheap for a laptop, considering most people pay around $800 for new ones.

I never liked ebay. Im in chicago where I currently see 3 listings for t440s under $200 in brand new condition.

I only use ebay for part

That's a lie but whatever

Plenty of T440s and T440p on ebay for under $220 listed as like new condition. $40 for the screen upgrade = $260

Ram might be $80 so thats $340

Still a low price considering new would be $1400

Provide evidence of my deceit

>unironically recommending *40 series
>unironically recommending "s" T-series

ABSOLUTE FUCKING
I D I O T

>4gb
FUCKING USELESS, 8GB KIT +$50 16GB KIT +$100
>HDD
FUCKING USELESS, 240GB SSD +$50
>COSMETICS
$15+++++++++++

AT LEAST $75 ADDED RIGHT OFF THE BAT, OH WAIT YOU WANTED A *30 SERIES????? $150 MINIMUM, THAT'S $225 FOR NOT MAXED OUT, NOT FHS SCREEN, NOT ANYTHING ELSE
>not even a bid, literally listed as $150 buy only
I'VE DONE MY RESEARCH LONGER THAN YOU, MORON

Yes, the ONLY way I have found ANY of these laptops to be considered "cheap" is local listings or auction lots
But you might as well play the lottery, those are circumstantial NOT market prices, which the OP suggests. Finally, someone who lives in the real world

T430 motherboard:
m.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T430-Motherboard-04W6625-Intel-No-CPU-Included/173435118917?epid=1840609995&_mwBanner=1&_rdt=1
m.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-i5-3320M-Dual-Core-SR0MX-2-60GHz-CPU-Processor-Socket/173491737091?_mwBanner=1&_rdt=1
45 dollars

T440s motherboard
m.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T440s-Laptop-Motherboard-NM-A052/173488835180?_mwBanner=1&_rdt=1
75 dollars

T430 palm rest
ebay.com/itm/Replacement-Lenovo-ThinkPad-T430-Palmrest-Touchpad-0B38940-0B41184-USA-shipping/192620821389?epid=3012163192&hash=item2cd9187b8d:g:nHgAAOSw4V9a87fJ&LH_BIN=1
12 dollars

T440s palmrest
m.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T440s-14-Genuine-Palmrest-w-Touchpad-Speakers-AM0SB000A00/113187666744?epid=1729354418&_mwBanner=1&_rdt=1
17 dollars

>Finally, someone who lives in the real world

Same guy you've been talking to.

Ebay has became a shithole now. 30% tax for "refurbished" models is all you'll find.

rewind 18 months ago and we didn't have this problem.

Use craigslist or letgo, you wont be buying directly from the seller on ebay.

excellent work user, the reddit spacing shill needs to stfu

T430 is motherboard only

That t440s listing comes with a fresh cpu as well

The t430 palmrest isnt genuine lenovo

The t440s listing is

These are garbage expamples

T440s > t430

Honestly ever since I saw him over at reddit I don't like being rude to him. Since they literally singled me and him out as "those fags that hangout at Jow Forums"
Bonus points if you can guess who I am

I used to browse reddit back in the day but it started giving me cancer around 2014 so I probably wouldn't be able to guess.

>I dont like being rude to him

Thank you. I appreciate the kind words :D

>rewind 18 months ago
Who started this cancer?
Who ruined this for everyone who didn't buy any thinkpad before a year ago??????

We need to hang them

Jow ForumsThinkpad

The youtube tech channels that start shilling used thinkpads

Threads like this

>hey user I need a new laptop for photoshop, a friend gave me this to try, if it's good he's asking €400
>mfw sub fHD, no SSD, no dedicated GPU, shitty keyboard
>decide to fall for the Thinkpad meme and suggest looking for a used W520/530 on ebay, worst case scenario I'm not the one getting a shitty product
>few weeks later go check it out
>mfw €350
>mfw it looks and feels great, keyboard layout is great
>mfw it has fHD screen, i7, quadro K1000, SSD, secondary 500GB drive

Fuck, now I want a Thinkpad too. Considering I don't have a laptop, and I'll have to work with CFD in the following months, it could make for a seriously useful purchase.

You guys were right all along, goddamn you!

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got my x230 with a dock. everything is good except it has windows 8. holy FUCK. i maintain that windows 8 is the worst windows to ever be made. holy fuck either going to install 7 or fedora tomorrow. doubt there is software for keyboard/thinklight so probably 7.

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>T430 is motherboard only
Which is why included a listing for a cpu as well
>The t430 palmrest isnt genuine lenovo
Both are chink plastic with zero functionality. I felt bad mentioning the 5 dollars difference
>These are garbage expamples
I wanted to show screen but that would've been a real garbage example
So here
T430 bottom chassis
ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Lenovo-ThinkPad-T430-Bottom-Base-Chassis-Assembly-P-N-0B41070/253245724670?hash=item3af69f17fe:g:PWgAAOSwvTpaAJ2s&LH_BIN=1
12 dollars

T440s bottom chassis
ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Lenovo-Thinkpad-T440s-14-Laptop-Bottom-Case-Base-Cover-AM0SB000800-M182/123275626453?epid=1140121234&hash=item1cb3ccc7d5:g:mOkAAOSwLg5bWx1u&LH_BIN=1
25 dollars

Dude I used to be mean to you when you first started namefagging but ever since I got a job and had to hangout at reddit since Jow Forums was banned I've hated reddit so fucking much like, no matter how much you post pics of yourself as the OP or talk about the T440s you can never be as annoying as those fucks

I feel like it just got worse and worse to degree where unless you're making shitty puns it's all downvotes and getting called an asshole. I wouldn't go there if I had anywhere else to go

do windows 10 instead

it's better than windows 8
has it been uncucked yet?

I put the sim card in the slot, but I cannot see any cellular network availinle, or really any difference when it is in or it isn't.

How's the performance of those old i7 intels used in ThinkPads? Are they good for modern use? I'm thinking about buying my first thinkpad

i don't know what you mean by that but I use the Enterprise version on my x230 and all the lenovo stuff werks fine and the windows stuff doesn't bother me ever because I turned it off or uninstalled the bothersome things

do u have a WWAN card? it's different from a WLAN card

Just because you have the slot, doesn't mean you actually have the device.

Check your device manager.

Go with fedora, it's by far the better option

oops this
>i don't know what you mean by that but I use the Enterprise version on my x230 and all the lenovo stuff werks fine and the windows stuff doesn't bother me ever because I turned it off or uninstalled the bothersome things

was meant for

We like to go by the rule: T440 or newer

No "We" don't.

Get a T420 or X220, they're amazing and super cheap.

They're mostly dual cores and not worth it. Unless you're going for a roided T5** or a W series
By this he means either older than the 40 series or newer than the 70 series
Anything in between is not worth caring about

I wouldn't buy a i7 T420 or X220 2bh
Only buy i5s and upgrade them to quad core i7s

brainlet here:
i have an old thinkpad, but the bios appears to be somehow bugged, because i can't access it anymore no matter how much i spam F1 key (it worked before).
how can i reset the bios?
i tried disconnecting the CMOS battery for 15mins, but that didn't seem to work.

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try using the blue 'lenovo vantage' key, or the delete key

You got windows installed?

i tried every key possible, but it just keeps rebooting itself instead going bios.
i was able to boot into usb drive with MBR arch linux tho
not anymore.

this thing started happening after i selected "Legacy boot only" or whatever in BIOS.
now i can't go back to switch boot settings.

ltsb

Is it possible without the nagware?

Anybody else upset that the OP image was deleted?

The picture was simply somebody holding a thinkpad.

Mods on their periods today?