/hsg/ - Home server general

I would go with the 10tb's myself if you are running out of space, Maybe even think about 12tb ones, they aren't that much more and lots of models to choose from. not sure setting the block size to 1mb will really do anything for you though.

Personal cloud.
I've got a server running and I grabbed a used lightweight thinkpad, and now I basically VPN in as a thin client to access my crap.
I need to think of a solution to allowing HTTP traffic outside of the VPN since that's not needed all the time, and interferes with file I/O inside the network.

1 MiB block size would only help with reducing wasted space in an 8-disk RAIDZ2 setup.

I did think of 12 TiB disks but the price premium is high compared to 10 TiB (in the UK at least). Just dunno whether to get 6 or 8.

aah, equality at it's finest.

I'm quite new on this.
I was sure I should use SLOG (which is for ZIL).
Also, I don't have for now link aggregation so 125MB/s would be theoretical max.

How are you working out that the 1mb block sizes are better, doesn't ZFS compress the data anyway?

What's the best extremely lightweight alternative of OwnCloud you can run on OpenWRT?
I would like to setup a storage for outside people so I don't have to let them inside my full OwnCloud installation. I've thought about FTP but that requires people to setup 3rd party software.
Any ideas?

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new video from based naomi, mom of /hsg/

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>based
not at all
>mom of /hsg/
nope

Actually FTP is supported by pretty much all desktop OS' ? Even cifs is.

But syncthing perhaps. Yes, it uses 3rd party software but a docker type sync works best for a lot of people.

1. N40L w/16GB EEC ram. Has 6TB x 5 WD Reds. Runs Freenas. (Warm Backup w/everything)
2.N40L w/4GB EEC ram. Has 2TB x 5. Runs Freenas (Cold Archive Backup, core data only)
3. Zyzel Nas w/ 4TB x 4 Raid 5 (Cold Backup w/everything
4. Server 2012 R2 w/8GB and 11TB ReFS volume (Primary Server). Roles: Media/FTP/File Server (s)
5. 3TB External Drive - Server and Client Computer System Restore images,Freenas Config backup files.

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Fuck off

This your home setup?

Anyone here run/tried running a home server with the OS running purely off a USB flash drive?
Also is it true Moot used to run Jow Forums that way?
What would be a good OS to try this with? Debian?

>Anyone here run/tried running a home server with the OS running purely off a USB flash drive?
Yes, I'm doing that on a Fedora box in a WOL on-off operation that takes backups.

Linux doesn't care, it's all a block device to it.

> What would be a good OS to try this with? Debian?
Virtually any Linux, even though I assume some might have a crappy installer that filters for SATA or IDE drives and makes picking a USB drive tricky you could still just install to a VM and then put that appropriately on an USB. Or hack the installer or such.

Others will let you pick the USB or paths where the USB partitions will be mounted with the option to not format them, then it's easy.

Yes but it doesn't attempt to compress incompressible data, which the vast majority would be (videos).

current storage

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most servers and OS's already run off USB drives, SDcards or satadoms. Most OS's will just read the data on boot and have minimal writing back to the drive.

I think wangblows even supports it now but has a higher write endurance capacity requirement as it still writes a bit of data back to the DOM so wears it out

Moot used to run 4chin of mac minis

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Why? I have my OS on an SSD and also 2 VMs that run off that SSD. Can't really do that with a USB flash drive.

An M.2 one would avoid using a SATA port too.

What's a good torrent client for Linux with a good web interface that won't choke with a few torrents?

rtorrent is quite popular for seedboxes

Fuck that image depresses me. Could be me one day :(

Will code for food.

t. burger

Why what? Why use flash as a boot drive?

So you don't need to waste a port for it. that ssd could be another storage drive, that m.2 ssd could be a cache. That's why

You may not have a need for it for your 5 drive array, but in most SMB/enterprises, rackspace, performance and ports are at a premium.

breh, you use NVMe for boot drive because you want a snappy OS. a flash drive for OS is fucking retarded for anything other than a portable linux boot.

breh, this isn't /pcbg/, you're in a home 'SERVER' general.

90% of servers boot from flash. that's why they have internal USB ports/SD card readers/independent sata ports. Nobody's saying you should run your gaymes and wangblows 10 on a usb drive.

this is 'HOME server general', nigger. your made up statistics dont mean shit.

>a flash drive for OS is fucking retarded for anything other than a portable linux boot.
No, young inexperienced one. It's actually no problem to run Linux off a random cheapo USB stick.

You don't even have to make sure it's a good one. It'll work okay either way.

i said if you want a snappy OS, you obviously dont if you're ok running off a thumb drive

And I said it's no problem.

Yes, your server is going to start up, start programs and read configs and all that in a snappy fashion.

Don't bring your Wangblows experience into hosting things on Linux, it doesn't transfer.

Isn't this that girl that had beef with Vice?

Jeez, chill you dudes. I'm the user who asked about running Linux on flash, I asked because I'm trying to set it up on a broken-screen laptop ""server"" which I plan to use to develop on. It currently has a 30GB 1.8" HDD which cost much more than a typical 2.5" would have when I bought it and if it craps out at some point I want to try switching to flash only. I only need about 32GB or even 16GB. Debian doesn't take more than 1GB for a base install, the rest would be to store a database etc.

For reasons I can't explain, my router and my server are in two separate locations, and running a wire would be a pain in trying to make the job look "clean".
What's the best route here? Mesh or powerline?

can anyone think of a way to stream background/system PC audio to an iOS device over 3G/4G? I have a program that has audio alerts that I would like to get on my phone when I'm AFK. I have it figured out through Soundwire and an android tracfone I have lying around that works but would prefer to carry only one phone.

reminder that the hsg discord is shit and its just mentally ill traps larping as sysadmin

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Maybe a DLNA or icecast/shoutcast type stream?

While the typical OS and stuff is no real problem, a much used database may actually be one of the somewhat problematic things to put on USB. Even more so if it's using an also otherwise busy USB2 controller.

But you can simply try it.

Whichever works better. Powerline actually can be worse or better than WLAN depending on the situation.

Since it's cheaper to try, probably just get a 300-1600Mbit WLAN hardware and if necessary, a repeater [anything from a $7 Xiaomi stick to a powerful AP acting as repeater]..

Protip: Still keep a cable ready near the server, you might hit the situation where it not looking clean is less important than full speed GBE data access. You can use a flat cable to make it a bit smaller and more likely to fit through closed doors, at least wood-framed ones.

I haven't actually played with modern MacOS or Win10 yet. You can finally just dial in the FTP credentials into the file manager and it lets you browse it? Or you still need a FileZilla?
The idea was that I could provide my customers with just an IP-name-password and they would be able to send me big files without me having to give them access to the main server...

Where do I find passive SATA expanders, everything touts itself as having state of the art drivers, data protection capabilities and whatever else the fuck they want to hype up. I just want more ports, and I want my server to have direct access to the drives instead of a man in the middle board.

But it's also the discord that keeps these threads alive..

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> You can finally just dial in the FTP credentials into the file manager and it lets you browse it?
Explorer has been able to do this for ages.

Apple products frequently surprise me with what kind of standard shit they can't do, but FTP is maybe not one of these. I don't know.

> The idea was that I could provide my customers with just an IP-name-password and they would be able to send me big files without me having to give them access to the main server...
Give out an email address and make / rent a http site where they can upload files [ideally prevent overwrites and postfix or prefix UNIX timestamp to file names]. That's the thing customers would expect most.

But FTP should also work, I guess.

use transmission like every other decent human being

>passive SATA expanders
You mean port multipliers for controllers that hopefully support FIS? Aliexpress.

If you don't have FIS or don't know, buy [more/bigger] PCI controller cards instead.

Might also be done on Ali, the 2-4 port controllers in particular are dirt cheap.

I just use it so I can access certain things on all my computers, but only store them in one place + for backups (which obviously means you need at least 2 disks).

>DLNA
is there a somewhat simple DLNA solution where I don't have to be on the same network, such as with soundwire where I open a port and point the app to my IP? I saw icecast/shoutcast in my search but couldnt be arsed to look through the docs but I guess if it can't be helped

>is there a somewhat simple DLNA solution where I don't have to be on the same network
You can do all of the above over the internet, just make the respective ports and services internet accessible the usual way [for your network - in most cases that means port forwarding on your router].

Or you can virtually hook yourself into your home LAN over wireguard or VPN. It's easy to secure this method quite well and then it works for just about everything, so it's quite appealing.

Although I guess the easiest option is to pay plex or emby for a subscription - I think most of the service you pay for is actually that you get devices linked by account in various ways.

what can you do with a homeserver besides NAS?
I had enough spare parts from old builds to make a decent second computer
not sure what I should really do with it but I had some old hard drives to put in it

Can I run a webserver and email server on a raspberry pi 3? What about security? Do I need a cluster of 4 PIs to have enough power for that?

Even a single rpi1 would be enough let alone a rpi3, let alone a cluster of 4

>what can you do with a homeserver besides NAS?
Everything computers can do.

Host your own email server. Encode data from surveillance cameras. Search through your petabytes of anime or porn images [/ derived perceptual hashes and what not] for the waifu picture you just handed it. Control a flock of quadcopters. Control home automation. Host video game servers. Be part of a 3D render farm. Compile packages for your fork of CloverOS. Run git and continuous integration for software you develop. Host your own *booru. Host your own enterprise management system / logistics inventory system. Donate processing power to BOINC / GIMPS...

I currently got a raspberry pi 2 b and this shit got no power

You need just one. Although I'd prefer an ODroid XU4Q or something in case you find another use for it like as a media / backup / ... server, too.

Security is going to be the normal Linux / BSD distro's security; unless you mess it up it's surely okay enough.

I ended up using VLC and streaming via http to the VLC app on my phone as this does exactly what I need it to do but looking into the DLNA angle helped me find this, thanks.

Great that you found a solution. No problem.

if the server is available via internet with portforwarding are there really no risks associated?

Does the pi need to be in it's own network, so my home network is safe?

Why is rtorrent prefered over transmission?

it isnt

Both ESXi (vsphere) and Server 2016 nano run from flash.

Why on earth would you dedicate spindles / flash storage to your hypervisor?

This guy(op pic) is a ADMIN mod on Jow Forums

Yeah it is. Your data is only as safe as you make it. Everything critical is ran from a UPS, even the ISP Modem/Router and 8 port Switch

Can you imagine the horror of re-ripping/re-downloading all 3.9TB of media for example if a drive or server just went tits up unexpectedly?. To say nothing of the rest of the data. The time it'd take to do it V.S restoring from backup.

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Then here's the really scary bit: If this was on a regular NTFS Raid volume, well, after so many years silent data errors creep in. So your backups are worthless. That once pristine video rip of Thor (2011) is now contaminated with "video errors" that show up on playback. Just makes you sick don't it?

>i dont understand how backup works
>i dont understand how bit rot works
stay retarded

>Apple products frequently surprise me with what kind of standard shit they can't do, but FTP is maybe not one of these
stay retarded, pic related

No, i'm what keeps these threads alive

you're a retard too

rackspace and ports arent at a premium you tard, even at a colo rackspace will be cheapest part of your bill.

that ethot clicking next a lot has nothing to do with servers

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>if the server is available via internet with portforwarding are there really no risks associated?
You can configure what is accessible from where, use encrypted connections and passwords, and many more things.

Also, just don't forward the things that don't need to be forwarded?

> Does the pi need to be in it's own network, so my home network is safe?
Not really, no? I'm going to guess you have far less secure Windows / Android / IOS / ... machines connected to the port forwarded home network anyhow.

>stay retarded, pic related
Yea, that's what I said. A lot of standard shit doesn't work on Apple's expensive trash software, but FTP maybe is not one of the standard things that aren't supported.

what version of freenas is this?

Define premium

Do you want to needlessly buy a 2u over a 1u? throwing money away for no good reason.

The point stands, using a drive for boot media is retarded for 90% of use cases. Stop being awkward for the sake of being awkward, faggot.

>SATADOMs arent drives
lol no

also see SSDs with power loss protection

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Shit loads of huge companies boot from flash drives are you retarded?

>fun pc builidng simulator game
>but still no fun network simulator game
I would unirronically buy 3D version of packet tracer for 20 bucks desu

When the fuck did I say that? I meant wasting a 2.5/3.5" drive bays Curb your autism, fucking hell.

>why would anyone want power loss protection on a SSD
And if you're going to go full autismo with a SD card/USB memory key, you might as well just netboot it with PXE or iSCSI

I really really like this image

>AM1 5350, 8Gb RAM
>running Ubuntu server
>kimchi for virtual machines
>Plex for TV and media
>Openvpn
>Nginx for web pages
>Git

Babies first homelab, how am I doing?

And you opened how many threads the past month?

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id rather have those agps just stop circlejerking (literally) in the discord and let the threads thrive here
theres nothing good about that place seriously

Then why are you here?

because i wanna discuss homeserver stuff and read about homeserver stuff and not read about users buying their newest pair of panties and how they sucked some guy off last weekend
like they can go to a lgbt discord for that but they post in a tech related discord and its always linked back here, makes the generals look bad

these generals are bad. There is a handful of people with servers and the rest are just retards who think their shitbox with less power than a phone is a server.

yeah true but being associated with sissy fucks doesnt help them either
going too off topic though